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I didn't know that. Thanks.

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I didn't know that. Thanks.


Welcome. Good signing for the Rams...I believe. Blake B. has officially acknowledged that he's no longer a starter in the league.

I'd be on-board with a Sam B. signing. Not sure he's come to the non-starter realization though.

My issue with Stanton is that he should be #3. That means that #2 probably has to be a guy who can actually PLAY (a vet with live game experience like BB or SB) more-so than a guy who is 'developmental'.

I'm rather uneasy about the backup QB spot at the moment. Stanton has won games in relief before and he's played a fair amount in the league. Maybe the org is comfortable with him as the backup. Hopefully we won't see any backup QBs after the pre-season.

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That's a good take and almost exactly how I feel.

Obviously, the backup qb spot is not even an issue if Baker plays all year. I'm hoping he does because he played very well last year and should get even better.

I do think we have enough offensive talent to still be very good if we have at least competent qb play. I'm just not very confident if our two backups can play competently.

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Bradford certainly appears to have nothing left.

He was cut by Arizona last season, and sat home for the whole rest of the year. He is a walking IR report. He is also ... somehow ... always been expensive.


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McCown is basically retired.

Garrett Gilbert should be adequate. None of the other available options are that great at this point.

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Garrett Gilbert should be adequate. None of the other available options are that great at this point.



This is my thought at the moment. I understand the need for the back-up QB, but I'm not overly concerned at the moment. Come August I might feel different.

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Why do you think Gilbert is adequate?

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Why do you think Gilbert is adequate?


He was the best QB in the AAF. He has been in the league for awhile. He is not Drew Stanton.

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Our best bet for a backup is fresh legged rookies. Vet we got and a good mentor he does have experience and has won games meaning he can hand the ball off and hopefully our Defense can win the games but he would carry out a mistake free game and NOT LOSE IT.

Me I still say we should use a late round pick and take the kid from Wash. State. Minshew

He is like a replica of Baker just not as good but very similar. My point being that we would not have to change the offense in the case he has to come in a game or two while Baker healed from something.

He is very accurate not nearly as strong armed as Baker but he would be the very perfect backup QB if I was building a team.

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Why do you think Gilbert is adequate?


He was the best QB in the AAF. He has been in the league for awhile. He is not Drew Stanton.


LOL,, Ok, he's not Drew Stanton. Wow, that can't really be an answer.. can it?

The other parts of your response are cool


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Backup QB?

The Giants just drafted one with the 6th pick.
What a blown pick. He’d have been the 5th or 6th QB taken last year.


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Backup QB?

The Giants just drafted one with the 6th pick.
What a blown pick. He’d have been the 5th or 6th QB taken last year.


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I haven't seen enough of Minshew to really have an opinion on him as a QB. But to find a kid with a similar style to Baker makes all the sense in the world. Too often we've had QB's with totally different styles and when one would go down the playbook simply didn't work well for the back up.

QB's with similar styles allows you to simply remove the plays that the back up can't execute and carry on with the rest of your playbook.


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Maybe there is a former Browns' Quarterback from years gone by, which would fit the bill, oh well, didn't give this much thought.

I guess I was trying to say, I feel, Thaddeus Lewis, from 8 years ago, whenever he last played for the Browns, (and almost beat the Stillers in a night game,) would make a good backup, today, ... of course this doesn't exist.

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Too bad we didn't keep Tyrod Taylor. He accepted a backup role somewhere else. I think I know why he didn't want to remain here.

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Too bad we didn't keep Tyrod Taylor. He accepted a backup role somewhere else. I think I know why he didn't want to remain here.


Because he figured Rivers was more likely to retire soon than Baker, and he knew he wasn't gonna beat Baker out for the job?


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It generally isn't a good idea to keep the former starting QB as your back-up. I just don't think it is a good set-up towards having good chemistry.

That isn't knocking anybody, it's just my opinion.


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So I am sitting here dying to know who big #4 would be. Extra camp arm probably.

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It generally isn't a good idea to keep the former starting QB as your back-up. I just don't think it is a good set-up towards having good chemistry.

That isn't knocking anybody, it's just my opinion.


Depends on the individuals involved.


