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Like you know what Mueller looked at and didn't look at... Did Barr tell you that or Fox?

Because I'm not convinced that no american colluded with Russia... That's why..


But again with the excuses and distractions..

I can tell you with 100% clarity, that a Special Counsel would who spent 30 million dollars with a team of liberals - looked at it.

Do you think the IRS never looked at them either?

I am the one making excuses?! Bro, your the one saying he colluded when the a damn special counsel said he didn't. Where are your facts homie? I have 30 million dollars worth of facts that said "no American colluded with Russia". You have " well I don't believe it!"

Re: tax returns


I think a fair compromise would be, lets see his taxes one year prior to his campaign run until this year. I think that is perfectly reasonable. I would have to imagine Mueller has seen them already.

There is no reason to release all of them other than to appease dems blood lust. Just the fact that we are yet again BACK on taxes tells you it isn't about taxes at all, it's trying to impeach Trump by any means necessary.


If they set this precedent though, where you are required to show your taxes, you might as well just make it a prerequisite because they are going to be asked for from every President going forward.

didn't find Collusion.

I'm not convinced that the Mueller team saw his taxes.. Given how hard it's going to be for the House to get them (and they have the authority), I have some concern that Mueller never saw his taxes.

Again, what's he hiding

Again, why compromise, he said he's innocent, no need to compromise, just show the damn taxes... no reason not to if he's innocent... NONE.. NO REASON NOT TO

You need to get some fresh air, Trump is living in your head rent free. From Trumps standpoint there are probably dozens of reasons not to. Which I laid out and then you went on to say he has no reason not to.......other than he doesn't want to and isn't required to....it's not complicated.

Just a question, How many of those have testified in front of congress?

Clinton, Comey, McCabe, Page, Strozk... Those I know for sure.

how many charges have been brought and proven?

NONE.

Read that part, extremely slowly - left to right. use a dictionary for the bigger words.

Re: tax returns


I think a fair compromise would be, lets see his taxes one year prior to his campaign run until this year. I think that is perfectly reasonable. I would have to imagine Mueller has seen them already.

There is no reason to release all of them other than to appease dems blood lust. Just the fact that we are yet again BACK on taxes tells you it isn't about taxes at all, it's trying to impeach Trump by any means necessary.


If they set this precedent though, where you are required to show your taxes, you might as well just make it a prerequisite because they are going to be asked for from every President going forward.

Just because YOU and Damon think he's hiding something doesn't make it so.

Or maybe it's time we hold Trump to the same standard as other presidents? Why should he suddenly be the exception to the rule?

Because it's not a rule, it's more of a tradition..... and there is no way we can "hold Trump to the same standard" because "the standard" has always been voluntary.

You can't allow something to be optional and then get mad when somebody chooses the option you don't like. If they want to make it a rule/law, have at it. If they are going to do that, I'd make it applicable to congressional and senate elections as well.. let's see which members of congress and the senate will vote to make showing their own taxes a matter of law...

Because it's not a rule, it's more of a tradition..... and there is no way we can "hold Trump to the same standard" because "the standard" has always been voluntary.

You can't allow something to be optional and then get mad when somebody chooses the option you don't like. If they want to make it a rule/law, have at it. If they are going to do that, I'd make it applicable to congressional and senate elections as well.. let's see which members of congress and the senate will vote to make showing their own taxes a matter of law...

So, HOW IN THE HELL DID YOU COME UP WITH "NO COLLUSION" AND KNOW IT'S FACT?

Yeah, it's been the same way with presidents for decades. Nobody though they even needed such a law.... until now. Now? We have a president that if he doesn't have anything to hide, certainly makes it look like he does.

It's funny, I thought most every American believed in transparency from our elected officials. My how times have changed under Trump.

Some things just aren’t cool. One of those, according to our no-drama president, is ignorance.

“It’s not cool to not know what you’re talking about,” President Obama said during his recent Rutgers University commencement address. It was a swipe clearly intended for he-who-didn’t-need-to-be-named: Donald Trump, the likely Republican nominee for president.

Okay, no argument there.

But the Obama administration itself has been part of a different know-nothing problem. It has kept the news media — and therefore the public — in the dark far too much over the past 7 1/2 years.

After early promises to be the most transparent administration in history, this has been one of the most secretive. And in certain ways, one of the most elusive. It’s also been one of the most punitive toward whistleblowers and leakers who want to bring light to wrongdoing they have observed from inside powerful institutions.

Maybe we should talk about the subject at hand and move on from there? Obama did release his tax returns. So it appears Trump isn't even meeting Obama standards as of yet. Once he does, we'll move on.

You know if one of your own children used this same style of debate with you, you would accuse them of rationalizing, right?

Yes, expecting a standard be upheld rather than making excuses why someone should be exempt from that standard is exactly what this is about.

We've never had a business man step straight out of the private sector into the presidency, the baseline isn't the same.

So this is just about taxes?

meeting the minimum standard everyone

I think you missed the definition of standard.

An idea or thing used as a measure, norm, or model in comparative evaluations.

But thanks for playing!

I know I couldn't hold a discussion with you and willit and expect you both to have the same opinion lock step in line with each other on most given topics. You may lean in the same political direction to a degree but outside of that the difference is day and night.

So how will taxes show obstruction?

Taxes **COULD** show a link that could hint towards collusion (a revenue stream of some sort), but in no way could taxes show obstruction, especially since the tax forms were before the investigation even started.