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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General William Barr declared Wednesday he thinks “spying did occur” against Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, suggesting the origins of the Russia investigation may have been mishandled in remarks that aligned him with the president at a time when Barr’s independence is under scrutiny.

Barr, appearing before a Senate panel, did not say what “spying” may have taken place seemed to be alluding to a surveillance warrant the FBI obtained on a former Trump associate. He later said he wasn’t sure there had been improper surveillance but wanted to make sure proper procedures were followed. Still, his remarks give a boost to Trump and his supporters who insist his 2016 campaign was unfairly targeted by the FBI.

https://www.apnews.com/eac9c8f45ed84fb9a3c1f5c486f5c09e


Duh.
Exactly what I said in my previous post...

Barr has seen evidence (unreleased) that there WAS spying and is now investigating if it was warranted and how it all began.


Not what you said! You said "Barr has seen evidence (unreleased) that there WAS spying"... he is looking to see if evidence exist at all! In other words he's shamefully pacifying Trump and the base.

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Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it?


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Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it?


He only owns weak suits. Comprehension is not one of those either. Not really but I like to kid 40.

40 knows exactly what he read/said, he just tried to Trump spin it as usual.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General William Barr declared Wednesday he thinks “spying did occur” against Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, suggesting the origins of the Russia investigation may have been mishandled in remarks that aligned him with the president at a time when Barr’s independence is under scrutiny.

Barr, appearing before a Senate panel, did not say what “spying” may have taken place seemed to be alluding to a surveillance warrant the FBI obtained on a former Trump associate. He later said he wasn’t sure there had been improper surveillance but wanted to make sure proper procedures were followed. Still, his remarks give a boost to Trump and his supporters who insist his 2016 campaign was unfairly targeted by the FBI.

https://www.apnews.com/eac9c8f45ed84fb9a3c1f5c486f5c09e


Duh.
Exactly what I said in my previous post...

Barr has seen evidence (unreleased) that there WAS spying and is now investigating if it was warranted and how it all began.


Not what you said! You said "Barr has seen evidence (unreleased) that there WAS spying"... he is looking to see if evidence exist at all! In other words he's shamefully pacifying Trump and the base.


So you guys think he just pulled the belief that there was spying out of his pocket? rofl
He sees evidence we are not allowed to see and came to the conclusion there was spying.
Now he investigates to see if it was warranted or illegal.

You guys have problems with comprehension.

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What part of he just wanted to see if proper procedures had been followed can't you grasp?


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I grasped it the first time I posted it.

Repeating what I originally said back to me as an argument is incoherent.

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What it shows is he has questions with no evidence or answers.


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What it shows me is he has a belief, not given him by God but from what he has seen with his own eyes, and is now investigating to see if it was handled legally.

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I didn't know a belief was evidence.


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I didn't know a belief was evidence.


It is evidence he has seen that gave him the belief.

This ain't Rocket Science.

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So you guys think he just pulled the belief that there was spying out of his pocket? rofl
He sees evidence we are not allowed to see and came to the conclusion there was spying.
Now he investigates to see if it was warranted or illegal.

You guys have problems with comprehension.


This is an assumption. You are making this assumption based on very little know data. It may be correct, in part or whole, but is far from known fact at this point.

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I'm one of those that doesn't even believe in the "deep state".. For me it's a made up Boogey man so the right has something to use to cause fear and hate.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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I didn't know a belief was evidence.


It is evidence he has seen that gave him the belief.

This ain't Rocket Science.


Or he's following Trump's orders... which is much more likely.

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Try reading this slower this time....

He later said he wasn’t sure there had been improper surveillance but wanted to make sure proper procedures were followed.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Try reading this slower this time....

He later said he wasn’t sure there had been improper surveillance but wanted to make sure proper procedures were followed.


You typed it too fast Pit!

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I'm one of those that doesn't even believe in the "deep state".. For me it's a made up Boogey man so the right has something to use to cause fear and hate.


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I'm one of those that doesn't even believe in the "deep state".. For me it's a made up Boogey man so the right has something to use to cause fear and hate.


You will be knowing for sure once the Inspector General's report comes out in June and when Barr finishes his investigation.

Believe what ever you want till then.

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I'm one of those that doesn't even believe in the "deep state".. For me it's a made up Boogey man so the right has something to use to cause fear and hate.


You will be knowing for sure once the Inspector General's report comes out in June and when Barr finishes his investigation.

Believe what ever you want till then.


Yeah,, sure. Whatever you say


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It wouldn't surprise me if they come up with some manufactured distraction leading up to the election.


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It wouldn't surprise me if they come up with some manufactured distraction leading up to the election.


LOL no doubt... This president and his team are the True definition of "TV President". He's a reality show and everything he does is for "SHOW" not "GO".

So no doubt, the "Shallow State" run by Donald Trump will spring senseless news stories that are really nothing of substance but they'll call them stories of great meaning.

Did anyone see the Trump Tweets about Bernie Sanders from Mondays Fox News Town Hall? Man he's afraid of Sanders.. Or at least he acts like it. And the name calling goes on... Sleepy Joe Biden and Crazy Bernie Sanders... Trump is a 5 year old in a old fat mans body. rofl


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It wouldn't surprise me if they come up with some manufactured distraction leading up to the election.

Maybe we will bomb a middle eastern aspirin factory.


