DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2019 NFL Season 2019 NFL Draft Browns Select Austin Siebert K Oklahoma

Browns need a kicker and NFL Network says he was best kicker coming out. Good pick?

Terrible pick in any round.

https://www.bnd.com/sports/college/article229645979.html

Good read on him.

Highest scoring kicker in the FBS, beating out....Zane Gonzalvez

Not sure he even beats out Greg Joseph. Doesn't seem to have he meg for FGs over 50 yards.

Who knows. We'll se.

Stupid Analytics ... *LOL* ...

He's used to kicking lots of extra points per game, I guess.

If he’s truly great then it’s a great pick. 5th would be the highest I could imagine for a “great” kicker being drafted. But the numbers don’t seem to match the greatness title. 4 of 9 between 40-49 yards? 1 of 3 over 50? Who calls that great? If he’s being called great for PATs and chip shot field goals I’m struggling with that.

Also a team mate of Mayfields... FWIW

Trust me, since the FO drafted this guy, he is going to stick over Joseph...But like you said is he even any better? The distance kicking is very troubling...Specially with the wind and climate we have up here.

I don,t understand this pick at all. I doubt he would’ve been drafted and anyway, I don’t think he beats out Joseph. Could’ve gone OL, WR. But Dorsey is the man.

Fun Fact:

I hated when Joe Banner conducted kicker try outs right before the season started showing a total lack of respect for the position and a laughing stock for the rest of the league. But, drafting a kicker seems way too risky. 5th round is probably way too much respect.

I wasn't able to have any confidence in Joseph. That being said, I'm not enthusiastic with drafting a position that has been commonly filled by a free agent.

Some NFL scouts and insiders have questions about Seibert’s ability to be successful from long range. Seibert made just four of nine field goal attempts from 40-49 yards during his final three years with the Sooners. He was also just 1-of-3 from over 50 yards in his career.

Seibert’s dad, Mark Seibert, has no doubt his son has the leg strength and ability to kick in the NFL.


“Austin has always had a strong leg. He’s kicked 70 yard field goals in practice and his percentage on touchbacks on kickoffs was the best in the nation ,’’ Mark Seibert said.

“I just know how much time and home much work he has put into kicking. From the day he started kicking when he was with the (Devils), he just loved it. I just want to see him get a chance to show what he can do and it doesn’t matter what team. If he gets picked up and given a chance, there’s no doubt in my mind that he can kick in the NFL.’’

Seibert also disputes those who question his ability to make the long-range field goals in the NFL.

“This isn’t meant to sound cocky and no disrespect towards any of the other kickers but I’ve got the strongest leg in the draft,’’ Seibert said. “I’ve led the nation in touchback percentage the past two years,’’ Seibert said. “What would it mean to play in the NFL? Well, I’ve worked a long, long time for a chance.. I just want a chance to get to an NFL camp and show what I can do.

From that article above

Stupid scouting...LOL


More like stupid picking....the guy is a UDFA if we don't blow a 5th on him.

Eh, i think you're overvaluing draft picks and undervaluing kickers.

I mean, heck, if this guy turns out to be our Janikowski, it's totally worth it.

It's not like he's a long-snapper or something.

If they think this guy's the guy, then i have to have faith

The thinking is that a bunch of rookies are not going to make the team. Fill the need with the kicker you want instead of risking him going elsewhere as a UDFA...?

We do need a better kicker, so I welcome the competition.

Pick #170 is almost like a 6th round pick, and this selection ensures we got our guy there.

If it's all good for Belichick to take a Punter 7 picks ahead of us, I'm all good with taking a Kicker where we did.

If he sticks around and makes the team - and doesn't screw up - it's worth it. If nothing else, he isn't likely to be any worse than what we had last year and it will be on a rookie salary.

As for taking a WR or OL or whatever else at this point.... none of those would be likely to make the final roster. Waste of a pick there.


Also - I feel for anyone taken after him -- "dude, they took a KICKER ahead of you." #coneofshame

I agree, I don't undervalue a kicker. It's a pick that you can keep 22 years. No other position offers that.

I just question this one.

I don't think you should draft a kicker before the 7th round unless he is a guy who can bomb them from deep and make a good percentage.

H8ers gonna H8.

A right footed punter at that!

If we're taking kickers now it means there aren't any guys left and we are drafting priority UDFA guys.

Yup.

I expect a slew of special teams picks to follow at this point.

2018 Browns IF we had a good kicker.

9-7 with possible AFC North title

Seems worth a 5th rounder.

Honestly. I don't know this draft too well. I don't know kickers too well.

But i'm sure The Dorse knows his percentages. I'm sure some scout has watched all his kicks. They maybe even worked him out.

I don't think they take a kicker in the 5th round without doing their homework.



As the rounds get later and later, I learn to have faith in "The Dorse". This is his job, and he's been successful at it.

That IS a good point.

Browns with a kicker:

Hue Jackson never gets fired and we don't go on the late season run.

(I am sorry I did this.)

Anything is better than.....Gonzo.....Joseph.....

How can you miss multiple extra points as these stiffs did ???

WTG Dorsey!!

Honestly, Ryan Pontibrand was a better pick than most of the guys in the 2003 draft. lol. But i'm not sure there's ever been a Long Snapper Drafted in the modern era since him........

He was on the team awhile though. Which makes the point about drafting a kicker in the 5th if they're good

That said, it makes me wonder why we didn't offer up everything to get a 4th?

Really? I'm not prone to overreaction or rash judgments about draft picks. Nor did I express either with my post. But here's my challenge to you. Convince me that there was an ever-increasing demand to draft a kicker, particularly this kicker who's made exactly one field-goal beyond 50 yards for his entire college career. Who could we have been competing with to draft this kid?

The Browns still need interior DL depth. That would have been a better use of the pick. I can hardly believe that I'm posting this because I never criticize picks but this was a poor selection.

If his back hadn't crapped out on him, he would probably STILL be on the team.

And, he was - and I believe still is - the highest drafted Long Snapper in NFL history.

Yeah we still need an end to rotate with Garrett and Vernon...Unless Dorsey thinks his boy Chad Thomas is the answer there. And would have loved a young DT to groom behind Ogu and Richardson.

Have you seen him kick? Did you know of him before today?

Probably not. I'd imagine if we drafted him in the fifth round, we would have done some sort of homework on the guy.


And if he's as good as Phil Dawson was for us, than he's certainly worth a fifth round pick.

Most fifth round picks don't make much of a difference. In today's NFL, with the far field goal, kickers do make a difference. A kicker was the difference between the playoffs and not as far as i'm concerned



This one in particular, from the surface, makes me scratch my head. But Dorsey drafted well last year. And he's drafted well in the past. So until i'm proven wrong, i'm gonna have more faith in what John Dorsey is doing over whoever writes for NFL.com or ESPN or whatever.

Didn't know that was what happened to him. Just that he screwed up like once or a couple times, and we moved on to like Christian Yount or something?


That's the kind of position where, if you notice them, they've done something wrong