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Funny,

All these dems calling for transparency of the Mueller report, but hate Assange because of the email leaks and transparency.

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If Assange had leaked only dirt on Trump, they'd cherish each breath he takes.


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Time to buy stock in laundry detergent and toilet paper because an awful lot of people are crapping their pants right about now. He's not going to hold anything back now.


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Isn't he going to be extradited to Sweden to face multiple rape charges?


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I was actually happy when Wikileaks posted the stuff they did. I kind of admired Assange until I found out (or felt it was proved) he was working with the Russians. Honestly liked the concept of wikileaks keeping governments honest.

So not all lefties are calling for his head, but I won't defend him anymore because the Russia connection was pretty shady.

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Isn't he going to be extradited to Sweden to face multiple rape charges?


That was all dropped I thought. Victim recanted.

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Time to buy stock in laundry detergent and toilet paper because an awful lot of people are crapping their pants right about now. He's not going to hold anything back now.


I can't imagine he spent 6 years self exiled in an embassy if he had any aces up his sleeve.

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Gingrich: If You Value the Safety and Security of America, Assange Is a 'Villain'

https://insider.foxnews.com/2019/04/11/n...assange-villain

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Judge Andrew Napolitano: ‘Julian Assange is a hero’

https://www.foxnews.com/world/judge-andrew-napolitano-julian-assange-hero

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Assange’s arrest drew sharp reactions from his supporters and those who oppose him.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/wikileaks-julian-assange-arrest-international-reaction

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I was actually happy when Wikileaks posted the stuff they did. I kind of admired Assange until I found out (or felt it was proved) he was working with the Russians. Honestly liked the concept of wikileaks keeping governments honest.

I can see both sides of that... I'm all for government transparency but for a government to function effectively on a global stage, some things have to remain a secret, they just have to... so having somebody without authorization release information indiscriminately at times could be beneficial, at other times very dangerous...


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Yeah the Assange case is very conflicting. On one hand, he outed government secrets, on the other....he outed war crimes. On one hand he's a journalist exercising his freedom of the press on the other he is disseminating top secret information.

If I had to choose, I'd probably pardon him but I wouldn't feel great about it.

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Since Trump said he referenced WikiLeaks over 100 times I'd say that he may end up leaning towards a pardon.

Until today when Trump said he knows nothing about WikiLeaks and it's not his thing.


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I guess no conversation is immune from your bias. rolleyes

Those with a clue understand that Trump loved Wiki when they were releasing Hillary's email but actually knows little about Wiki.

But to you, that is lie 10,000. rofl

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I think both of what you two just said can be correct. Trump got the information from Wikileaks and used it as a political club as much as he could, but is it that surprising that he didn't actually know anything about them? Trump is a dog with a bone, so the answer is, no it's not surprising he doesn't know much about them.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
I guess no conversation is immune from your bias. rolleyes

Those with a clue understand that Trump loved Wiki when they were releasing Hillary's email but actually knows little about Wiki.

But to you, that is lie 10,000. rofl


So when he talks he has no clue what the hell he's talking about. Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't bring up the issue of a pardon. I simply responded to it concerning the only person who could give one.


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I am going to try and predict what happens here.

Trump pardons Assange there will be universal outrage from lib dems. Trump is a traitor to his nation, in bed with Russia etc. etc.


Trump does not pardon Assange.....suddenly lib dems are holding hands with the Trump admin.


Assange outed the corruption in the democratic party in 2016 and the national media will never allow that to pass. Why? Assange showed that in a one year span he did more exposing of corruption than the entirety of the elite media (on both sides) have exposed in their entire careers. Entire media outlets with dozens of journalists on staff couldn't do what Assange did.


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It’s a bit odd reading trump supporters, who claimed about being all about law and order, now wanting to give a pass to a foreigner for breaking the law.

So it’s bad if minorities and foreigners break the law, but super super cool if white guys do it.

Message sent loud and clear.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
It’s a bit odd reading trump supporters, who claimed about being all about law and order, now wanting to give a pass to a foreigner for breaking the law.

So it’s bad if minorities and foreigners break the law, but super super cool if white guys do it.

Message sent loud and clear.


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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
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It’s a bit odd reading trump supporters, who claimed about being all about law and order, now wanting to give a pass to a foreigner for breaking the law.