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It wouldn't surprise me if they come up with some manufactured distraction leading up to the election.

Maybe we will bomb a middle eastern aspirin factory.


Or accuse another Muslim country of having tons of WMD and start a war over it. You know voters love a war time president.


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You know voters love a war time president.


They love then so much, this country has only gone 17 years without war.


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The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 52% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.

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rofl

Economist/YouGov 4/13 - 4/16 43%

Monmouth 4/11 - 4/15 40%

Every poll there is has him at less than 45% except Rasmussen.

But when you have to search for good news you use the exception, not the rule.


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I see you didn't comprehend "Poll of Likely Voters". rofl

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Donald Trump tweet on 50% approval cherry-picks polling data

Mostly false

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter...y-picks-pollin/

After the 2010 midterm elections, Silver concluded that Rasmussen's polls were the least accurate of the major pollsters in 2010, having an average error of 5.8 points and a pro-Republican bias of 3.9 points according to Silver's model.


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Backtrack and cover time! rofl

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Donald Trump tweet on 50% approval cherry-picks polling data

Mostly false

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter...y-picks-pollin/

After the 2010 midterm elections, Silver concluded that Rasmussen's polls were the least accurate of the major pollsters in 2010, having an average error of 5.8 points and a pro-Republican bias of 3.9 points according to Silver's model.
Polls are trash. Ramussen and the others, as about 99% of them (including Silver) said Hilary was going to win in a landslide.

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On its final poll released Nov. 7, the day before Election Day, Rasmussen had Hillary Clinton up 2 points on Donald Trump. Clinton won the popular vote by 1 percentage point, even though Donald Trump beat her on electoral votes.

No other pollster tracked by RealClearPolitics came as close to the final results.

https://thehill.com/media/306721-rasmussen-calls-itself-most-accurate-pollster-of-2016

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By a landslide? Where did you get that from? They all pretty much said she was going to win but most were within their margin of errors.

But I agree they're all junk. But it is funny how someone would cherry pick the only one that makes them look good and ignore all of the others.


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By a landslide? Where did you get that from? They all pretty much said she was going to win but most were within their margin of errors.

But I agree they're all junk. But it is funny how someone would cherry pick the only one that makes them look good and ignore all of the others.
Isnt that what everyone does though?

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Sometimes yes. Sometimes people use sources that give actual quotes and facts that back up what they're saying. It varies.


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But it is funny how someone would cherry pick the only one that makes them look good and ignore all of the others.


Not funny. Typical.
This has been his self-promotion M.O. for decades. And when cherry-picking is insufficient, he just lies to people outright.

I was raised by good honest people to respect the opposite traits this- 'person' exhibits. No polls are necessary for me to know what to think about him....

In my world, character still counts for something, so no-
not a 'John Barron' fan.

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Trump will never reach a true 50% favorability because he only plays to his base.

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Trump will never reach a true 50% favorability because he only plays to his base.


So true.....trump could reach the highest numbers of any president ever. But he’s too bat crap crazy and stupid to pull that off.


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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
I'm one of those that doesn't even believe in the "deep state".. For me it's a made up Boogey man so the right has something to use to cause fear and hate.


There IS a deep state says Comey: Fired FBI director says Trump is RIGHT - but 'unchangeable' FBI, CIA and military love American values and are NOT trying to bring down 'elected leadership'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...deep-state.html

P.S. It's truth ("there is a deep state") with a lie ("FBI, CIA and military love American values and are NOT trying to bring down 'elected leadership'."). The latter is just what they did for the last two years (Trump-Russia-collusion).

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So the line is. ‘Both sides suck.” Get over it.


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The deep state conspiracy holds zero weight after the Mueller report! What a crock of crap!

How does it feel GOPers? How does it feel knowing that Trump lies and twist everything that he and his stooges tell you! Everything! He directs people to lie to you and you gobble it up like chump chowder! smh

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
The deep state conspiracy holds zero weight after the Mueller report! What a crock of crap!

How does it feel GOPers? How does it feel knowing that Trump lies and twist everything that he and his stooges tell you! Everything! He directs people to lie to you and you gobble it up like chump chowder! smh


I can't speak for anyone else, I didn't think there was anything real about the Deep State... I think I may have been hasty in that thinking..

There is a deep state, but I think it's operated by the Republicans... They are what they have accused the Dems of being.

Lying, Cheating, Deceptive actions are all part of the playbook..

What frightens me is that for the better part of my life, I've voted republican.. I'm not ashamed because when I look back, this is NOT the republican party I knew.

The Mueller report was very enlightening. It showed people an inside look at what the "Deep State" really is. Or as I like to think of it today, the "Shallow State". Nobody can be more Shallow than those that cover for a president that purposely attempts to divide us with the help of Russians.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders can't be trusted (not that she ever was really) She has now been proved to be a liar that will do or say anything to protect this president. Mostly from his own stupidity.

I got a kick out of guys like 40 and a few others that are all happy right now. They should be afraid,, Very afraid... And worse yet, we don't even know whats in the redacted portions of the report.

No Predictions, but it's not looking good at the moment for Donnie....

Oh,, Really, Barr saying that Trump did the obstruction type actions because he was feeling pressure..., did that damn fool actually say that? Really?

He's not the US AG, he's the Trump AG...


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