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The WH is silent on antiVac’rs Trump is not fulfilling his oath of office. He is not protecting American’s. He protects his business interests but not Americans. He supports and props up Russian communists and their dictator. He sits with Asian dictators and proclaims his love to them. He emboldens domestic white supremacists and radical fascists to violence in the USA. He emboldens the rapists, abusers, and child molesters with his well known past deplorable behavior that he’s gotten away with.
Under his watch illegal immigration has nearly doubled despite the many billions of dollars he has gotten for border security and the thousands of troops and other personnel he has sent to the border.
He has failed miserably to protect American’s
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At what point during this deranged rant did you pretend to even try and make a coherent point? We are all now dumber for having read this trash.
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At what point during this deranged rant did you pretend to even try and make a coherent point? We are all now dumber for having read this trash. Won’t surprise me a bit if my point flies over the head of those who have had their own wool pulled over their eyes. Baaa Baaa
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The WH is silent on antiVac’rs Trump is not fulfilling his oath of office. He is not protecting American’s. He protects his business interests but not Americans. He supports and props up Russian communists and their dictator. He sits with Asian dictators and proclaims his love to them. He emboldens domestic white supremacists and radical fascists to violence in the USA. He emboldens the rapists, abusers, and child molesters with his well known past deplorable behavior that he’s gotten away with.
Under his watch illegal immigration has nearly doubled despite the many billions of dollars he has gotten for border security and the thousands of troops and other personnel he has sent to the border.
He has failed miserably to protect American’s
Most anti vaccers I know are heavily left leaning. Funny, the left screams about science when it pertains to climate change, but cant grasp vaccines and/or gender. . . .
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This is one of the main problems with yourself and the entire left. You're overly emotional and don't like to use logic.
Calm down. Learn to think. Learn to use logic like an adult.
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This is one of the main problems with yourself and the entire left. You're overly emotional and don't like to use logic.
Calm down. Learn to think. Learn to use logic like an adult. Ok I get it now, it’s logical for the entire GOP and trump to allow these anti vac’ers to roam about since you or a few others think most of them are leftists or liberals. Yeah that’s logical. Thank you mr. Spock. And furthermore the problem with the entire right wing sheep herd is they blindly follow and won’t question their dictator/fascist in the oval.
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The WH is silent on antiVac’rs Trump is not fulfilling his oath of office. He is not protecting American’s. He protects his business interests but not Americans. He supports and props up Russian communists and their dictator. He sits with Asian dictators and proclaims his love to them. He emboldens domestic white supremacists and radical fascists to violence in the USA. He emboldens the rapists, abusers, and child molesters with his well known past deplorable behavior that he’s gotten away with.
Under his watch illegal immigration has nearly doubled despite the many billions of dollars he has gotten for border security and the thousands of troops and other personnel he has sent to the border.
He has failed miserably to protect American’s
Most anti vaccers I know are heavily left leaning. Funny, the left screams about science when it pertains to climate change, but cant grasp vaccines and/or gender. . . . Anecdotal because most of the anti vaxxers I know are hyper religious, conspiracy theorist righties.
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Gotta admit, I don't get the whole Anti Vaxer things,,,
What happened in recent years that caused people to suddenly stop believing in our medical community so much so that they would risk the lives of their loved ones.
Makes me wonder what the folks that didn't get a vaccine for Measles are thinking right about now.
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Or the people living with Polio see people not get vaccinated.
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The WH is silent on antiVac’rs Trump is not fulfilling his oath of office. He is not protecting American’s. He protects his business interests but not Americans. He supports and props up Russian communists and their dictator. He sits with Asian dictators and proclaims his love to them. He emboldens domestic white supremacists and radical fascists to violence in the USA. He emboldens the rapists, abusers, and child molesters with his well known past deplorable behavior that he’s gotten away with.
Under his watch illegal immigration has nearly doubled despite the many billions of dollars he has gotten for border security and the thousands of troops and other personnel he has sent to the border.
He has failed miserably to protect American’s
Are you trying to roll about 10 other threads up into one? Because there is really nothing here that isn't being discussed elsewhere.
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Gotta admit, I don't get the whole Anti Vaxer things,,,
What happened in recent years that caused people to suddenly stop believing in our medical community so much so that they would risk the lives of their loved ones.
Makes me wonder what the folks that didn't get a vaccine for Measles are thinking right about now.
