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I have no issues with that because many kids/women are better off without the deadbeat dads being in their lives. All I will say is that if he contributes his genetic material, making conception a possible outcome, then financial responsibility should be the price until our society allows those without financial resources to survive and thrive on their own as children.

If you as a man don't want to pay after the fact, then you should have a contractual relationship where you pay up front for what you receive or are named a donor participant with no further rights to the consequences. Either way you should pay to play because she has no other option.

Here- let's fix this a litle bit, shall we?



Now that looks more correct.

Pence isn't being ridiculed due to his Christianity, but rather his hypocrisy.

No killing. So you can throw that trash argument into the bin with many of your other absurd daily arguments.

Less ‘injurious’ than being circumcised. In most western societies we cut a male baby shortly after birth without much thought. So take your injury concerns elsewhere.

Vasectomies are reversible.

Ultimately I feel strongly that this measure would be the most effective means we could take to end unwanted pregnancies. Anything else is just talk and/or a useless action that’ll never eliminate the problem.
You want abortion gone? Name one other measure that would be more effective. (Laws won’t do it. So just stop. It’ll still happen in back alleys. Abstinence education is useless too. So don’t go there.)
Give me one, just one idea that’ll work better.

It takes a lot of courage to be that homophobic will also clearly being in the first closet.

Sure she has options, she can abort, remember?

As if getting an abortion does not exact a price on the woman. She has to live with her decision either way, for life.

Both parties also have the right to utilize contraception, if they aren't ready to make larger decisions.

A lot of perspective

The baby should choose, period.

At six weeks a fetus is about the size of a sweet pea. You are not showing what a fetus looks like at six weeks.

The kid should have the same choice. I mean it is his/her life

Why do so many folks who are for abortion hate seeing pictures of dead babies? Becaue they want to give it a nice non offensive name (abortion) and not realize that they are snuffing out human lives.

They should do a hearing, if the fetus wants to live it should say so.

It also has a tail at that point. But hey, it's a human because???

I agree with that.

But not the fetus.

Cool should we ask it when it is 12 or 18 years old?

Because all humans have tails at 6 weeks old.

Oh there you go again. Hey lets give the baby a cute name like fetus so we don't have to admit the truth that a baby was murdered.

Firstly, I'm not "for abortions". Secondly, I would hope if you're making a point you would try to keep it accurate. That is not what a six week old fetus looks like. It's really that simple.

You supported a candidate that supports women be forced to have those children but gut every program that helps poverty stricken children once they're born.

Let's not pretend that people care about children. They just care that they're born. It's not all one way here.

“Thou shalt not kill.”

Sorry bro but your wrong in my case. I am also for programs that help poverty stricken children once they are born. I care about them before birth and after birth. It's all one way for me. I care about people.

I wasn't speaking about you. I was speaking about the people you voted for. I know you're a good guy who cares. But what you helped put in office does exactly what I said they do. That's why I say the choice isn't as clear cut as some people make it out to be.

BTW six weeks and three days

Then you need to start writing letters and voting for people that object to the death penalty.

Buddy, I don't know how to tell you this, but fetuses don't grow to be 12 or 14 years old...

Thanks for a more accurate portrayal.

I voted for complete idiots who want to protect babies, instead of complete idiots who want to murder babies. There were only two choices.

My pleasure buddy

It's not that simple. Once they're born, they aren't protecting babies. They only protect them until they're born. I struggle with both sides of it myself.

Let's not get emotionally attached to a clump of non-viable cells and call them 'a baby' or 'a human being'... works both ways. I would not expect you to consider the life of cancer cells before getting chemo, or fat cells before getting lipo... so before a clump of cells that can become a baby have the time to actually do that; they are a fetus and just a clump of cells belonging to the body of the female. SO it's her decision alone, not yours, not the dads, not gods, and damn sure not some politician or judges.

Hey your the one who wants to ignore truth and give them a cute name instead of calling them what they are BABIES.

Do you call caterpillars butterflies?

And in what world is fetus a cute name?

“Thou shalt not kill.”

BTW, I don't like or promote abortion but I insist on a woman's right to choose. I wouldn't allow/support anyone to take your right to do with your body what you thought best away either.

I also think there are too many of us crawling around on the planet and we are destroying the future of all life slowly but surely. So I don't feel as strongly that an unborn person has a god given right to be born. I think it's a decision for those who are already here, albeit a tough one.

Have fun telling that to the millions of mothers who have given birth, to those "cells" Have fun telling that to the millions of mothers who grieved and still grieve for the babies who died in a miscarriage.

Now here you go with the cancer cells again Please let me know when cancer cells left alone ever grow into adult human beings. Don't worry I won't be holding my breath.

BTW of course you don't believe they are Gods. You don't believe in God.

YOURS

Never said cancer cells grow into anything but cancer bro, and wasn't trying to make that bit personal, sorry if you took it that way. Just trying to say they are just cells like any other and if they are unwanted they are unwanted.

I know that you yourself don't believe in abortion, and I am glad that you know us disagreeing on this is just what it is " a disagreement" neither of us take it personal or put each other down for our beliefs. We just disagree. You know that. Pit knows that, and some others know that. I hold no ill will toward anybody who disagrees with me on this subject.