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Trump has a whole lot of "acting" secretaries.

https://news.yahoo.com/kirstjen-nielsen-resigns-233736783.html

As the Trump administration wrestles with what it calls a “crisis” of immigration from Central America, Kirstjen Nielsen resigned Sunday as head of the Department of Homeland Security, which includes the agencies charged with enforcing the nation’s border and immigration laws.

President Trump announced the move on Twitter.

“I would like to thank her for her service,” Trump tweeted, adding that current Customs and Border Protection Commissioner, Kevin McAleenan, would step in as acting DHS Secretary.



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Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen will be leaving her position, and I would like to thank her for her service....


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....I am pleased to announce that Kevin McAleenan, the current U.S. Customs and Border Protection Commissioner, will become Acting Secretary for @DHSgov. I have confidence that Kevin will do a great job!

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Nielsen later posted a copy of her resignation to Twitter.



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This afternoon I submitted my resignation to @POTUS and thanked him for the opportunity to serve in his administration.


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Its been an honor of a lifetime to serve with the brave men and women of @DHSgov. I could not be prouder of and more humbled by their service, dedication, and commitment to keep our country safe from all threats and hazards. pic.twitter.com/lIQ5iqGDmF

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Nielsen’s departure comes amid heightened claims from the Trump administration of a crisis at the southwest border. On Friday, Trump abruptly pulled his nomination for the head of U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement, or ICE, stating his desire to go “in a tougher direction.”

President Trump visits a new section of the border wall with Mexico in Calexico, Calif., on Friday. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)
President Trump visits a new section of the border wall with Mexico in Calexico, Calif., on Friday. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)
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During her tumultuous tenure with the Trump Administration, Nielsen, who previously served as chief of staff to former DHS Secretary John Kelly, faced criticism from both current and former DHS officials as well as White House aides and, ultimately, the President.

Nielsen initially followed Kelly to the White House when he took over as chief of staff in September of 2017, but she reportedly clashed with West Wing aides. Despite concerns over her lack of experience, Trump nominated Nielsen in October 2017 to replace Kelly in the cabinet and she was easily confirmed in December. She is the sixth head of Homeland Security since it was established in 2002.

For months, Trump has reportedly expressed dissatisfaction with Nielsen’s performance on the border. Kevin Landy, led ICE’s Office of Detention Policy and Planning under the Obama Administration, told Yahoo News that ongoing clashes between the president and DHS secretary seemed to stem from the fact that “she couldn’t solve what he considers a border crisis by changing the law unilaterally or miraculously generating resources that Congress hasn't funded.”

“The same legal and funding constraints facing DHS now are going to continue to face DHS whoever the new secretary is,” said Landy. “Trump seems to be on the edge of insanity when it comes to the border influx, and he seems incapable of dealing with the reality that there are no easy solutions.”

President Trump greets then-Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen on Friday. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)
President Trump greets then-Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen on Friday. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)
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“In a normal administration, there isn’t a chance in hell she would get nominated for anything above an undersecretary job,” one former national security official who, like Nielsen, served under President George W. Bush, told The New Yorker in March.

In her five years with the Bush administration, Nielsen primarily oversaw the White House’s domestic disaster relief and prevention policy. She was named in two Congressional reports as one of the officials who failed to inform the White House of the severity of the situation in New Orleans following Hurricane Katrina. After the fallout from Katrina in 2008, Nielsen left for the private sector, where she re-branded herself as a cybersecurity expert.

According to the New Yorker, many current and former DHS officials viewed Nielsen as an “opportunist,” seeking to ingratiate herself with the president by adopting the hardline stance on immigration of Kelly and White House staffers like Stephen Miller “who see D.H.S. as a tool to advance their hard-line agenda on immigration.”

Trump has reportedly been frustrated for months by Nielsen’s performance. In one particularly heated exchange at the White House this past May, the New York Times reported that Trump berated her over what he viewed as a lack of progress toward carrying out his pledge to completely close U.S. borders to illegal immigrants.

