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And that's the sad part of this. At this time if the primary elections were held tomorrow, Mayor Pete would get my vote. His sexuality has nothing to do with it. It's just that I think he represents the best of what the Democratic party has to offer. He's a bit on the moderate centrist side and I think that is rooted in his religion. He claims he is a progressive but I would need to see more of that. I think he's pragmatic but burdened by boundaries the right established and many think can't be crossed, which is BS. The left needs to move the country left, Period. Where the right is now can not be allowed to become a norm or we're headed for a fascist dictatorship.
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Welcome back, Razor.
A few months ago, I called out for you to weigh in on PB, because I wanted to hear from someone who knew him before I met him... and I knew about him well in advance of most national consumers.
Thanks for contributing. I've been waiting to hear from you.
As far as I know, you are the only Dawgtalker who has Real Life experience living with Pete Butigiege.
It's good to read what you think of him.
It's the kind of first-hand testimony that helps me, as I reason my way through this selection process. Seriously, Clem? Asking razorthorns what he thinks of Buttigieg is like asking a KKK member what they think of the black politician in their city. Not only do you have years of him posting about his disdain for homosexuals, bet the fact that he needs to preface it with this should give you a clue as to his thinking: regardless of his sexual preference My dad’s brother and his very large family all live in South Bend and the like Buttigieg very much. They think he has done a lot for the city and has things moving in the right direction. I don’t know enough about him to form an opinion yet, but I sure as hell would not be looking for opinions and insight where you are right now. He is unelectable, so there is that issue. I said in spite of his sexual orientation because that has nothing to do with anything. I am talking STRICTLY based on his performance as MAYOR and nothing else. They must live on the West Side then where the only improvement he made was to redo the sidewalks of sample street going there the area of town where it's the most violent part of town. Then again he did want to make SB a sanctuary city so there is that. Perhaps your trying to give him credit for the improvements that Notre Dame did to its OWN properties. The City of South Bend had zero to do with that other than to be told to stay the heck out of the way. My Mayor had zero to do with it. Now shall we talk about the condition of the roads? South Bend since this mayor took over has created THE WORST roads in the county. BY FAR. There are 6 inch deep pot holes that have been in some neighborhoods for over 4 years now. It has cost me over a thousand dollars in repairs. Try going over the railroad tracks without destroying your car. Yes business is booming for car mechanics that is for sure. You talk about downtown? Yes, he finally let them tear down an old building so his buddy could build an apartment building. No kickbacks from that AT ALL. Meanwhile I know MANY people who flat out refuse to go downtown at all anymore. Why? Because this ignorant and incompetent mayor decides that it's in everyone's best interest to make a 5 minute drive turn into a 15 to 20 minute nightmare. It's a royal pain to go anywhere down there now. My brother works for the city and we live within walking distance of downtown. He won't let me drive him to work because it takes longer to drive there than to walk there almost. He hasn't done anything to improve south bend at all. In fact he has many folks wanting to flat out move away. There is such a clear line where south bend roads turn into roads taken care of by the other cities. It's so clear as day because suddenly you see roads that are actually maintained. He is by far the worst mayor this town has seen in ages. Even my father who is a hardcore liberal democrat can't stand how much he has ruined the town. None of those critiques are based on his religious views or his sexual preferences. So keep your KKK nonsense to yourself. I am not racist and never have been. I also don't hate people who are not Christian or don't share my values. I just have my own views and stick to them without being intimidated by PC nonsense.
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Welcome back, Razor.
A few months ago, I called out for you to weigh in on PB, because I wanted to hear from someone who knew him before I met him... and I knew about him well in advance of most national consumers.
Thanks for contributing. I've been waiting to hear from you.
As far as I know, you are the only Dawgtalker who has Real Life experience living with Pete Butigiege.
It's good to read what you think of him.
It's the kind of first-hand testimony that helps me, as I reason my way through this selection process. Sorry I didn't respond sooner mate I have been really busy since about DEC. I know me and you don't always agree but I do very much respect your opinions. Far as the man personally he is nice enough but while he is a good public speaker he is a bit stiff as a person. I don't know him as a person very well myself. My brother though knows him quite well and no I won't say what his job is because that might lead to trouble due to politics and stuff. My brother knows him far better than I do but he can't stand working with him for too long because he is a bit uppity and full of himself according to my brother. According to my brother, I have not worked with him myself but my brother is an extremely honest person, but the Mayor is the type who likes to walk around and stir the pot so he can say he did something even when he doesn't know what is going on. Other than that he is pretty harmless and doesn't aggravate people too much. I can just say that for me personally South Bend has gotten much worse since he became mayor when I look at the quality of life for most people and not just a few select neighborhoods that perk his political interest.
