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Wonder what excuse they will make for her this time?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rashida-tlaib-holocaust-calming-feeling-house-gop

Just imagine the Media and these boards if a Conservative Republican was saying the same thing about, well,

ANYBODY

Just imagine the Media and these boards if a Conservative Republican was saying the same thing about, well,

ANYBODY

Yeah I can't imagine Trump being cool with any anti semite...

So I don't like the crap Talib says, but I'll be damned if you get to cast stones at dems from inside your glass house.

Yeah I can't imagine Trump being cool with any anti semite...

Trump welcomes Hungary's far-right nationalist prime minister after past presidents shunned him

You literally do that exact thing, every single day.

Didn't Obama meet with and negotiate with the President of Iran? Where they execute gay people and stone women to death for showing their ankles in public?

Does that mean Obama is cool with that? .. or maybe there was another reason.........

Does that mean Obama is cool with that? .. or maybe there was another reason.........

My house is reinforced shatter proof hurricane glass... wink

So with all these wattabouts that you are accepting the anti semetic left....ok

You mean like David Duke or Matt Gaetz or Louie Gohmert or Paul Gosar? or Kevin McCarthy or Steve Scalise or Steve King or Fredy Burgos? And these are just the anti-semites. Bring in other minorities and I think I'd crash the server with Conservative Republican examples.

Clearly reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. I never said or implied I'm ok with it. I very clearly just responded with examples on the right as well. Nice try

Going to admit my knowledge of the region is not deep. But my understanding is the Palestinians have always been there - and Israel was created after WWII, carved out by the Ally forces that conquered Germany .... From what little I know the guy on the left of screen is either dead wrong or seriously manipulating "Facts" .... happy for someone to educate me.

And what have they said that's antisemitic? I would like to see one quote.

"There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust, and the fact that it was my ancestors — Palestinians — who lost their land and some lost their lives, their livelihood, their human dignity, their existence in many ways, have been wiped out, and some people's passports. And, just all of it was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for Jews, post-the Holocaust, post-the tragedy and the horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time."

It's been a minute since I've seen what anti-semitism talking points are, but I don't think anti-semites consider the Holocaust to be a "tragedy" nor do they support "trying to create a safe haven for Jews". I could be wrong, though. Do you know?

What I do see is that many on the Right attack Muslims because they criticize Israel's policies. To conflate being Jewish with Israel is antisemitic imo.

And what have they said that's antisemitic? I would like to see one quote.

"There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust, and the fact that it was my ancestors — Palestinians — who lost their land and some lost their lives, their livelihood, their human dignity, their existence in many ways, have been wiped out, and some people's passports. And, just all of it was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for Jews, post-the Holocaust, post-the tragedy and the horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time."

It's been a minute since I've seen what anti-semitism talking points are, but I don't think anti-semites consider the Holocaust to be a "tragedy" nor do they support "trying to create a safe haven for Jews". I could be wrong, though. Do you know?

What I do see is that many on the Right attack Muslims because they criticize Israel's policies. To conflate being Jewish with Israel is antisemitic imo.

What if a republican were to say, "There's always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of Wounded Knee", or "the killing fields of Cambodia", or "the assassination of Martin Luther King". I don't care what the statement was followed with or the context in which it was said... you would not be so dismissive.

It'd be as dumb as this analogy. Wounded Knee, Cambodian Genocide, nor MLK's assassination led to any positive changes for any of the communities effected by those outcomes. Your analogy would make sense if she said, "Whenever I think of the Mein Kampf being published, I get a calming feeling." There's a gigantic difference. But hey, if the Assassination of MLK got rid of structural and personal racism, then I would give any Republican a pass in saying such a thing. Obviously the FBI assassinating MLK brings nothing but hate to my mind, but if it fixed racism in America, then yeah, that would calm me down a bit. But this is real life, the assassination of MLK did not fix racism. Wounded Knee did not give American Indians their own land to rule as they see fit. They are acts that continued genocide, they are not acts that ended it.

Also, spare me. People of faith, are always justifying the most horrific things because there might be positive outcome down the line. That's the only way they can justify that a benevolent supreme deity would allow such evil in the world. Just look at the rhetoric around the Alabama abortions. "No abortions, even if the baby was conceived during a rape." Why? Because God has a plan for that child. It's pure idiocy, but I do give people of faith a pass, even though I think one has to be brain dead to think that the Torah, Bible, Qua'ran is anything other than a bunch of codified laws and stories from a group of people who never practiced proper hygiene.

Going to admit my knowledge of the region is not deep. But my understanding is the Palestinians have always been there - and Israel was created after WWII, carved out by the Ally forces that conquered Germany .... From what little I know the guy on the left of screen is either dead wrong or seriously manipulating "Facts" .... happy for someone to educate me.

I don't care what the statement was followed with or the context in which it was said... you would not be so dismissive.

Israel has been there since Abraham. That region has been the homeland of the Jewish people from the beginning of recorded time. Yes, they have been removed from those lands and conquered several times, but they keep retuning. Even with them being removed, there has always been a Jewish presence in the Israel/Jerusalem area. The earliest archeological finds are Jewish. It's always been their land.

Post them. Direct quotes, not spin.

Why even bother with the language if we don't evaluate a statement as a WHOLE statement in it's entirety or more importantly take context into consideration? We might as well grunt at each other if anytime certain words cross our tongues the opposition is going to have an overly emotional gotcha moment.

But I can definitely see how the gasp of the pearl clutching right drowned out the entire statement and it's context when Fox put it's dividing spin on it for y'all.

Welcome to the current state of US media/politics. It's all about hate and gotcha moments. Common sense and context be damned. Don't try and tell me you wouldn't have been all over any republican if they would have made a statement like that. Hence my post.



Yeah, this is a phenomenon unique to the right.

Wrong. The Jews were conquered multiple times and enslaved, relocate, nomadic... The earliest archaeological finds were in caves in that part of the world and I've never heard of a Jewish caveman, have you?

Yes the Jews were present there in Biblical times if you believe the Bible, which on this topic there is no reason not to believe it; but that hardly equates to the beginning of time or 'always'. Additionally, once conquered they had no legitimate claims to the land and the Jews there today or that resettled there at the creation of Israel were from all over the world integrated into other societies. What 'right' did they have to that land prior to the creation of modern Israel? None.

So let's not act like either side is any more or less entitled to live there based on history. The Palestinians got hosed as the current occupants when the rest of the world agreed to give the Jews a country of their own. That's just the plain TRUTH.

Israel has been there since Abraham. That region has been the homeland of the Jewish people from the beginning of recorded time. Yes, they have been removed from those lands and conquered several times, but they keep retuning. Even with them being removed, there has always been a Jewish presence in the Israel/Jerusalem area. The earliest archeological finds are Jewish. It's always been their land.