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The kid seems impressive.
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Your not going to get a lot of long chances when you can't be accurate on anything longer then 39 yards. The dude went 10 for 18 on kicks of 40 or more yards (55.5%) with his longest being 51 yards. For comparison Gonzalez was 27 for 41 on kicks of 40 or more yards (65.9%) with a long of 59 yards.
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I think so too. I mean I can't say how things will work out but if you can improve the position and save on cap space that's a win/win.
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I agree with you on Gonzalez. I think at the time of his release there was a lot going on and it was just best to cut ties. Word was he may have been injured?
I still think Gonzalez will be a good kicker in this league, but unfortunately the timing was off for us.
I still think Joseph can be good, but I need to get used to the idea of not actually needing certain players, we now just need to upgrade existing players.
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This one baffled me a little but we will see ...
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I wouldn't be so sure about Colquitt. He's the 7th highest paid punter as far as annual salary, but was 20th in net average last season. He's also 34 and he has no more guaranteed money on his contract. He'd have no cap hit if cut.
I think he and the "Scottish Hammer" will have a real competition, and the young guy might have the edge with the financial ramifications in mind. And improved athleticism giving options. There's a lot to net yardage. Like Special Teams Coverage. Colquitt is a good player. I don't see any reason for getting rid of them. He's shown he's reliable. That's a good thing. The Scottish Hammer is an unknown. And i don't care how far he kicks, i mean, you can outkick your coverage and create a real mess. Colquitt is good. I expect him hear next year
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I just love the moniker! The Scottish Hammer! Even your kicker sounds bad-ass. That's a culture change. Get a jersey made if he makes the team.
Is he as good as the rep, or is this just hype. Some huge and reliable legs can get you out of trouble. Just like the better ST play that I am hoping to see.
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There's a lot to net yardage. Like Special Teams Coverage.
Colquitt is a good player. I don't see any reason for getting rid of them. He's shown he's reliable. That's a good thing. The Scottish Hammer is an unknown. And i don't care how far he kicks, i mean, you can outkick your coverage and create a real mess. Colquitt is good.
I expect him hear next year
I'm not saying he's gone. He'll just have to show that he's clearly better, which he very well could. If it's close, going younger and cheaper makes some sense.
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is there a legit chance he could be both a P and a K ... thus saving us a roster spot and, eventually, cap space? Nope. They have blamed his accuracy problems in college on having to punt. Word around here is he focused just on kicking and is showing real improvement. His leg strength is not an issue.
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Colquitt is one of the best punters in the league. He is not going anywhere.
Siebert will be the Browns field goal kicker period...
So long Joseph.................... I wouldn't be so sure about Colquitt. He's the 7th highest paid punter as far as annual salary, but was 20th in net average last season. He's also 34 and he has no more guaranteed money on his contract. He'd have no cap hit if cut. I think he and the "Scottish Hammer" will have a real competition, and the young guy might have the edge with the financial ramifications in mind. And improved athleticism giving options. Plus, the Hammer can drop kick from 50 yards.
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I think that Coquitt might have 'a leg up' on the competition in that he has proven pretty good at placing punts inside the 20, often inside the 10. If the Scottish Hammer can prove he can do that, and routinely punt for distance, Coquitt might be out.
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Are people forgetting how good Colquit was at dropping perfect kicks close to the end zone w/out them bouncing in for touchbacks? That's more important than "net yardage."
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Are people forgetting how good Colquit was at dropping perfect kicks close to the end zone w/out them bouncing in for touchbacks? That's more important than "net yardage." I don’t think anyone is wanting to replace Colquit with Siebert but it’s good to know that if an injury happened to your punter you have someone competent to temporarily assume that role.
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I was basing my comments off of these two: is there a legit chance he could be both a P and a K ... thus saving us a roster spot and, eventually, cap space? and Originally Posted By: SuperBrown
Colquitt is one of the best punters in the league. He is not going anywhere.
Siebert will be the Browns field goal kicker period...
So long Joseph....................
I wouldn't be so sure about Colquitt. He's the 7th highest paid punter as far as annual salary, but was 20th in net average last season. He's also 34 and he has no more guaranteed money on his contract. He'd have no cap hit if cut. That's why I mentioned Colquit's ability to drop punts inside the 20 and not just base his value off of "net yardage."
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is there a legit chance he could be both a P and a K ... thus saving us a roster spot and, eventually, cap space? The cons far outweigh the pros. Imagine he gets hurt and now you don’t have a kicker or punter. That’s a disaster.
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Are people forgetting how good Colquit was at dropping perfect kicks close to the end zone w/out them bouncing in for touchbacks? That's more important than "net yardage." 100 percent agree. Colquitt is a good reliable punter. A booking leg only means so much. There's more to it. Why change something that's working?
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Are people forgetting how good Colquit was at dropping perfect kicks close to the end zone w/out them bouncing in for touchbacks? That's more important than "net yardage." 100 percent agree. Colquitt is a good reliable punter. A booking leg only means so much. There's more to it. Why change something that's working? Youth and cost? I think the chance anyone beats out Colquitt is remote but it’s worth discussing. Especially because we brought in a great punting prospect. If he’s better than Colquitt he should play.
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This thread is getting muddled. At least it's reading that way. There's two players being discussed.
To clarify, the Scottish Hammer refers to UDFA punter Jamie Gillan. I'd assume he's the one people are talking about who would replace Colquitt.
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Colquitt is very good at punting.
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This thread is getting muddled. At least it's reading that way. There's two players being discussed.