You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
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I know nothing about this candidate.
I feel this country can elect a gay person as long as they dont make their candidacy about their sexuality. Because that is inappropriate and will turn people off. Above all, be a professional and have a vision for the country. Keep your sexuality to yourself, nobody wants to hear about that.
Not from straight people. Not from gay people.
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I know nothing about this candidate.
I feel this country can elect a gay person as long as they dont make their candidacy about their sexuality. Because that is inappropriate and will turn people off. Above all, be a professional and have a vision for the country. Keep your sexuality to yourself, nobody wants to hear about that.
Not from straight people. Not from gay people. I agree Eve. Show me results and not politics. Keep your private life private =)
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And that's the sad part of this. At this time if the primary elections were held tomorrow, Mayor Pete would get my vote. His sexuality has nothing to do with it. It's just that I think he represents the best of what the Democratic party has to offer. He's a bit on the moderate centrist side and I think that is rooted in his religion. He claims he is a progressive but I would need to see more of that. I think he's pragmatic but burdened by boundaries the right established and many think can't be crossed, which is BS. The left needs to move the country left, Period. Where the right is now can not be allowed to become a norm or we're headed for a fascist dictatorship. There's a difference in moving to the left and going so far to the left you crash into a building. I'm not a building crasher. I am very moderate and I'm tired of those screaming from both extremes. I know you have a different direction that that politically. Progressive is just a polite word for extremist. We all want progress in some form. Mine just happens to be a little more measured and not as extreme.
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I don’t have faith that this country will elect a gay president no matter how competent, Swish. I still don’t have faith that a woman can be elected as president at this point. That’s why every citizen should vote. I’m convinced if there was 75% turnout at the polls we would get the right man or woman every four to eight years. Like we got the right man in 2016.
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You started out with a field of 17 candidates running for the Republican nomination and picked the worst of the bunch. But then so did the Democrats. And they probably will do the same thing again.
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Well yeah that’s really what I was saying. And the dedicated voters I know vote every election and primary. It’s just creating the dedicated voters. And after the last foo fa election, I believe we’re going to see a lot of dedicated voters here on out.
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I don’t have faith that this country will elect a gay president no matter how competent, Swish. I still don’t have faith that a woman can be elected as president at this point. That’s why every citizen should vote. I’m convinced if there was 75% turnout at the polls we would get the right man or woman every four to eight years. Like we got the right man in 2016.  ok bro
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When was the last time we actually had a decent candidate to even vote for. All I ever see are two bad choices because neither party puts a competent person up for election.
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Surprised it hasn't been posted yet. What's the guys name....David or Jacob Wahl? Trying to get people to falsely claim that Pete had groped them? I recall that he is some sort of deranged right wing SJW.
From the tweets I read, sounds like that dude is going to jail.
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Surprised it hasn't been posted yet. What's the guys name....David or Jacob Wahl? Trying to get people to falsely claim that Pete had groped them? I recall that he is some sort of deranged right wing SJW.
From the tweets I read, sounds like that dude is going to jail. Second or third time he's done something like this. Guy is a total dirtbag.
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Unless if he was doing that to a gay conservative he would be your Hero lmao
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When was the last time we actually had a decent candidate to even vote for. All I ever see are two bad choices because neither party puts a competent person up for election. I guess that depends on your point of view. There were candidates running for the Republican nomination in 2016 I would have voted for. I do think that decent people try to get nominated, but rarely win the nomination. But choosing the guy who is calling all of his opponents names, even those within his party, telling lies consistently and generally just wreaking havoc and hate certainly isn't the answer. Picking the worst of the bunch isn't the answer. I know and am friends with a lot of Republicans. Most of those I am friends with are pretty logical and level headed people. We don't agree on everything but our views are much closer than the Trumpians. That's why I don't view actual Republicans as being true Trumpians. Being as optimistic as I can about the situation, I believe there were so many "Real Republicans" running in 2016 that the votes were split among them so much that the extremist demagogue pulled off a coup of the Republican party.
