DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus And now the Deep State and Attempted Coup investigation begins...

WAIT A BLOODY MINUTE....Are you suggesting that it's improper for the sitting president not be interested in Russian Meddling in the elections? Is that the insane take you have on this?

Are you saying it's ok for a president to just ignore those threats to our democracy....., SERIOUSLY,.., Is that what you are saying..

How in the hell can you complain about a president wanting to do his job and be informed of something that is a threat to America...

Ignore? If he wasn't directly involve he damn sure agged it on! Russia if you're watching... Enough said.

Here's what Russian collusion sounds AND looks like. This actually happened...not that that will cure the TDS sufferers:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-more-flexibility-russia/

I'm amazed at how the Trump-haters will work to glean dirt on anything Trump while acting oblivious to real, actual actions or crimes.

I wonder how much the Russian-hoax-believers understand how the investigation was created and "approved" by the FISA court. My guess is the staunchest Trump haters on here either have never read up on the issue or simply do not comprehend how the whole thing was born in the first place.

No, the well educated on here know exactly why the FISA warrant was issued and what part the Steele dossier played in it.

Regurgitating Obama on an open mike, again, doesn't deflect from what Mueller's report contains. And regardless of how Fox and Breitbart and Trump might want to spin it, the report is exceptionally damning.

Your well educated have not looked well educated for going on 3 years now.

No Collusion
No Obstruction

Best go after his income taxes or something.

In the meantime, the Inspector Generals report is coming your way, tick tick tick...

It certainly will not be politically damning.

Sure are a lot of calls for impeachment. And damn if that man you love don't keep acting guilty. But hey, the delusional tea seems to be working so drink up and be merry while life is good in your Trumpian bubble.

If you guys could figure out how to bottle this thing going on in your heads, you might be able to use it to get people off those gateway drugs of meth and heroin.

Seems like you have been using too much of both.

White House tells official not to comply with Democratic subpoena over security clearances

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/22/politics/carl-kline-subpoena/index.html

Well, when that sitting President is participating in the creation of a fictitious narrative of Russian meddling...

Here's the thing Daman, if the examples of what Trump did are so obvious, and so there are so many of them, why the need for the Dems to stretch the truth and lie? The Dossier shouldn't have been needed along with witholding from the FISA court the circumstances of it's birth.

I don't take these forums seriously anymore which is why I don't really contribute anymore. But if all this stuff was as obvious as you guys claim to be, the facts could have spoken for themselves. Strozk, Page, Comey, etc never had to pull the stunts they did.

I've said before and I'll say it again. Mueller probably did find something he could have hit Trump with but the actions of the people I named and many more made anything he found completely unprosecutable.

From the beginning you have conflicts of interest with the likes of Strozk and Page, Comey's leaks, Mcabe lying to Congress, presenting fictitious information to support surveillance and search warrants, sending in spies/informants in to the campaign who were then tasked with trying to make Russian connections (i.e entrapment)...


If the Dems keep pushing the Collusion nonsense, they are going to get creamed in 2020. There is nothing good that can come of it for them.

Yet it's funny how everyone knows Russia meddled in our elections and plans to yet again. We all know who they tried to help get elected. And we see just how hard they're trying to prevent that, don't we?

Republicans block $250 million to beef up election security

WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans blocked a Democratic push Wednesday that would have provided $250 million to beef up election security.

The money would have been doled out in grants through the Federal Election Assistance Commission and helped, among other things, replace outdated voting equipment and increase cybersecurity efforts.

But the amendment failed Wednesday on a 50-49 vote, 10 votes shy of the 60 needed for it to pass. The votes fell almost entirely on party lines as only one Republican — Sen. Bob Corker (Tenn.) — voted for the grant.

"The integrity of our elections, which are the foundation of our democracy, should not be a partisan issue," Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), who proposed the amendment, said in a statement. "It is unfortunate that the Senate has followed the same path as House Republicans in blocking the funding our states need to help upgrade their infrastructure and secure our elections."

Last month House Republicans similarly blocked an effort for $380 million to bolster election security efforts.

Congress had allocated $380 million in election security grants in March after intelligence assessments detailed a coordinated and continued effort by Russia to interfere in U.S. elections.

The blocked $250 million would have covered the fiscal year 2019, which starts Oct. 1, just ahead of the midterm elections.

Republicans have argued it is too soon to allocate new money for the following year and want to see how states use the $380 million already set aside for election security efforts.

In 2016, Russian hackers tried to breach election systems in at least 21 states but likely scanned systems in all 50 states, according to homeland security officials. Although no actual votes were changed, hackers broke into Illinois' voter registration database and stole some information.

Russia also mounted a major effort in 2016 to influence the U.S. election through the use of social media on Facebook, Twitter and Google.

Russian troll farms created fake social media accounts and websites to try to sow dissent among Americans on divisive issues such as race, gay rights, gun control, and religion.

Last month, 12 Russian military intelligence officers were indicted by special counsel Robert Mueller in a far-reaching hacking scheme that targeted the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton presidential campaign as part of the Kremlin's effort to undermine the 2016 election.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...rity/884438002/

They may not be working hand in hand with Russia, but they sure don't seem to want to try and stop them very much.