So it’s bad if minorities and foreigners break the law, but super super cool if white guys do it.

Message sent loud and clear.


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White man have double standard. Based more on wealth than race.


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Definitely not a reach whatsoever.

All about law and order, until all of a sudden, you aren’t.


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Definitely not a reach whatsoever.

All about law and order, until all of a sudden, you aren’t.
how am I not?

If Assange raped a girl, he should have his sack cut off.

If he didn't and its a frame job by a government to get him (which I think it was/is), and the only thing was exposing government covers ups by massive corruption - he should be charged - which he is.

I think it that the analogy you chose to use of a person who broke the law to provide information to millions of people of a massive coverup of government corruption, and a racist who faked a hate crime, says more about you than the lack of responses on this thread.

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What part of he engaged with an enemy of the United States government to effect the outcome of an American election are you not getting?


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I say lock him up! or not.

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What part of he engaged with an enemy of the United States government to effect the outcome of an American election are you not getting?
ohhh did you get that from the server that was never turned over?

the only ones that engaged to effect the outcome of the election was the DNC when screwed over bern, but I don't see any outrage from you about that. I don't see you asking for Brazille to be arrested....

for someone who says they are bipartisan, you are the biggest partisan on this board.

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Playing dumb again? At least I hope you're playing.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
What part of he engaged with an enemy of the United States government to effect the outcome of an American election are you not getting?


As long as his side does it, it’s perfectly acceptable.


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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
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What part of he engaged with an enemy of the United States government to effect the outcome of an American election are you not getting?
ohhh did you get that from the server that was never turned over?

the only ones that engaged to effect the outcome of the election was the DNC when screwed over bern, but I don't see any outrage from you about that. I don't see you asking for Brazille to be arrested....

for someone who says they are bipartisan, you are the biggest partisan on this board.


Why does the left always turn to attacking the messenger when they have no reply to the facts?
Might make for an interesting study.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
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What part of he engaged with an enemy of the United States government to effect the outcome of an American election are you not getting?


As long as his side does it, it’s perfectly acceptable.
so you denounce the dnc for rigging the election in 16?

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Facts have never been your strong suit.


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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
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What part of he engaged with an enemy of the United States government to effect the outcome of an American election are you not getting?


As long as his side does it, it’s perfectly acceptable.
so you denounce the dnc for rigging the election in 16?


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i slammed them plenty for it. i never implied that was acceptable whatsoever.

you, on the other hand, would find a way to spin the narratives even if they defrauded you out of your own money.

seems like you're fine with foreigners hacking us and having our own americans committing espionage -regardless of the reasoning- in order to benefit the foreign entity and/or government.

thats fine, just dont expect this combat vet to be cool with espionage within our borders.


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i slammed them plenty for it. i never implied that was acceptable whatsoever.

you, on the other hand, would find a way to spin the narratives even if they defrauded you out of your own money.

seems like you're fine with foreigners hacking us and having our own americans committing espionage -regardless of the reasoning- in order to benefit the foreign entity and/or government.

thats fine, just dont expect this combat vet to be cool with espionage within our borders.

That espionage resulted in proving our civil rights were and are being violated every single day.

As a vet, you fought for your country and to uphold the constitution, not to back those undermining it by spying on its own citizens and trampling on their constitutional rights with no regard.

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Can't see how anyone could be in the bag on either side of this debate. Neither is an enviable position.

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im certainly not upholding the constitution for foreign entities backed by the kremlin to have a spy within our government, as well as hack our election in an attempt to swing it to their preferred candidate.

i don't know why you expect me to be ok with that. this conversation is starting to get a bit weird and uncomfortable.


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im certainly not upholding the constitution for foreign entities backed by the kremlin to have a spy within our government, as well as hack our election in an attempt to swing it to their preferred candidate.

i don't know why you expect me to be ok with that. this conversation is starting to get a bit weird and uncomfortable.
I still haven't seen evidence it was Russian hacking, have you? You heard people say it was, have you seen anything....those are the same people that said they were not spying on us when they reported to congress under oath, which was a lie.

sorry not sorry for not trusting a story with no evidence.

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Yes, 17 intelligence agencies really did say Russia was behind hacking

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...cking/92514592/


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