To clarify, the Scottish Hammer refers to UDFA punter Jamie Gillan. I'd assume he's the one people are talking about who would replace Colquitt.
This quote was about Siebert, not the Scottish dude. is there a legit chance he could be both a P and a K ... thus saving us a roster spot and, eventually, cap space? Reading is hard.
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Wasn't really referring to that quote, but thanks!
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Anything is better than.....Gonzo.....Joseph.....
How can you miss multiple extra points as these stiffs did ???
WTG Dorsey!! Siebert missed 5 XP. He also missed 9 of 19 FG over 40 yards. I think it is more WTF Dorsey than WTG Dorsey.
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Anything is better than.....Gonzo.....Joseph.....
How can you miss multiple extra points as these stiffs did ???
WTG Dorsey!! Siebert missed 5 XP. He also missed 9 of 19 FG over 40 yards. I think it is more WTF Dorsey than WTG Dorsey. We should fire him and rehire the great Sashi Brown.
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Anything is better than.....Gonzo.....Joseph.....
How can you miss multiple extra points as these stiffs did ???
WTG Dorsey!! Siebert missed 5 XP. He also missed 9 of 19 FG over 40 yards. I think it is more WTF Dorsey than WTG Dorsey. We should fire him and rehire the great Sashi Brown. Now there's a thought! Actually, I liked the ZG pick, but kicker is one of those positions where you've got to be good right out of the box...
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To be clear, Austin Seibert has made 310 of 315 XPA's in his collegiate career. He was 81 of 81 in his Junior year and 87 of 88 in his Senior year. Just stating that he missed 5 XPA's is misleading. Meanwhile, Zane Gonzalez has made 33 of 35 attempts in his NFL career, meaning he has missed just one less XPA attempts in 280 fewer attempts. He has also missed 3 more XPA's in the last two years in 134 fewer attempts. Yep, should have kept Zane and Dorsey is a dummy. 
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To be clear, Austin Seibert has made 310 of 315 XPA's in his collegiate career. He was 81 of 81 in his Junior year and 87 of 88 in his Senior year. Just stating that he missed 5 XPA's is misleading. Meanwhile, Zane Gonzalez has made 33 of 35 attempts in his NFL career, meaning he has missed just one less XPA attempts in 280 fewer attempts. He has also missed 3 more XPA's in the last two years in 134 fewer attempts. Yep, should have kept Zane and Dorsey is a dummy. lol, please tell me where I said to keep Zane or Joseph. Good luck, you won't find it. We drafted a guy that in his career made only 53% of his field goals over 40 yards. He's even worse if you get rid of his freshman year's stats. Forgive me if I don't think this guy falls into "Anything is better than.....Gonzo.....Joseph....."
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To be clear, Austin Seibert has made 310 of 315 XPA's in his collegiate career. He was 81 of 81 in his Junior year and 87 of 88 in his Senior year. Just stating that he missed 5 XPA's is misleading. Meanwhile, Zane Gonzalez has made 33 of 35 attempts in his NFL career, meaning he has missed just one less XPA attempts in 280 fewer attempts. He has also missed 3 more XPA's in the last two years in 134 fewer attempts. Yep, should have kept Zane and Dorsey is a dummy. lol, please tell me where I said to keep Zane or Joseph. Good luck, you won't find it. We drafted a guy that in his career made only 53% of his field goals over 40 yards. He's even worse if you get rid of his freshman year's stats. Forgive me if I don't think this guy falls into "Anything is better than.....Gonzo.....Joseph....." I think you misrepresented the stats when you brought up the 5 misses. I have no idea if this guy is good or not, but I'll wait and see how he pans out.
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Fair, I was making a point that he's not perfect either.
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Lets see Siebert made 310/315 XPS in college for 98.4% Gonzalez made 204/209 XPS in college for 97.6% Seibert made 63/79 FGS in college for 79.7% with a long of 51 Gonzalez made 96/116 FGS in college for 82.8% with a long of 59 Seibert made 10/18 from 40 yards or more for 55.5% Gonzalez made 27/41 from 40 yards or more for 65.9% Yeah, Seibert is clearly the better Kicker. 
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Let's see.............I never said he was clearly the better kicker. Quote me if I did.
I only pointed out that the 5 misses wasn't a great stat.
Now, kiss my butt.
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Yep, should have kept Zane and Dorsey is a dummy. crazy No you didn't directly say it you only inferred it. So kiss your own butt.
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Taking the totality of a college player's stats is the opposite of taking a complete picture.
How did the player develop? Did he improve from year to year? Did he become more capable as he developed?
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Some people will take an opposite position no matter the circumstances or evidence.
Gonzales was not a very good NFL kicker, and cost the Browns wins.
Joseph was better, but not exactly picture perfect. Quite a few knuckleballs that went through.
I understand why a kicker was drafted, and will hope for position improvement..
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I said this:
I have no idea if this guy is good or not, but I'll wait and see how he pans out.
Kiss my butt.
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I said this:
I have no idea if this guy is good or not, but I'll wait and see how he pans out.
Kiss my butt. You really just ask for it, don’t you?
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You also made the statement I quoted or did you have a memory lapse?
Again kiss your own butt.
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He put words into my mouth. I clearly stated that I didn't know if the dude was good or not.
If you don't like my response, you can ........well, you know...
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You also made the statement I quoted or did you have a memory lapse?
Again kiss your own butt. So, you are going to ignore the entire message and concentrate on one thing that isn't all that clear to begin with? I respect that you don't like the pick, but I could care less if it upsets you that I am going to wait and see how this guy does before making any long-term evaluations.
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