Rep says Mueller report shows Steele dossier ‘false and fake,’ challenging origins of FBI probe

“Trey Gowdy and I -- I think -- were the only two Republicans that had the opportunity to see that probable cause evidence, to see all of those FISA applications in unredacted form and they centered around something called the Steele dossier which was entirely false and fake, and now Bob Mueller says it was false and fake,” Ratcliffe said.

He added: "Now, to be fair, just because Bob Mueller found that there was no evidence of a conspiracy or no evidence of collusion, doesn't mean that there couldn't be probable cause to look for it."

Still, Ratcliffe said officials at the Justice Department like former FBI director Jim Comey, former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe and former deputy attorney general Sally Yates have "got some explaining to do."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep-say...ns-of-fbi-probe

Ruht Roe

If that was the only source of information that started the Mueller probe, you might have a point. But it wasn't and you don't.

From your own source. "Now, to be fair, just because Bob Mueller found that there was no evidence of a conspiracy or no evidence of collusion, doesn't mean that there couldn't be probable cause to look for it."

Try again grasshopper.

F.B.I. Sent Investigator Posing as Assistant to Meet With Trump Aide in 2016

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/us/politics/fbi-government-investigator-trump.html

The Times reported that the FBI sent a woman using the alias Azra Turk to meet Papadopoulos at a London bar, where she asked, conspicuously and directly, whether the Trump team was working with Russia.

Spying. Confirmed.

The Hamma is dropping, step by step by step...

Yep an investigation was confirmed. Boo hoo. Talk about snowflakes. The FBI doesn’t spy.

Sorry, you are wrong again.

An investigation- the action of investigating something or someone; formal or systematic examination or research.

Spying- work for a government or other organization by secretly collecting information about enemies or competitors.

The FBI sent a woman using the alias Azra Turk to meet Papadopoulos at a London bar, where she asked, conspicuously and directly, whether the Trump team was working with Russia.

That is spying.

When you surround yourself with people who end up indicted and in prison you will sometimes have someone being investigated within your circle. The problem is you're trying to label a legal investigation as spying Mr. Barr.... I mean 40cent.

j/c:

Trump says he will declassify 'everything' about warrants Obama used to spy on his campaign as he suggests James Comey was 'leading the effort' and the scandal will be 'bigger than WATERGATE'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...y-campaign.html

But won't release his tax returns. lmao

That's Big!

That's Petty.

Since we haven't seen anything but a headline and accusations, it isn't big. It might be but we don't know yet.

And the release of his taxes? Yeah, any time people hold Trump accountable to live up to the same standard of every president of the past 50 years people claim it's petty. I mean when they want special rules for Trump.

like he promised tax cuts for the middle class before the mid terms?

They're trying to act like anyone can believe anything the man who has lied to them over 10,000 times has to say.

right. dude has said so much crap, ill wait til it actually happens.

The Deep State, organizations that make people disappear, yep they plotted a Russian conspiracy slow moving coup d'etat against Trump instead of JFKing him... You will believe anything.

When you attack every law enforcement agency and everyone who questions you by calling them names and criminals, you have to come up with some far fetched conspiracy theory to make excuses for why you're doing that.

Yet that's exactly what they tried (a soft coup). It was brilliant and evil.

I'm thinking "Just JFKing him" would have been too obvious and also too vulgar a display of power. IMHO

A "soft coup"?

You can't grasp that so many of you can't come up with any logical explanation for Trumps border line illegal behavior and acting like a child so you come up with some far fetched conspiracy theory to try and blame everyone else ho sees him for what he is.

His constant lying, refusing to divest his business interests, his claim that the reason he can't release his axes is because he's been under audit for "three years"? When it comes to the emolument clause you seem to act as though it isn't part of the constitution and as though it doesn't exist.

You love the constitution when you want to point out your right to bear arms, as i do. But when it comes o the emoluments clause you ignore the constitution. "Selective Constitutionalist".

It's always somebody elses fault you helped elect a scum bag.

Borderline illegal? Trump crosses that border daily.

Over 500 former prosecutors agree.

To me? The conspiracy theory was that Trump colluded with the Russians to get elected. I wasn't surprised when it turned out not to be true.

I didn't help get him elected either, didn't vote for him nor Hillary. What a choice (sarcasm)!

Have a good evening.

then you helped

I think it's quite naive to think you can publicly ask Russia to find/hack e-mails of your opponents and meet with a Russian operative to get dirt on your opponent and not expect an investigation.

Just because you can't accomplish what you attempted to do because you suck at it isn't a reason not to try and find out if you succeeded.

I think it's quite naive to have believed the Fake News that Trump Colluded with the Russians to get elected.

But it didn't stop some on here from looking like fools after 3 years of tears.

Those who look like fools are those that believe Trump and those around him who made it look like they were doing everything in their power to collude didn't deserve to be investigated in the first place.

Hillary can't let it go and neither can her minions!

Watch the hammer fall