They believed a former MTV girl and few crazy websites cause it made them feel "woke"
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I don't see where this has anything to do with who's president. This has been an ongoing legal debate. Not decided by the legislative branch.
It has been a topic of religious freedom in many cases. I understand that Trump sticks his nose in places it doesn't belong but it seems that's something you're against, until now when you seem to be for it.
State's are starting to come to the realization that religious freedom only applies when that freedom can not and should not be allowed to endanger the health and safety of others.
But this is an issue that has existed through many presidencies and not something one should try to lay on the shoulders of Trump.
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State's are starting to come to the realization that religious freedom only applies when that freedom can not and should not be allowed to endanger the health and safety of others. Pretty sure that's always been a thing...
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The WH is silent on antiVac’rs Trump is not fulfilling his oath of office. He is not protecting American’s. He protects his business interests but not Americans. He supports and props up Russian communists and their dictator. He sits with Asian dictators and proclaims his love to them. He emboldens domestic white supremacists and radical fascists to violence in the USA. He emboldens the rapists, abusers, and child molesters with his well known past deplorable behavior that he’s gotten away with.
Under his watch illegal immigration has nearly doubled despite the many billions of dollars he has gotten for border security and the thousands of troops and other personnel he has sent to the border.
He has failed miserably to protect American’s
Most anti vaccers I know are heavily left leaning. Funny, the left screams about science when it pertains to climate change, but cant grasp vaccines and/or gender. . . . Hmmm, most I know are Amish and GOPer religious types. But I do know a few hippie naturalist types too. 80% of the anti vax movement is conspiracy theory driven and definitely not left wing.
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The WH is silent on antiVac’rs Trump is not fulfilling his oath of office. He is not protecting American’s. He protects his business interests but not Americans. He supports and props up Russian communists and their dictator. He sits with Asian dictators and proclaims his love to them. He emboldens domestic white supremacists and radical fascists to violence in the USA. He emboldens the rapists, abusers, and child molesters with his well known past deplorable behavior that he’s gotten away with.
Under his watch illegal immigration has nearly doubled despite the many billions of dollars he has gotten for border security and the thousands of troops and other personnel he has sent to the border.
He has failed miserably to protect American’s
Most anti vaccers I know are heavily left leaning. Funny, the left screams about science when it pertains to climate change, but cant grasp vaccines and/or gender. . . . Anecdotal because most of the anti vaxxers I know are hyper religious, conspiracy theorist righties. Another very rare instance of 100% agreement.
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Military basic training style vaccination stations 4 all!  Problem solved. Do it or be jailed.
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Hmmm, most I know are Amish and GOPer religious types. But I do know a few hippie naturalist types too. 80% of the anti vax movement is conspiracy theory driven and definitely not left wing.
Who are the anti-vaxxers?
Add all the voices together, and even parents who aren't totally convinced of the evidence either way say there's enough opposition to vaccines that they're paying attention.
"I do believe there's too much [evidence] out there," says Lowther, who calls herself a "selective vaccinator." She's not sure vaccines are "as bad" as they're made out to be, but she feels there's some risk — enough that she has chosen to skip a few of the recommended vaccines for her sons Mason, 15, and Micah, 12.
Lowther's got lots of company. Three in four Americans think more research is needed on the safety of vaccines and the risk they pose, according to a 2013 Harris poll commissioned by the National Consumers League.
It's easy to find that perspective anywhere parents congregate. One of the community groups on the popular website BabyCenter features discussions on delaying or rejecting vaccines and boasts 7,500 members and nearly 17,000 posts.
Anti-vaxxers don't fit into just one political mold. Democrat and Republican respondents to a February Pew Research Center poll were about equally likely to say vaccines are safe for children who are healthy. Eighty-nine percent of Republicans and 87 percent of Democrats agreed with that statement.
But they do tend to share some characteristics, like being wealthier and having more formal education, says Mark Sawyer, a pediatric infectious disease specialist in San Diego. It's that group where he sees the most vaccine resistance. Vaccination rates have sunk in mostly white, wealthy neighborhoods in places such as Los Angeles and Orange County.
The measles outbreak this year started in Orange County, when the virus spread at Disneyland. Of the country's 154 confirmed cases, a majority are in California, where the rate of personal belief exemptions from getting vaccinated has more than doubled since 2002.
"The biggest camp by far are the highly educated, mainstream upper-class people who don't reject modern medicine, who go to the doctor, but have gotten on this theme of distrust of the information that's being provided by doctors about vaccines," Sawyer said.
