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Ok, that was terrible. Was it a joke? Were the writers giving a middle finger to somebody?

I really hope GRRM finishes the books soon... I can't imagine this is the ending he ends up writing...

I don’t think they could have done a worse ending if they tried

He has said that the show ending shouldn't be too far off from the main characters in his books.

Tyrion: the king shall be Bran the Broken

Bran: yeah actually just Bran is cool

Tyrion: Bran the busted up

Bran: ok or -

Tyrion: Bran the wheely wheely legs no feely

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Yeah, I couldn't imagine being called 'Bran the Broken' by your cousin who was addicted to his mom's milks until puberty when he started to hound for your sister.

You got an imp, a knight with 7 fingers, a dude so fat he got disinherited, your incompetent uncle who got his family killed and some nonames who didn't do jack crap for anyone calling you the broken one? And your oldest sister just declared independence in front of everyone? Bran needs to warg into Drogon and let that heater fly. Instead he gonna be stuck to a weirwood tree IV for the next hundred of years just going into the minds of birds all day.

LOL at that visual.

I don't think the episode was that bad, but again, I am more into character development/revelation than I am into violent scenes.

The last scene was brutally contrived though. The show had a problem because there was simply too many things to try and tie together in one last season.

I thought the ending lacked any real excitement.

When the episode first began, it seemed like they were going to tell a story, there seemed to be a direction in which things were leading, then after Jon spoke to Tyrian, it suddenly went to high gear, "let's wrap this up" mode, and there seem to be no real cohesion.

I mean, Jon is imprisoned. Did he turn himself in or confess, did they come to the room, where there is no body, just a pool of blood?

Where was Arya this whole time, Jon was supposed to meet her outside the city gates?

How did Grey Worm get from slaughtering the prisoners, to atop keep when Jon arrived, which they insinuated he was heading there at the time?

This whole thing was sham, and HBO should be ashamed for the way they handle it.

The first half of the finale was amazing, edge of my seat kind of fun. It had the reaction to the slaughter, Dani's speech, Tyrion's death sentence, Jon and Tyrion talking about what must be done and then the throne room scene, which I predicted. All great stuff (although, the dragon melting the throne was a little heavy-handed - "this throne caused too much violence, so therefore, nobody gets it").

From there, it went downhill. There are so many questions/issues.

1. Why would Grey Worn not kill Jon and Tyrion immediately? He's shown killing the last remaining soldiers because “…all enemies of Dani must die” (paraphrasing), but Tyrion and Jon are both kept alive for weeks. Heck, Dani even announced she sentenced Tyrion to death in front of Grey Worm. I suppose he was kept alive for “plot reasons”, but Grey Worm would/should have killed him. And the exchange between Grey Worm and the council was weak too. He refuses to give up Jon, but 15 seconds later he does because they want him to.

2. Again, the melting of the throne. I know it "subverts expectations", but come on. Everyone and their brother have been asking who will sit on the throne to end the series. The answer is nobody. Really? Kind of lame.

3. The comic relief during the council meeting was a waste too. Sansa telling that guy to sit down (and him bumping his sword on the pole) and Samwell suggesting democracy were both not fitting of the situation. Sure, something to lighten the mood, but it just didn’t fit here. Marvel does such a great job of adding humor to everything, but they had super heroes in multi-colored tights, it’s all tongue-in-cheek. Here, I would have rather they kept is serious. Minor nitpick.

4. Bran is the king? He’s a non-talking tree. Heck, even he said a few episodes that he “…doesn’t want anymore.” How can a king rule a kingdom without
"wants"? Meaning, he needs to want peace, prosperity and anything else. You can’t have a king that answers all questions with 4-word riddles. Hey Bran, realm A and realm B are having a problem with each other, what’s your stance on the situation? “I will go now.” Maybe it’s more of a beef with how they handled Bran throughout the series. He’s a one-note character than didn’t do a single thing at the battle of Winterfell. Had he played a bigger role in the Night King’s death and talked more elsewhere, maybe I'd feel different. I would have been okay had they gone the next step and just not given the title to anyone, which leads into my #5.