The Times reported that this humiliation had prompted Nielsen to draft a resignation letter, which a DHS spokesperson denied. Nielsen did not step down, and becamethe public face of the Trump administration’s most controversial policy yet: forcibly separating immigrant parents and children who attempted to enter the U.S. together along the southwest border. Nielsen defended the administration’s actions in the face of widespread outrage, insisting at a White House press briefing that there was actually no such family separation policy — just days before Trump signed an Executive Order abolishing it.


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I honestly don't know the answer to this, but has an administration had more changes in a solitary term than Trump's?

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he might honestly hold the record for most turnover in a single term.


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Man, it's unreal!

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Originally Posted By: Swish
he might honestly hold the record for most turnover in a single term.


Those who have a shred of personal integrity either:

1. Leave because they have personal standards.
2. Get fired because they have personal standards.


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Why do I keep hearing this over and over



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I honestly don't know the answer to this, but has an administration had more changes in a solitary term than Trump's?


No,, I don't believe so.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I honestly don't know the answer to this, but has an administration had more changes in a solitary term than Trump's?


It's also the first time that a NON career politician has held the office since Eisenhower.

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I honestly don't know the answer to this, but has an administration had more changes in a solitary term than Trump's?


It's also the first that a career politician has not held the office since Eisenhower.


I don't understand the significance of that statement.. In the end, he claimed he'd hire only the best...

Apparently that means he would hire

Then fire

Then Hire

Then fire

Then Hire

Then fire

Then Hire

Then fire..

If coming from the private sector means you have HUGE turn over, then I hate to be the one to break to you, that's actually considered a BAD thing...

In the Business world, if you can't attract, hire and retain the best talent, you are a failure as a manager..


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I stated a plain fact and you are doing what, whining about it?

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I stated a plain fact and you are doing what, whining about it?


Your statement of fact seemed to me to be an excuse/explanation for the situation ... that's how it came across.

Seems to me no matter the POTUS background - career politician or captain of industry or spoiled brat born with a silver spoon in his mouth - If you can't attract and keep talented people in key roles in your administration it limits your ability to run the government well. I can't think of a single positive out of the continued public sniping and undermining of your own appointees.

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Here's where people that vote often don't understand business.

There are businesses that run under a corporate structure which have boards that include some checks and balances. They have to answer to shareholders.

Then you have family businesses in which there is one boss who answers to no one. Who is more of a dictator of a company where there are no checks and balances. Where anyone who questions him can be fired on a moments notice.

In the second instance you have a person who has never had to work under constraint. Has never had to answer to others. And we can see the results of how that works when the total structure they have to work under is completely different than anything they've ever experienced before.


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Well they can't seem to protect an entire resort doing business with hundreds of guests so......

I mean even if it was the responsibility of the resort staff to screen people entering.


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maybe he wasn't spending enough tax payer money at trump's resort.


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Probably called Trump out when he cheated at golf.


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true. trump probably wanted him jailed for saying that.


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or when Trump denied having that 3rd cheesburger at lunch wink


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Or broke out laughing when Trump said wind turbines cause cancer.


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yay for turnover?


He thinks he’s creating jobs when he hires the next poor sap.


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This one seems to have Miller written all over it

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/08/politics/trump-family-separation-el-paso-kirstjen-nielsen/index.html

Trump pushed to close El Paso border, told admin officials to resume family separations and agents not to admit migrants

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Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump has been pushing to reinstate broader family separation policies and sought to close the US-Mexico border at El Paso, Texas, as his conflict with Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen reached a boiling point.

