Kitchens will get at least 2 years of a free ride towards expectations and success.
After that who knows.
Although I think he is NFL ready as a HC. He has assembled a very good staff and although he might be making all the play calls. He will be "MANAGING" the team while we have an experienced OC to teach and run the practice for the execution of our play book.
Kitchens looks to be in control. Looks to be very fit as he lost some of that belly that he had. Definitely spent a lot of time at the Practice facility working out and watching film.
He seems to have a very comfortable Locker room but definitely respect from all the coaches and players.
Has a good work relationship with Dorsey.
This was Dorsey's pick for HC he will stick by his guy unless he turns out to be totally incompetent. But Freddie is ready to be HC and qualified. He will not be micromanaging but the team is going to take on the personality of his well as laid back as possible. He is cunning and very knowledgeable on the game and its game plans on O, D and ST.
He will be low key and Southern drawl but don't cross him he is sure of himself and won't take crapolla from anyone.
He can take a joke but he won't show any leeway on who runs the team! Love the guy more n more and looking how he is involved with the team to get them to reach their peaks of prowess.
We won't have a bad record and we will win now because he is good. But we still will have patience with him cause he is the right guy again unless it is obvious that he is in over his head. But so far so good.
My only worry is key injuries.
jmho
Defense wins championships. Watson play your butt off! Go Browns! CHRIST HAS RISEN! GM Strong! & Stay safe everyone!
lol well it certainly wasn't those DBs or WRs who picked that song
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
The results when he took control of the offense was no accident.
That gained the confidence of the team.
Dorsey has his back and they have assembled was appears to be a competent coaching staff.
I think it helps that Wilks was a HC and now runs the defense.
Freddie has that good blend of personality. You can joke with him. He is player friendly. At the same time he is no nonsense and fully capable of leading.
I have full confidence that coaching will not be an issue.
They will not be in the way of the talent on this team.
When we reach that point where we line up; I fear no team.
That does not mean we will win every game. But, it does mean we have the capability to win every game.
I see on display many of the things that have been said about Freddie leading up to his hire as head coach. He's very accessible, there is no pretense to how he relates to people. He had some great little witticisms about how individuals become teams. If "it" is a combination of humility and confidence then Freddis has that.
I love the guy. What he is saying is the way to be great. I hope the players see that, and buy in. With the talent on this team, if they truly work together selflessly, things are going to be great.
Confirms for me what I believe we have in Freddie.
A guy based in "prove it." Prove yourself as players and coaches. Nothing counts but what a team accomplishes. Players may chase stats but nothing brings satisfaction like winning.
Freddie imo is the right guy. I am glad that Dorsey had the guts to look at what was the right thing to do and not to base a decision like this on what may have pleased others.
IMO.. I think they both need each other to succeed. I find it very hard to believe that Dorsey operated this draft in a vacuum. I would like to think that Dorsey and Freddie had long talks about the team, the talent on the team and what they want to do scheme wise. I really doubt Freddie is winging this by himself. In addition the hires at DC and OC tell me that he is being given the tools to win.
I am sure he seeks input from scouting, coaching, and analytics to set the draft board.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
LOL,, Freddie hasn't coached a game yet and someone asked how much rope he has?
I get your point but I gotta have fun with that comment.
Freddie has done absolutely nothing to warrant that question yet. Yet!
I've been listening to Freddies pressers and he is clearly the most genuine person to coach this team since maybe Paul Brown. Just a straight shooter with a clear mind and it appears, only one agenda,, to win.
I can live with that
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
The Cleveland Browns, lauded by those familiar with the history of professional football, carry a rich tradition with them.
Just look at the team name: Browns, chosen as a reflection of the franchise's first coach, Hall of Famer Paul Brown.
That storied history has been lost on a significant portion of the current generation of athletes. That's something the organization is attempting to change, starting with its new crop of rookies.
The Browns welcomed back former stars Bernie Kosar, Webster Slaughter, Eric Metcalf, Earnest Byner, Kevin Mack and of course, Pro Football Hall of Famer Jim Brown on Thursday, and gave the new arrivals a chance to get familiar with the franchise's legends during its rookie dinner.
"(General manager) John (Dorsey) and I wanted them to see what it was to be a Cleveland Brown and what it meant to the city and take it from experience that somebody had already had," Browns coach Freddie Kitchens said Friday. "I think it went really well."
Dorsey holds a special appreciation for football history, so much that he's spent his last two mornings after the NFL draft at the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He's passionate about the game's past, present and future, making it even easier for him to see the importance of educating his organization's newest arrivals on the gravity of the franchise for which they're suiting up.