5. What’s the deal with everyone on the council agreeing to have Bran Stark be their king but Sansa opts out? Wouldn’t everyone else from the other realms do the same (which by the way, would make for a better ending IMO if you're going to destroy the throne)? Heck, Yara was just ticked off about losing Dani as her queen and she also wanted to rule her own lands a while back, wouldn’t she also demand their own freedom just as Sansa? Heck, we end the series with a Stark as the “leader” of the far north, Sansa is a queen of the north, Bran is the king of the 6 realms and Arya is on her way to the west to explore. While Arya may not be searching for new lands to rule, how did all the Stark’s come out on top? How is everyone just okay with that?

Again, first half awesome, second half not so much. My favorite episode of the whole series was S8E5 and the continuation into the finale was near perfect. Overall, the series was “good” for me. I don’t know if I can give it a “very good”.

man, my boy hasn't done crap for 8 seasons with his crippled ass, and then got the thrown?

disabled privilege.

That was the type of ending you'd see at the end of an early season.. not the LAST season.

j/c:

Overall, this episode was pretty disappointing.

What I liked:

1. The scene when Tyrion found Jaime and Cersei.

2. When Dany was walking to the top of the stairs and Drogon's wings opened up behind her...I thought that was a cool visual.

3. The scene between Tyrion and Jon before the "Throne scene".

4. Jon was the one to do it.

Things I didn't like:

1. The special council scene in the dragon pit was a joke. People are voting on the new king, Sansa bows out, and everyone is cool with it? Nope, not buying it....especially with Yara at the table. And grey worm wanting justice is the biggest reason why Jon goes back to the wall? Please.

2. The Small Council scene at the end. Bronn....Master of Coin? Does anyone remember the scene in season 2 or 3 where Tyrion is trying to teach Bronn about interest and has no clue what he is talking about? Nope, not buying it.

3. A book about A Song of Ice and Fire but no reference to Jon Snow? Poor execution. It also reminded me of the "There and Back Again" book scene from Lord of the Rings.

4. Bran on the throne who did absolutely nothing this season? Ugh. What poor delivery of a character all season. Bran's POV in the books is one of may favorites but the "Show Bran" was underwhelming all series long.

5. Whatever happened to Varys' letter to all the families in Westeros about Jon being the true heir to the throne? No pay off or even a serious reference to that point?

I could go on.....The most dissapointing part is Bran on the throne might be how GRRM is ending the books as well.

Ugh...

Yes, that bothered me too. Jon being sent to the Nights Watch, because he killed the queen, but never does his true claim to the throne come into play., wasted storyline.

I really expected that was what Sam was going to say when he stood up and talked about a popular vote instead. /smh

I'd assume the writers, and I'm including George Martin in this because he told HBO the high-level ending of the books, that the bloodline story was used to drive a wedge between Jon and Dani, which eventually caused her to go mad, not so much as it would lead to Jon being the king.

My biggest issue what that whole marathon within the plot, is that Bran probably knew he'd end up being king. If he can see the future, forced Samwell to tell Jon is lineage and even had that "this is why I came along for the ride" comment when accepting the king title, that might mean he orchestrated or executed the plan. Meaning, he allowed ~500,000 people to die so he could be king. Yes, a bit of a stretch in logic, but it's there.

As disappointed as some of you are with the ending of GOT (I wasn't watching), at least you didn't have the screen go black to end it, like "The Sopranos". I remember sitting here after that scene with my palms up, gesturing at my TV, saying "What? ... WHAT? ... WTFIT!?!?". Very annoying.

I'm sorry, but this last season (and part of season 7) was just horribly written.

Like, you could tell how the show was written the last couple of seasons: every character is at point A at the end of the 5th book. GRRM told the writers that each main character ends at point Z, but didn't give the writers all the other points along they way.

So, the TV show ends up going from point A to Z in the shortest route possible in a story that doesn't make much sense to a lot of people.

