DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns interested in Gerald McCoy?

no doubt his fit would really make our line complete .. we need that interior presence and another good rotational piece

A DL of Garrett - Richardson - McCoy - Oliver is NASTY to begin with

hmm seems like talks have heated up for us

He'll probably get less than he would have made with the Bucs.

Me too. I remember years back when we acquired Big Daddy Carl Harriston, the dogma was that he was washed up ... not so fast lol

Stupid question...We are running a 4-3 defense this year right?

And he has Baker in his court 2 boot.

Wilks ran a 4-3 last year despite having personnel better suited to the 3-4, so unless there's a cruel twist if irony, he'll use a 4-3 here as well. That's his preference and that's what our personnel is better suited for anyway.

Why McCoy and not Suh?

While I don't know what Dorsey and Kitchens think of Suh, I have read and heard that besides liking McCoy as a player, they value him very highly for his character and the positive presence and leadership he would bring to the locker room. Beyond performance, its a team culture thing.

Or why is Suh still a FA?

Multiple choice:

A), Team fit/personality
B), Holding out for a better deal
C), All of the above
D), Other

I don't think I could have said it better.

With the players we already have, we could rotate the DT's and keep McCoy fresh. I have been leery of saying the word playoffs but if we get McCoy and barring a critical injury... there is no reason we shouldn't make the playoffs and certainly win the division. He isn't the player he once was. However, he is still a good player. Especially, as a role player. A rotational guy.

The first part of this season is going to be a real challenge. Our defense is going to have to carry its share of the load until the offense gets it together. The offense is a new deal this year. Lots of new faces. The line lost a really great guard.

TB cut McCoy and signed Suh. Interesting move. It'd be funny if they just swap teams.

Excellent point. We already have more than a few huge egos in the building. Having a calm character guy who is also a good player could help keep the ship on course. Player vs player I'd choose Suh, but taking everything into account I'd take McCoy every time.

T.B signed Suh? Wow, didn't see that coming, Hope it works out for them.

They had to get rid of McCoy so they could sign their draft picks.

OK, I guess I don't understand how all of these numbers fit together. Bucs only had $13.5 mil in cap room. Projected cap room needed to sign their draft class is $10.3 mil. So they release McCoy and "save" $12.5 mil. Does that create an additional $12.5 in cap room so that they now have $26 mil? About $15.7 mil to pay Suh presumably something less than the total remaining cap amount?

Source, Spotrac

Was this a Trump rally?

Cavs parade?

McCoy's tweet from 2016, admiring the turnout for the Cav's championship parade. Several have resurrected it saying the turnout for a Brown's Super Bowl win would dwarf it.

Are you listening Gerald?

Humor?

McCoy was due $13 million so it would make sense if Suh signed for a good deal less than that.

Free beer fridge unlocked after the Jets win?

Browns Superbowl, and the city shuts down for a week, for a city wide tailgate. For a week before the game.

j/c:

I hope we sign him!

No, that was for Hue's jump in the lake.

I agree, I like Suh, but I do get the team culture thing as mentioned above.

In the early days of the AFL I liked both the Raiders and KC because they had some nasty players.

Maybe it is a character flaw in me, but I like my D to be edge skaters. Not out and out dirty, but maybe just enough to rattle the other team.

Kind of like pitching. I don't want throwing at the head, but keeping it between the shoulders and knee is fine in my book. Today, batters don't even try to get out of the way. They stand there and get hit, then get mad because they got hit.

Suh lollygagged quite a bit last season for the Rams and then turned it on in the playoffs.

I disagree. The Cavs broke the cities curse, that's a huge deal. Plus, the parade for the Cavs was late June. The weather was amazing to be downtown all day. While the Browns are a bigger deal than the Cavs, do you really think more people will show up for the parade in early February? Assuming it snows, that would cut the turnout by half.

I'd enjoy finding out though.

If the Browns win the Super Bowl, I'm driving in from Toledo and getting a room overnight to be at that parade. I routinely avoid going to Cleveland from the end of October to March.

The lake effect makes Northeast Ohio, otherworldly and it only 130 miles from where I live.

No, they are going to watch Sashi's podcast.

If the Browns won the Superbowl, I would not be at the parade. I'd be in Cle partying for the week before the Superbowl. Then fly to where ever it is and go to the game. And then go home.

That's my fantasy and I'm sticking to it.

I agree w/you guys. I don't know if we can even describe the scene if the Browns ever won the Super Bowl.

When the Cavs won I smoked a blunt on a firetruck at Superior and 18th. If the Browns ever won a super bowl, I might just climb terminal tower with a flask of absinthe in my mouth. I can't imagine it. Forget the parade, the night of is where the real party is at.

I would guarantee it.

I think more would show if the Indians won a world series.

Cleveland is a football town first and foremost. The scene would be insane.