DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2019 NFL Season 2019 NFL Draft Browns pick Sione Takitaki 80th overall

I don't like this pick. Dude's been in a lot of trouble and has been wildly inconsistent. Seems like yet another head case.

Of course, I did not like last year's draft and it turned out to be outstanding. So, what do I know?

Might he be converted to safety, or some hydrid-type position?

Wolf said he thinks Sione Takitaki projects into the LB rotation right away

I love the versatility. I know nothing about the player.

When all is said and done, I think this guy will justify the pick. LB group needed some speed and this kid has it. Dorsey adding speed to all levels of the D and O.

I don't think he is a physical player. I think he struggles to get off blocks.

Dial it down, man.

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Size isn't everything but he looks small. To me 6'1, 238 is not a big LB.

...Does this selection tie in to the Schobert trade rumors?

No. We're not trading Joe.

I read a couple things that suggests he's good in coverage. I look at him as a third round flyer at LB and a ST demon.

I don't think his size is an issue. He may make some hits, but getting off blocks is important. He is poor in that area.

I do think this is evidence that Joe might be gone. This is the kind of stupid crap that happens w/coaching changes.

I actually think we have digressed during this draft.

One reason to be poor at shedding blocks: the guy blocking has a hundred pounds on you. Am I making too much of his size? Especially his weight?

I certainly hope we keep Schobert. I think he's a talented, and smart, player.

It's important, lamp. However, there is way more to it.

Playing w/leverage. Lower body strength. Hand technique. Lateral movement. It's not even close to being about size.

I ran over 250 lb dudes at 185-190 lbs all the time. I laid out huge offensive linemen when I played Monster back. Leverage, velocity, technique, want-to, lack of fear, and having no problem w/lighting your ass up are huge factors. It isn't all about size when it comes to tackling or running the rock.

The players were slightly smaller in those days, still, Mike Singletary was ferocious at 230#. Ray Lewis went about 240#.

As you said, desire and mindset are so important when you need to impose your will on another player.

j/c:

Wondering why we did not take Lane w/this pick?

Sacks and tackles. Just my guess but I think this is what we brought him here to do.

They probably saw something in his transition to LB last year that went under the radar. Only thing I can figure.

I will say his intensity and playing speed look really good...He gets washed out rather easy, and his tackling form will need improvements if hes attempting to take down an NFL back...

Its hard to get a true sense in a highlight flick...but I was listening to an interview and I guess Fred Warner made the transition to ILB, and seems like that could be this guys calling as well...But like someone else stated alot of his plays came at edge...so I guess we shall see.

I'm not mad or anything and Dorsey knows way more about football than I do. Just conversing.

Good call.

I don't think so.

I like Joe the person and agree he is smart. But, when I heard we might trade him, I went to watch some games while focusing on him.

I came out lower on him than I went in. I think in some ways he might be more a good "analytics" LB than a good "on film" LB.

Yes, he did well in coverage. However, he was covering guys like "end of the line" Antonio Gates and undrafted, 4.98 40 Eric Tomlinson. His one pick was a gift from Sam Darnold who got pressured and hit a standing still Schobert in the chest.

Against athletic TEs, Avery was the LB we seemed to match up more often.

Schobert does move well in space, but I don't know that he can handle better athletes there.

Some of it may have been scheme as at times it looked like Williams had him sprinting back to Peppers' "Angel" role.

Still, a LB spending ~90% of his time running away from the line of scrimmage is a little off to me.

His knowledge of Williams' D was a plus, but its probably more valuable in Williams' D than here in Wilks'.

He doesn't handle contact all that well. He'd probably benefit from more of a wall type set of DTs to keep him clean. Last year, TEs, RBs, and pulling Guards put him in the dirt a decent bit.

Occasionally he'll knife into the backfield unblocked but more often he's stoned cold if they get a single hand on him.

Can someone else watch the Jets game (it was recommended to me as one of his "good" games) and tell me if I'm crazy? I had thought he was good.

Yah for sure.

My fav players are always LB/TE. We haven't really had an LB I felt safe buying a jersey of yet, so I have a Njoku right now, but if this guy is good I'm gonna get one for sure, his name is just too good. I've been saying it all night already haha

Kaluka Maiavia, remember him, was in the 230's I believe.


somebodys got some explaining.


A tuff pill to swallow, A tuff pill to swallow at #80 overall.

trying to hold my tongue.


tuff pill to swallow.

We need LBs that can ‘run with’ Lamar. We just got one. I could see us using a multi (5) linebacker/hybrid safety set against Baltimore. A guy like Takitaki can fill that squad out.

I'm disappointed because I hoped that we would add a rotational DT at that draft slot. I honestly don't believe I know enough about Willis' defense. I read a few articles, and a lot of internet chatter but honestly I don't know enough about Willis' defense to evaluate the role Takitaki is projected to fill. He seems to be a productive blitzing LB. He seems to have skills to pursue plays from the backside with noticeable success. When he can square up on a ball carrier he delivers some physical hits.

I haven't seen evidence that he makes consistent and routine run fits. There isn't much film showing him in coverage. So these are questions I have about him.

Brown acid?

He's a good player, great run defender. Not much of a coverage guy, but he's pretty good at exploiting an offensive line on the pass rush.

Reminds me of Kendricks. I don't think he'll ever be a full time player, but as a specialist, role player, I can definitely see it. I think it's great for when we play the Ravens two times a year and they run that high school offense.

But, I felt there were better options at this pick. Oh well, I don't think he's flat out bad like Chad Thomas.

As to his prior problems off the field, he fought back from them, got married, matured, and became a team captain this year. I don't think that's a worry at all.

I really don't know much of anything about this kid, but I am going to trust Dorsey and Co. They seem absolutely certain, and Wolf seems to absolutely love the kid.

I welcome any player who tackles well. We gotta play this guy. Can he rush the passer well?
Arms should be a plus there.