I understand the writers were put in a bad spot by GRRM not finishing the books, but really, this was the best that professional writers could come up with? They should still be thanking GRRM, because based on what they came up with when the source material ran out, they are not very good. We'll see how their Star Wars movie turns out.

At least for this situation:

(1) There is no prior source material.
(2) They are not Rian Johnson.

meh. It was great when they followed the books to a T.

I am looking forward to His Dark Materials. An adaptation of a fantasy storyline actually FINISHED by its author.

I think they should have used a meteor to flatten and destroy everything, leaving no one alive to take over anything.

As soon as the episode ended, I really didn't know how to feel. But overall, it was a disappointing finale.

1 - How did everyone find out that Jon Snow killed Danaeyrs? An explanation would have been great.
2 - How do they let a prisoner decide who the king is? Makes sense (sarcasm). Not only did he decide who king was, but then changed how kings would forever be selected. smh.
3 - No way in heck Grey Worm doesn't kill Jon Snow after finding out about Danaerys. I just knew as Jon Snow walked to his boat at the end and saw Grey Worm, that Grey Worm was going to throw a spear and kill him. O well.
4 - The Jon Snow is the true heir storyline was so wasted.
5 - I had a strong feeling that Danaerys would die, but seeing her actually die was a sad moment for me. She was a bad chick, and I liked her. She went from practically nothing to the most respected in the land. Her dragon burning the throne, pretty much saying if my 'mom' can't sit on the throne, no one can, was touching. Then flew off with his mom. Sad.
6 - Sansa and Bran to me are selfish as heck. Bran knew he would be king the entire time, kept quiet and let all the madness unravel, then was like nahh Sansa, I do want to be king. lmao. And Sansa wanted the throne SOOOOO bad. Then put a asterisk in everything when she heard all the votes for 'Bran' so she could rule the north herself. Lmao. Then to think of all the things she went through with the Lannister family, especially Cersei, she didn't learn squat from Cersei about being Queen. If you have power, you don't let anyone make decisions about the throne but YOU. The fact she took a bargain and shipped Jon Snow off was laughable. How the heck does Grey Worm have say? Make Jon Snow king! He told you he was the true heir. But yea, you love your 'brother' so much. Same for Bran, as per the Imp, Bran came up with the 'punishment.'

j/c:



They did it again, just this time with a water bottle.

I think they should investigate the plastic water bottle found at the bottom of the Marianias Trench and see if it had a GOT logo on it.

Just so much proof they mailed this season in.

Is that "product placement" or an actual oversight?

Either way, I'm not a fan of it.

Go off King

Boss'n it right here.

Cameron Magruder's stuff is so much fun to watch whether it's GOT, sports, etc.

I'm not even sure about reading the books now as I don't have much interest in investing the time into a series that this guy probably will never finish.

Each book is worth reading even if you don't read all of them. I would suggest starting w/the first book, though.

I will also say that while the final season was disappointing, I have never seen a TV show come even close to what the GOT series did in their several seasons.

I'm late to the party here. Cut the cord years ago and never had the desire to sign up for HBO. When the battle for winterfell hype started, I signed up and watched all 8 seasons over the last 2 months.

While I avoided most spoilers, I heard a lot of bad things, including petitions for them to remake the season. Personally, I didn't think it was that bad. My biggest complaint is the people I hated most didn't die more gruesome deaths.

I had seen headlines that there wasn't a storybook type ending. I was expecting Cercie to fend of the attack and remain queen or Dani becomes the mad queen, kills Jon, Tyrion and any other potential enemy and oppresses the kingdoms.

I was surprised Sam lived. I thought he was going to be season 1 fodder. Jon going back up north with the wildlings seemed fitting. The way they decided king, meh, but it didn't bother me that much. I just take it for what it is I guess.

I didn't have a problem with any one thing, just that they decided it was a good idea to wrap up all these stories in such a short amount of time. Everything felt rushed, nothing felt satisfying, everything felt like it could've been done better.