As a result, the staff has made an effort to educate the entire team on the history of the franchise, which was founded in 1946 as a member of the All-America Football Conference and won eight championships in its first 19 seasons.
"Definitely with the rookies. We even did it with the veterans," Kitchens said of the history lesson given to his players. "Our first team meeting, we showed them a video of what the Browns meant to the city and what the Browns mean to the NFL in general and some of the good times that Cleveland has had in the past. When you talk about three AFC Championships (appearances) in the '80s, just knowing what those guys went through to get there, hopefully, our guys can feed off of that some. I know it doesn’t hurt to be able to communicate with those guys to show them what could happen and the potential of happening."
It likely helped that the stars of those 1980s teams were in the building Thursday to meet with the rookies. It definitely landed on one undrafted free agent signee, receiver Dorian Baker.
"I just told y'all I'm a Browns fan!" Baker, a Cleveland Heights native, told reporters Saturday when asked if he was aware of the significance of his No. 19 jersey. "I'm blessed, it's an opportunity I get to showcase (Kosar's) number, hopefully I get it for the season. I'm blessed to be representing his number right now."
Baker grew up as a fan of the Browns and mentioned his uncle has been a season-ticket member for the last decade or so. He said it was easy to decide where to sign after the conclusion of the draft.
"I got this call and I immediately took it," Baker said. "It was the first one -- welcome to the Browns."
Should Baker stick with the team long enough, perhaps he can help educate his fellow Browns on the team's history. After all, they won't have to look too far for a former star to help tell them about the wonderful past with a bright future awaiting them just around the corner.
I agree Daman. Freddie is WAY more bearable than Shurmur, Hue, Mangini, etc. I get the sense that he is who he is.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
I agree Daman. Freddie is WAY more bearable than Shurmur, Hue, Mangini, etc. I get the sense that he is who he is.
I agree. Those other guys were fake. Freddie is a salt of the earth type guy. That doesn't mean he will do any better, but at least I can like him.
My Mom was born in Alabama. Every year until I was 16, Mom would pack us kids up and we would spend the summer at the grandparents farm. I spent the summers of my youth with guys like Freddie Kitchens.
It feels very comfortable.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Maybe some day Shurmur could be a good HC. I have no idea how he got a second job as HC. He was way in over his head here. I still have nightmares about the defense not being set or ready and the Bengals embarrassing us on a touchdown toss with our guys looking around wondering what happened. You get embarrassed by the bengals you should be fired on the spot.
There is a thing about food that makes you feel good.. That kind of food is referred to as "Comfort Food".. Freddie is the Coaching equal to comfort food.
Another thing, he doesn't take himself so seriously. He just speaks his mind. Not a Bragger but he appears confident.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
One of my favorite quotes from Kitchens’ presser (in speaking about Hunt): “The rearview mirror is a lot smaller than the windshield. I’d rather focus on the windshield than look in the rearview mirror.”
One of my favorite quotes from Kitchens’ presser (in speaking about Hunt): “The rearview mirror is a lot smaller than the windshield. I’d rather focus on the windshield than look in the rearview mirror.”
In discussing the decision to draft Greedy Williams on Friday night, Browns coach Freddie Kitchens uttered two simple sentences that shows how much he gets it. "From a team perspective," he said, "this is a pass-oriented league. You need to be able to throw the ball and you need to be able to stop people from throwing the ball." Despite ample evidence, you rarely hear that sentiment expressed directly from coaches and executives, many of whom still claim the opposite: that winning is about running the ball and stopping the run.
In discussing the decision to draft Greedy Williams on Friday night, Browns coach Freddie Kitchens uttered two simple sentences that shows how much he gets it. "From a team perspective," he said, "this is a pass-oriented league. You need to be able to throw the ball and you need to be able to stop people from throwing the ball." Despite ample evidence, you rarely hear that sentiment expressed directly from coaches and executives, many of whom still claim the opposite: that winning is about running the ball and stopping the run.
In discussing the decision to draft Greedy Williams on Friday night, Browns coach Freddie Kitchens uttered two simple sentences that shows how much he gets it. "From a team perspective," he said, "this is a pass-oriented league. You need to be able to throw the ball and you need to be able to stop people from throwing the ball." Despite ample evidence, you rarely hear that sentiment expressed directly from coaches and executives, many of whom still claim the opposite: that winning is about running the ball and stopping the run.
In discussing the decision to draft Greedy Williams on Friday night, Browns coach Freddie Kitchens uttered two simple sentences that shows how much he gets it. "From a team perspective," he said, "this is a pass-oriented league. You need to be able to throw the ball and you need to be able to stop people from throwing the ball." Despite ample evidence, you rarely hear that sentiment expressed directly from coaches and executives, many of whom still claim the opposite: that winning is about running the ball and stopping the run.
