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I wouldn't touch Simmons with a Ten Foot Pole ... JMO

We are ready to win now why pick a player for red shirt in the 2nd rd. when we can get a S/LB that can contribute now, and there is no guarantee he will ever be the same from his injury … JMO

The Bucs are shopping McCoy and will probably end up releasing him. This is not some sort of incredible trade like OBJ.

You are probably right, and I would never argue with Dorsey, and if we take him I will be rooting for his recovery but nothing is promised from injured players, even though today's medicine is better ... JMO

j/c,

I have a hard time with believing that so many teams will pass on Simmonds twice before we Draft @49.

With that said ... It would be hard to pass on him and his value @49, save for a prospect that we really coveted to be available also.

Buy a bargain when you find a bargain. Good advice from dad. We have done enough already to take him later. If you want to take a flier, then do it with high skills and potential.

Would Dorsey be teased to trade up for him he fans say halfway to our pick?

Going up to 32 for the 5th year option would probably be a consideration.

Dorsey seems to prefer DTs with length and ability to affect the passer (I'm thinking Chris Jones) and Simmons does fit that profile pretty well.

Grimm, I like that idea but I might try the Rams at 31 and put Duke in that deal as part of the compensation that way we don't have to trade a higher pick. Gurley is iffy right now so they might be a trade target.

That would take our 2nd round pick, 4th round pick, Duke AND likely a 3rd next year. Even then, I doubt a team would go for it.


And I don't see trading away both our day two picks this year to get into the 1st round.

I don't know if I'd make that deal, but Dorsey and the Rams might consider it.

Dorsey does seem enamored with Simmons. (It is silly season, though)

McVay being able to scheme up plays for Duke also seems like it could be a fit.

The Rams also seem to need depth possibly more than Frontline starters. Though possibly they could look at G, NT, or Safety in the 1st, but value might be better in the 2nd and later at those spots. With their cap situation being what it is, more players on (later) rookie deals could be enticing.

j/c:

I am not making a strong pitch here, but I would rather not trade to get back into the first round. We've already made several large splashes in free agency and trades. Our roster looks pretty good right now.

I wouldn't mind trading up to get a guy we like in rounds 2, 3, or 4. I think you can find good value in those rounds, especially at some of the positions of need on our team.

We have 3 5th round picks and 8 overall. We also have Duke. I wouldn't mind packaging some of the later picks and perhaps Duke to get move up to the top of the round in either the second, third, or even fourth.

Btw------there have been some excellent players drafted in the second round over the years. We really could get a great value here.

I agree with you and I'll go one step further as a big reason I believe that he won't. When he was asked about trading the #17 pick he said he believed there were less than 15 players with first round grades in the 2019 draft.

https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/20/cleveland-browns-2019-nfl-draft-prospect-grades/

So for the life of me I couldn't imagine him giving up a wealth of resources to move up in the first round for a player he believes isn't even worth a first round selection.

The Lions @43 might be interested in trading down and adding picks.

GB has two first round picks and has the 44th selection.

Just a couple of possibilities if he is on the board.

I think we're just spit-ball'n hypotheticals for amusement. Then again we got arguably the best WR in the league for rather modest compensation.

Also, I don't think the statements Dorsey made about the number of actual round-1 graded players would apply to Simmons. The consensus is that he was a top 10 talent before the injury. I'm sure we will receive an exhaustive medical evaluation on the knee. The Browns will know as much as possible if they decide to pursue him.

...I dunno. He doesn't look like the most fluid/balanced mover in space. My first thought was kind of "Oh, I'm not really surprised he blew out his knee doing that." Not in a mean way, just in a sense of the forces at play.

He wouldn't be asked to do most of that during games, but that tape did nothing to make me want to take him more.

lol, I wouldn't want to be that receiver making a catch over the middle.

He looked good in the video there. I just think it didn't really change how good he looks on game film or is able to play football.

The silliness of the combine, kind of bit him, though. Having a 300+ pounder constantly change directions isn't ideal with kinesiology and the law of inertia in mind.

Maybe it will get him to fall to a place we can grab him though, and all work out in the end.

If we can still convince Tre Boston to come here, I'd be on board with exploring the possibility thoroughly. Our goal line sets and 5-2 options next year (when he's healthy) would be stacked.

Then grab some developmental CBs and OL with the few picks that are left.