And many of these parents are more than just distrustful. One-third of respondents to the Harris poll said they think vaccines can cause autism, despite the fact that medical experts stress that there are no studies affirming any link between the two.
That leaves doctors shaking their heads.
"You would think highly educated people would be able to step back and look at the claims that are being made, but it's all being run on anecdotes," Sawyer said.
And then there's what he calls the " 'I don't want the government telling me what to do' camp," which includes natural health enthusiasts like Andrade. Many of these folks are among the growing number of homeschoolers, a group that has traditionally included many evangelicals who tend to be politically conservative but is growing more diverse.
John and Diana Thrower homeschooled their four children in suburban St. Louis. The couple stopped vaccinating after fever spiked in their second daughter, Bethany, following a shot.
But years later, when Bethany contracted whooping cough and passed it to her unvaccinated 4-year-old brother Luke, the couple decided it was time to get all four of their kids up to date.
"Luke was 4 years old and he got it really bad ... his lips turned dogerblue, he wasn't breathing," Thrower said. "We saw danger and said 'maybe we're being too prideful and think we know a little more than we ought to know.'" Except for the fact that this article doesn't point to the Amish, the religious types, or hippy naturalists, you just about nailed it.
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Except for the fact that this article doesn't point to the Amish, the religious types, or hippy naturalists, you just about nailed it. Sharing my experiences. And on that I did nail it.
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I did an externship at a Drs office whose clientel was mostly poor black people.
The Dr did homeopathic medicine and traditional western medicine.
There were a lot of anti vaxxers there who wanted homeopathic vaccines (nosodes)
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It’s all happening on trump’s watch. This administration is out of control and can’t even protect American citizens from a virus that was virtually eliminated years ago.
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The WH is silent on antiVac’rs Trump is not fulfilling his oath of office. He is not protecting American’s. He protects his business interests but not Americans. He supports and props up Russian communists and their dictator. He sits with Asian dictators and proclaims his love to them. He emboldens domestic white supremacists and radical fascists to violence in the USA. He emboldens the rapists, abusers, and child molesters with his well known past deplorable behavior that he’s gotten away with.
Under his watch illegal immigration has nearly doubled despite the many billions of dollars he has gotten for border security and the thousands of troops and other personnel he has sent to the border.
He has failed miserably to protect American’s
You know I am no fan of Trump ... but I think it undermines your valid issues with the POTUS when you use any negative news story to bash the man. The anti-vaccine movement/culture has been in place around the planet for more than a decade. That isn't Trump's responsibility.YES - he did make an ignorant tweet in the past questioning vaccination. But he also came out recently supporting vaccination ... Making more of this and trying to paint Trump with it is just a bad look.
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1. What is trump doing about anti vac’rs now that there is a legitimate outbreak?
2. What is trump doing about anti Semitic incidents up 20% in the USA?
3. What is trump doing to stop Russian meddling in our elections?
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2. Nothing
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1. https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/26/politics/donald-trump-measles-vaccines/index.html2. Not the topic. Regardless of how valid. 3. Not the topic. Regardless of how valid. 1.a. What did Obama do for 8 years? 1.b. I am sure the administration is looking at how to get a message out to vaccinate. . . But much like I didn't crucify Obama for Benghazi because it's unrealistic to pin every event of any administration on to the leader just because ... I am not going to pin this on Trump. . . . By all means talk about what we need to do to make the country safer with better education on vaccinations ... but be part of the solution finding rather than finger pointing in this case. JMO
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1. What is trump doing about anti vac’rs now that there is a legitimate outbreak?
2. What is trump doing about anti Semitic incidents up 20% in the USA?
3. What is trump doing to stop Russian meddling in our elections?
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1. Nothing
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You've proven time and again that your posts never add value to a discussion, you are the epitome of a troll. PerfectCircle is a perfect handle for you, as one who is stuck in a perpetual state, with no way out.
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Wow Eve and Florida just added so much to the thread... pot/kettle. Well, considering the amount of unhinged irrational hate you add to every. single. thread. I could say "blah blah" and it would be way more meaningful than your crap.
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Ok, let's bring this around to an intelligent convo, if it's possible. (not sure, probably not)
A LOT of people are into homeopathic medicine. People from all walks of life.
And the topic of homeopathic medicine gets very confusing, because there are a lot homeopathic treatments that work for very many conditions. Some treatments are way more effective than western medicine. I have seen it with my own eyes.