There's a lot to like about Freddie. And there are a lot of things we just don't know about yet. I think some already like and see what they've already heard and seen. And yes, there is still the unknown. I do have confidence he can do the job. Will he be great? We'll have to wait and see. I also think if he fails like so many of our past head coaches, I wouldn't have issue with someone calling him out or calling for his head. I think he can handle it. And I think if he's worth his salt as a coach, we will go on to do great things.
In discussing the decision to draft Greedy Williams on Friday night, Browns coach Freddie Kitchens uttered two simple sentences that shows how much he gets it. "From a team perspective," he said, "this is a pass-oriented league. You need to be able to throw the ball and you need to be able to stop people from throwing the ball." Despite ample evidence, you rarely hear that sentiment expressed directly from coaches and executives, many of whom still claim the opposite: that winning is about running the ball and stopping the run.
In discussing the decision to draft Greedy Williams on Friday night, Browns coach Freddie Kitchens uttered two simple sentences that shows how much he gets it. "From a team perspective," he said, "this is a pass-oriented league. You need to be able to throw the ball and you need to be able to stop people from throwing the ball." Despite ample evidence, you rarely hear that sentiment expressed directly from coaches and executives, many of whom still claim the opposite: that winning is about running the ball and stopping the run.
It's nice to have a head coach who can acknowledge plain reality.
I wonder if we can apply this to other aspects of coaching as well. For example, I have long had the opinion that 4th down strategy in the NFL is cowardly and shamefully inept. Most of us who are good with numbers and follow any analytics whatsoever know that coaches would improve their teams' chances by being more aggressive on 4th downs.
Will Freddie be the one to smash through that barrier? I think he has the intelligence and "I don't give a hoot what you think" gusto to be the one to do it, but will he? Someone's going to get that competitive advantage-- it might as well be the Browns.
Kitchens will get at least 2 years of a free ride towards expectations and success.
After that who knows.
Although I think he is NFL ready as a HC. He has assembled a very good staff and although he might be making all the play calls. He will be "MANAGING" the team while we have an experienced OC to teach and run the practice for the execution of our play book.
Kitchens looks to be in control. Looks to be very fit as he lost some of that belly that he had. Definitely spent a lot of time at the Practice facility working out and watching film.
He seems to have a very comfortable Locker room but definitely respect from all the coaches and players.
Has a good work relationship with Dorsey.
This was Dorsey's pick for HC he will stick by his guy unless he turns out to be totally incompetent. But Freddie is ready to be HC and qualified. He will not be micromanaging but the team is going to take on the personality of his well as laid back as possible. He is cunning and very knowledgeable on the game and its game plans on O, D and ST.
He will be low key and Southern drawl but don't cross him he is sure of himself and won't take crapolla from anyone.
He can take a joke but he won't show any leeway on who runs the team! Love the guy more n more and looking how he is involved with the team to get them to reach their peaks of prowess.
We won't have a bad record and we will win now because he is good. But we still will have patience with him cause he is the right guy again unless it is obvious that he is in over his head. But so far so good.
My only worry is key injuries.
jmho
He might get two years. If we win a decent number of games and look like a well-organized team. If the wheels come flying off then I don't see Dorsey as being THAT patient. We have a lot of new faces and a new coaching staff. Some big egos in the locker room. I have the feeling this is either going to be an especially great season or it's going to blow up in their faces... Either way, it will be must-see TV. Everyone is watching now. That's a lot of pressure...
In our division, you better be able to run the football. Yes, it's a passing league but the run game is not even close to being obsolete. The Rams made the SB with a pretty decent run game. Beast mode plus LOB got Seattle to two SB's and won them one. Let's just say I'm glad we have Chub. I'd love to see him get 1300+ yards rushing and double digit TD's. We had a really good mix of run/pass last year after Kitchens took over. I hope that continues. Having Baker drop back and throw 50 times is not the way to win a SB.
I think you have to be able to run the ball too. It's just that being able to pass the ball is the more important of the two. For almost every team in the league, it is the pass that sets up the run, not the other way around.
The exception in the league I'm thinking of, right now, is Baltimore. The zone read changes things considerably, Harbaugh has shown a willingness to use Jackson heavily as a runner and they built their QB room with this in mind, keeping RG3 and then drafting McSorley.
Beast mode was obviously a big help but it's hard to overlook Russell Wilson as one of the better QBs since he came into the league. Also with the legion of boom, that is largely in the category of stopping the pass, as they often had Earl Thomas playing as a (very) deep safety with Sherman and Browner outside with heavy usage of cover 3. Kam was a big hitter though so there's that.
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