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Unless if he was doing that to a gay conservative he would be your Hero lmao Nah bro, gay bashing is not cool no matter who is doing it.
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Surprised it hasn't been posted yet. What's the guys name.. Jussie
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Unless if he was doing that to a gay conservative he would be your Hero lmao Nah bro, gay bashing is not cool no matter who is doing it. Why? We have Christian bashing and Muslim bashing, Trump and his supporters bashing, Lib bashing, Conservative bashing, White bashing and Black bashing. And Obama bashing. Are you saying Gay's are superior? Are you a Gay Supremacist?
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equal opportunity. if we can catch heat, they can catch heat.
honestly though, the only "group" that seems to have immunity from bashing without being called the worst of the worst is the jewish community.
but.....Stalin and Chairman Mao have body counts than Hitler could only dream of.
Hitler gets the mantel (rightfully so) because he decided he wanted to target a very specific group based on race/culture, and thats why jewish people are the most protected class.
but Mao and Stalin.....yikes.
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Not to mention Pol Pot. Yikes!
But when people call us conservatives Nazi's it just don't ring if we call them Mao, back.
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cause you have literal nazi's within your ideology. obviously the majority of conservatives aren't nazi's, but its the supremacist aspect that you guys cant seem to shake. can't call us mao cause we arent going out of our way to kill our own people. and it also sounds dumb.
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Thats because the Nazi's were white that we get tagged.
We can't shake it because Libs keep pushing it.
Like Nelson says, we are not represented by the 40 drunk guys in backwoods Bama.
Bunch of stinkin' Mao's!
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bro you white guys started two world wars.
i mean.....
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We also created all the successful Nations that fought in Europe.
If we choose to blow them up from time to time, well, get over it.
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depends on what you define as success.
history says that means different things to different people.
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Unless if he was doing that to a gay conservative he would be your Hero lmao Nah bro, gay bashing is not cool no matter who is doing it. Why? We have Christian bashing and Muslim bashing, Trump and his supporters bashing, Lib bashing, Conservative bashing, White bashing and Black bashing. And Obama bashing. Are you saying Gay's are superior? Are you a Gay Supremacist? We also created all the successful Nations that fought in Europe.
If we choose to blow them up from time to time, well, get over it. This is what it looks like when the cheese leaves the cracker.
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bro you white guys started two world wars.
i mean..... Hey, it's not our fault your African warlords couldn't dream bigger and kept all of their wars local.
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bro you white guys started two world wars.
i mean..... Hey, it's not our fault your African warlords couldn't dream bigger and kept all of their wars local. hell i thought yall wanted us to buy local and organic!
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When was the last time we actually had a decent candidate to even vote for. All I ever see are two bad choices because neither party puts a competent person up for election. That is a big big problem. I could make the argument that almost every single candidate is garbage. Candidates are garbage Debates are garbage Media and News coverage are garbage If you go back and look at how the coverage, candidates, and debates were in the 70's and 80's. Why can't it be like that?
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When was the last time we actually had a decent candidate to even vote for. All I ever see are two bad choices because neither party puts a competent person up for election. That is a big big problem. I could make the argument that almost every single candidate is garbage. Candidates are garbage Debates are garbage Media and News coverage are garbage If you go back and look at how the coverage, candidates, and debates were in the 70's and 80's. Why can't it be like that? Because unless you are squeaky clean, without blemish from your past, you will be crucified by congress and their media in front of the world. There are very few people who are willing to put themselves and their families through that. Innuendo and accusation rule the day. Justice be damned.
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Yeah, I mean it happened to Hillary.
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When was the last time we actually had a decent candidate to even vote for. All I ever see are two bad choices because neither party puts a competent person up for election. That is a big big problem. I could make the argument that almost every single candidate is garbage. Candidates are garbage Debates are garbage Media and News coverage are garbage If you go back and look at how the coverage, candidates, and debates were in the 70's and 80's. Why can't it be like that? And it's our fault.
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Not my fault. I got the last good one!  Trump 
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Not my fault. I got the last good one!  Trump 
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Not my fault. I got the last good one! Not unless you voted for JFK.
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