Two Thursdays ago, in a meeting at the Oval Office with top officials -- including Nielsen, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, top aides Jared Kushner, Mercedes Schlapp and Dan Scavino, White House counsel Pat Cipollone and more -- the President, according to one attendee, was "ranting and raving, saying border security was his issue."
Senior administration officials say that Trump then ordered Nielsen and Pompeo to shut down the port of El Paso the next day, Friday, March 22, at noon. The plan was that in subsequent days the Trump administration would shut down other ports.
Nielsen told Trump that would be a bad and even dangerous idea, and that the governor of Texas, Republican Greg Abbott, has been very supportive of the President.
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She proposed an alternative plan that would slow down entries at legal ports. She argued that if you close all the ports of entry all you would be doing is ending legal trade and travel, but migrants will just go between ports.
According to two people in the room, the President said: "I don't care."
Trump overseeing 'near-systematic purge' at Department of Homeland Security
Trump overseeing 'near-systematic purge' at Department of Homeland Security
Ultimately, acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney seemed to have been able to talk the President out of closing the port of El Paso. Trump, however, was insistent that his administration begin taking another action -- denying asylum seekers entry. Nielsen tried to explain to the President that the asylum laws allow migrants from Central America to come to the US and gain entry. She talked to the White House counsel to see if there were any exceptions, but he told her that her reading of the law was correct.
Neither the White House nor the Department of Homeland Security responded to official requests for comment.
Told agents not to let migrants in
Last Friday, the President visited Calexico, California, where he said, "We're full, our system's full, our country's full -- can't come in! Our country is full, what can you do? We can't handle any more, our country is full. Can't come in, I'm sorry. It's very simple."
Behind the scenes, two sources told CNN, the President told border agents to not let migrants in. Tell them we don't have the capacity, he said. If judges give you trouble, say, "Sorry, judge, I can't do it. We don't have the room."
After the President left the room, agents sought further advice from their leaders, who told them they were not giving them that direction and if they did what the President said they would take on personal liability. You have to follow the law, they were told.
More widespread family separations policy
Senior administration officials also told CNN that in the last four months or so, the President has been pushing Nielsen to enforce a stricter and more widespread "zero tolerance" immigration policy -- not just the original policy started by former Attorney General Jeff Sessions and undone by the President once it was criticized -- that called for the prosecution of individuals crossing the border illegally between ports of entry, resulting in the separation of parents from children.
According to multiple sources, the President wanted families separated even if they came in at a legal port of entry and were legal asylum seekers. The President wanted families separated even if they were apprehended within the US. He thinks the separations work to deter migrants from coming.
Sources told CNN that Nielsen tried to explain they could not bring the policy back because of court challenges, and White House staffers tried to explain it would be an unmitigated PR disaster.
"He just wants to separate families," said a senior administration official.
DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen's ouster exposes Trump's immigration crisis
DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen's ouster exposes Trump's immigration crisis
Last night, on the second floor of the East Wing of the White House residence -- in a room called the yellow oval -- Nielsen, Mulvaney and the President met. Nielsen tried to present a path forward that was legal and in compliance with US laws but the President said to her, "This isn't working." And Nielsen did not disagree.
"At the end of the day," a senior administration official said, "the President refuses to understand that the Department of Homeland Security is constrained by the laws."

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Breaking the law. Breaking the law. Trump is now actually breaking the law while the GOP sheep fall silent.

We’re so screwed.


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A negative in depth story about the POTUS with quotes from un-named sources ... it'll be dismissed as fake news. A few will come out and side with Trump and not care if Trump pisses all over the law (again).


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Originally Posted By: BpG
I stated a plain fact and you are doing what, whining about it?


Nope, you were stating ANOTHER in a long line of excuses for the idiot in the white house.

Again, if you have that kind of turnover that quickly, the fault is generally not with the employees, it's with leadership.

Your leader is an arse. Oh, that is a true statement of fact by the way


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Exactly Pit.

Trump went from running a multi billion dollar empire literally with nobody to report to, to running a country where he has 300 million bosses.

He's not adjusting well, in fact he's not even trying to adjust at all.

He wants America to bend to his will....


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I stated a plain fact and you are doing what, whining about it?


Nope, you were stating ANOTHER in a long line of excuses for the idiot in the white house.

Again, if you have that kind of turnover that quickly, the fault is generally not with the employees, it's with leadership.

Your leader is an arse. Oh, that is a true statement of fact by the way



Yeah the difference between us is that I don't dispute facts.

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