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j/c:

The backup qb is the biggest concern I have on this team. QBs get hurt.

This offense is loaded and it could still be very good if we simply had an adequate backup. I do not have much faith in our current backups.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
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The backup qb is the biggest concern I have on this team. QBs get hurt.

This offense is loaded and it could still be very good if we simply had an adequate backup. I do not have much faith in our current backups.


At this point, what do we have.

Baker of course, Stanton and Gilbert,, have we added any camp fodder recently?


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No, not yet.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
No, not yet.


I'm pretty sure they'll add at least one UDFA.

But of all the FA's out there, who would be a good pick up.,

I just looked at the list and man, there isn't much there to pick from..

Bridgewater maybe (is he still available)


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j/c...

I don't think he would be ready yet. But I like the possibility of Brough being our future Back up.

Look any team who Loses a legitimate Franchise QB will be in trouble.

Those teams that can continue to win while they wait for the starter to come back and be ready for the playoffs.

The only way is if our Defense dominates and we can win the game of Special teams and field position with a reliable FG kicker and who knows with the talent we got score several TDs without Baker. That is the key for us having a back up. Don't wish to see Brough in there but as long as he doesn't make mistakes and turnsover the ball. We got some great talent to carry the lode. I see talent in the kid to create something and be accurate if not pressured and when teams bring on the pressure he seems to have a very good mobility talent to get away and make the team pay for that pressure.

Also our running game could take over the lode and if they go all out to stop the run...all the better for some play action.

Don't forget Stanton I believe has a winning record as backup QB stepping in. This might be the most talented team he ever would lead. So although I view Baker as one of the toughest kid I've ever seen play the position. He took on some nasty pay back hits in college and I thought Oh shoot he is out, I was amazed how he shook it off and continued his play.

The only thing we have to watch out for is teams HEAD HUNTING as even if he doesn't get a concussion he might be out a series or two because of the protocol set up.

But Baker is one of those kids that might not miss a snap for 10 years!

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Cue up the crfs15 Stanton slam...

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No, not yet.


thought we signed some UDFA from a big ten school Bloughe or something like that


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
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The backup qb is the biggest concern I have on this team. QBs get hurt.

This offense is loaded and it could still be very good if we simply had an adequate backup. I do not have much faith in our current backups.


It's kind of crazy that this is our biggest concern.

We're worried about our backup QB. A guy who will hopefully never see the field.

How many other teams can say that?

After so many years of having practically everything to worry about, it is a little surreal.


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No, not yet.


thought we signed some UDFA from a big ten school Bloughe or something like that


Yep, from Purdue.

We have:

Baker
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The backup qb is the biggest concern I have on this team. QBs get hurt.

This offense is loaded and it could still be very good if we simply had an adequate backup. I do not have much faith in our current backups.


It's kind of crazy that this is our biggest concern.

We're worried about our backup QB. A guy who will hopefully never see the field.

How many other teams can say that?

After so many years of having practically everything to worry about, it is a little surreal.


Quite surreal.

This will be the first off-season/season in memory that I won't spend time looking at other teams' QBs - including practice squads - to see where we might be looking for help. rofl

Here's one I've not read yet here:

I think the Redskins might cut/trade Colt McCoy with both Keenum and Haskins on the roster. How about Colt as a backup here?

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I think the Redskins might cut/trade Colt McCoy with both Keenum and Haskins on the roster. How about Colt as a backup here?


I don't think Colt's ever been quite right since he messed up his shoulder in college. Already 32 and not a ton of upside. Not the worst idea, but wouldn't really move the needle for me.


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Colt McCoy’s leg is all jacked up because Washington tried to rush him back from the injury.

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It generally isn't a good idea to keep the former starting QB as your back-up. I just don't think it is a good set-up towards having good chemistry.

That isn't knocking anybody, it's just my opinion.


Depends on the individuals involved.



That's why I said it generally isn't a good idea. I don't think Dorsey offered him, so he didn't feel it was a good idea to keep TT around.


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Blough is a PS candidate IMO ... I wanted Minshaw to be honest


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Wonder if Kosar is busy?

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Wonder if Kosar is busy?


No, he has diminishing physical skills since the Deron Cherry hit he took against Kansas City.

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