But not for everything.
So then you have the people who want to use it as an alternative for vaccinating. And basically everything. It's a slippery slope.
It's a big thing in that group.
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I believe a lot of folks have called their Doctors on this subject and his/her advice was
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Wow. Years ago,I stated one of the biggest problems with the open border ideas of the left was the diseases illegals would bring into our country. I put up facts from my wife, a virologist, and I stated an epidemic was coming. I was called a racist for my warning.
Congrats lefties. Your sanctuary city, open border, anti vax policies will eventually bring on the population control you all want.
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Wow. Years ago,I stated one of the biggest problems with the open border ideas of the left was the diseases illegals would bring into our country. I put up facts from my wife, a virologist, and I stated an epidemic was coming. I was called a racist for my warning.
Congrats lefties. Your sanctuary city, open border, anti vax policies will eventually bring on the population control you all want. Then why are the GOPer sheep and trump, who controls congress, continue to sit on their collective thumbs and do nothing about our humanity in the Western Hemisphere, and think another war in the Middle East is something we need to get involved with again? More war more death. More American servicemen in harms way. More gold star families for trump to disparage in public. No...building America and protecting American citizens is not as important as building allies with trump’s dictator friends in the Middle East, Russia, and Asia and starting another GOPer controlled war. And once again the Dems will have to deal with the aftermath and credit card charges the GOPers ran up.
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Wow. Years ago,I stated one of the biggest problems with the open border ideas of the left was the diseases illegals would bring into our country. I put up facts from my wife, a virologist, and I stated an epidemic was coming. I was called a racist for my warning.
Congrats lefties. Your sanctuary city, open border, anti vax policies will eventually bring on the population control you all want. Then why are the GOPer sheep and trump, who controls congress, continue to sit on their collective thumbs and do nothing about our humanity in the Western Hemisphere, and think another war in the Middle East is something we need to get involved with again? More war more death. More American servicemen in harms way. More gold star families for trump to disparage in public. No...building America and protecting American citizens is not as important as building allies with trump’s dictator friends in the Middle East, Russia, and Asia and starting another GOPer controlled war. And once again the Dems will have to deal with the aftermath and credit card charges the GOPers ran up. Pick a topic. ADHD kids aren't this scattered. The libs, the media, and the anti Trump rinos are to blame for the illegal immigration problems and the crime and disease they bring. That's what you get for setting up sanctuaries for all and calling everyone opposed a racist.
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Ok, let's bring this around to an intelligent convo, if it's possible. (not sure, probably not)
A LOT of people are into homeopathic medicine. People from all walks of life.
And the topic of homeopathic medicine gets very confusing, because there are a lot homeopathic treatments that work for very many conditions. Some treatments are way more effective than western medicine. I have seen it with my own eyes.
But not for everything.
So then you have the people who want to use it as an alternative for vaccinating. And basically everything. It's a slippery slope.
It's a big thing in that group. You're right but at the end of the day, when someone is asking which essential oil to use for measles, someone needs to step in and stop the idiocy.
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Wow. Years ago,I stated one of the biggest problems with the open border ideas of the left was the diseases illegals would bring into our country. I put up facts from my wife, a virologist, and I stated an epidemic was coming. I was called a racist for my warning.
Congrats lefties. Your sanctuary city, open border, anti vax policies will eventually bring on the population control you all want. You do understand they can track where these cases originated, right? You know doing just a little homework would prevent you from spreading right wing, false disinformation. The CDC said the current outbreaks are connected to travelers who have introduced measles into US communities after traveling to countries where large measles outbreaks are occurring. Last year the CDC confirmed 82 imported cases, the most imported cases reported to the CDC since the disease was eliminated from the country in 2000.
"Measles is still common in many parts of the world, including some countries in Europe, Asia, the Pacific, and Africa. Travelers with measles continue to bring the disease into the U.S.," the CDC said. "Measles can spread when it reaches a community in the U.S. where groups of people are unvaccinated." As for the one receiving so much press at the moment in New York state. New York is still battling measles outbreaks that began last fall. NYC Health, the public health department of New York City, said that, as of Feb 12, officials have confirmed 73 measles cases in the Orthodox Jewish community in Brooklyn since October.
Officials believe that outbreak began when an unvaccinated child contracted the virus in Israel. But you keep doing you. Hopefully now you'll have some clue as to why people make some of the comments they do in concern to your rhetoric.
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