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I was going to look this up but there is no long snapper filter on Pro Football Reference's draft finder.

I think Brady was a 5th round pick.

6th rounder

Not impressed with this pick, guy has a strong leg but he's also not that accurate. Gotta hope the coaching staff sees something that he's doing that can fix the problem.

Dorsey doesn't suck just because I question some of the picks.



Five years from now this might be his best draft ever, but it is easier to draft high and have multiple picks then be mid round.


Again, I am PRO John Dorsey. I just question some of the picks this year.

So obviously you are unable to tell me who we were competing with so that we had to take this kicker when we took him. Even after having "watched" him. LOL

I'll say it again. In 99.9% of instances, I don't make quick judgments about draft picks. This one was conspicuously weird. Since you "watched" him please tell me why he deserved to be drafted this high?

I don't even object to acquiring the player just not at pick #189. With other more obvious needs left unadressed.

Go pick for us big G.
You seem to have this figured out.
He has been projected as a late round pick. He went late round.
Dorsey is one that sticks to his board. If he was the highest on the board you make that pick. You do it Everytime too.
At this point in the draft all have issues BUT kickers and punters. This is where the good ones go.
It kills me when people think you should land top talent at late round price. They fall here because that's what they are. They have issues, deficiency's problems or they would be high picks.
Good grief !!!!

The guys kicking motion appear looks effortless...what some vids of him.

What "needs"? and, if you say WR, I will stop giving you any creedence right there... we do NOT need any WRs. Why people keep targeting us for WRs is beyond me; that boat is FULL.


Clearly, whatever they were, this guy was a better Kicker than they are at whatever their position. This guy is almost guaranteed to make the roster, those guys will be fighting to get a roster spot as depth.

In terms of value to the team as a whole, this is far more likely to be a more valuable & beneficial choice.

Not sure where you saw me say I "Watched him". I specifically said i didn't. I asked if you did........... I'm not going to re-read my posts, but if i typed i did, then i left out the "n't"


My point was, that most people complaining about the pick, never watched him.

Just as most people haven't watched most of these guys going in the 5th round......... As for filling needs. I'm no Gregg Joseph fan. I've wanted him replaced for awhile. Gould, Gostkowski. Someone else. So I saw kicker as a need like any other position.


And, chances are, you're not going to be filling vital needs in the 5th round. Most fifth rounders don't make it. Like i said, I feel like you're devaluing kickers and overvaluing low draft picks...... (Not that low draft picks are worthless, but kickers aren't worthless either).

I think Joseph probably has the leg up (get it?) on beating him right now.

I like the pick. I think PK is important and I wasn't impressed with Joseph. This guy, according to some conversation I heard on the radio from an OU fan, not only has a very strong leg, his FGAs get height very quickly making them hard to block. He also is reported to have made multiple FGs at the gun to win the game, which means he's cash money with the game on the line. Worst case is the competition pushes Joseph to get better, although I suspect that Seibert being drafted in the 5th round makes him likely to win the job if he's decent-to-good in TC and preseason games.

Tough to meet high expectations after last years draft... But he got us several key FAs, so there is that.

OK, if you're going to interject in an exchange that's your right. It is a message board. But if I were going to do that I would read the post that were made before, just say'n. Because in an earlier post I did say, in English, that it seemed we could have addressed depth on the DL, particularly interior depth. If anyone thinks we have solved the run stopping problem by simply adding Richardson they are deluding themselves. Richardson is a great addition to the team but a decent rotational DT is a more pressing need. Then go get the kicker nobody is competing with us to draft.

What if they didn't think there was a decent rotational DT available?

lol, i think it's actually his message board too......... He runs the thing

Although I'll still wait and see, at least you offer some tangible reasons why we might have drafted the guy.

And?
Did I claim ownership of the board?

If he's claiming some exceptional status let him claim it. Otherwise, he's just another guy on here with a log-on.

Yeah Purp! Just because you pay for and provide this great fan board, that doesn't give you the right to confuse the noob! smh

No respect.

What mob? The mob of one? or somebody that won't be pressured into group-think?

If a condition of membership is a**kissing the person who runs it or owns it. Please delete my account now.

I think the post said "noob". not "mob".

There are no conditions, it's just a matter of simple respect for the guy. He never asks for a thing from any of us. And I said N-O-O-B, not mob. With your 1608 posts you should already know who Purp is, but observation and reading others posts doesn't seem to be your strong suit. It's all good though because Purp would never say anything to you, just an ass like me would.

The guy you're calling a "noob" has been here over 11 years. How about we stick to the topic?

I'll blame it on my new progressive lenses. But it changes nothing that I wrote. Besides if Purple has a problem with anything thing I've said let me hear it from him. You other sycophants should muster enough personal integrity to leave that between him and me.

ikr. I've been so impressed by what Dorsey pulled off pre-draft that I didn't even bother researching this draft class. We were a contender before this draft thanks to Dorsey, so any good players he snags in the draft are just a bonus IMHO.

Pretty much where i'm at.

I didn't pay much attention to draft recruiting at all. Not like last year or the year before (and probably the year before and before and before, etc.)

This is the first time in forever when i really didn't know much about the class at all. Just what i've randomly seen of guys on Saturday College Football (which became less important recruiting-wise starting Week 3, when Baker Mayfield convinced me that we could beat anyone)

I've watched the draft this year, to get excited about guys we pick-up. But, this year, i'm having faith in "The Dorse" and not worrying about pre/post draft analysis.

EO, I think I'm remaining fairly composed but basically. I said I didn't like the pick because I thought we could get the kicker later and address other needs. About the time that I was making this statement, I wrote a post saying the specific need I thought should be addressed. Then Purple wrote a post later asking what need I was talking about and if it were WR then that would show I wasn't credible. I wrote back and said it is a good idea to know what someone is saying before making assumptions and that I stated the needs in an earlier post. Then some of Purple's fanboys (not suggesting he put them up to it) took it upon themselves to chastise me because I shouldn't reply to the board "owner" as if he just a poster. They implied I owed him some special deference. Hell, I didn't even know he ran the board but my point is that that gives him no special exception from criticism. If he's claiming it, which he has not to my knowledge just tell me and I'll get off of "his" board.

That's it in a nutshell.

Well i didn't mean for a fight to start on here on draft day. I just saw something funny in your post earlier and pointed it out. As far as i'm concerned, you did nothing wrong.


But, i do think you're wrong about this kicker thing. What bothers you the most, the player or the fact that we picked a kicker in the fifth? The Bucs drafted a kicker in the fifth. The Pats drafted a punter in the fifth. Plenty of teams need kickers. I reckon the Chi-Town Bears need one (right off the top of my head). Probably San Francisco too, now that Robbie Gould is demanding a release.

Petey, I didn't get pissed off by you. To answer your question it was when we took the kicker, not so much the kicker.

I hate drafting a kicker.

For the record I'm all in with Dorsey and have voiced very little criticism of what he's done since taking over football operations for the team. Who could? But I didn't like the kicker selection and I would have taken Gerald Willis, DT from Miami.

Tape of Seibert in his SOPHOMORE year of H.S.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NeiN5-Yp9E

Willis is still on the board with about 24 picks left in the draft, so we *might* still get him as a UDFA, although we did pass on him in the 5th, 6th and 7th round when ESPN was showing him as one of the top 5 still available.

Yeah, thought of that too.

I don’t think you can say we don’t go on a late season run, but I do agree we’re better off without Hue.

My post was more about our overall power level, not wishing to have a time
machine.