DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2019 NFL Season 2019 NFL Draft Browns pick Greedy Williams 46th overall

That usually happens with high first round picks. Not like "drugs high", but ie.... top 10 1st round picks.

Greedy Williams' 4-year deal is worth $6.5 million, including $4.1 million guaranteed

So after taxes he gets 1.9 million guaranteed?

That all changed w/the new rookie salary structure that was started during they structured rookie salaries in the collective bargaining agreement.

And that was 8-9 years ago.

Joe Schobert, I think was the one I looked at, they need to give him the money, err at least appreciate if he's still under 1 million, he's a bargain.
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Umm! Greedy Williams 39.? percentage

and Ward, 40 something the same...

How do Terrance Mitchell and T.J. Carie measure up on this, and I don't mean college, if it's been so long ago.

That's positive

That was a long overdue change. How frustrating was it to have a player hold out of training camp, the preseason, and sometimes even the regular season because the two sides were haggling money or some contract terms? I don't miss that.

no they have retirement fees taxes agent fees etc etc etc about 50% of their guaranteed income goes right back out the door in taxes all over the country.

off the 4.1 million guaranteed. 200k goes to his agent
2 million to taxes
20k to union dues/club fees
another 200k that is taken out in random fees etc

basically, he is getting about 7,500 every week for the next 4 years to use.

not a bad take for kid in his early twenties.

Greedy Williams soaking up Steve Wilks' defensive scheme during OTAs

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/gre...medium=referral


Denzel Ward spoke Wednesday of visions of a cornerback tandem comprised of he and rookie Greedy Williams.

It sounds even more possible after hearing Williams speak about his acclimation to the pro game.

Sure, it's only May and the Browns are working through the instruction-laden organized team activities period, but Williams isn't flummoxed by the defensive scheme of coordinator Steve Wilks. The reason? He's been devouring tape every morning before practice.

"In college, me and my coach, we always were at it in the film room, so I kind of understood more in the film room," Williams said during an appearance on Cleveland Browns Daily this week. "Just coming here and just translating that over, me and (defensive backs) coach (Dewayne Walker), we in there every morning, 6:45, we in there every morning. We're just talking football the whole time, probably like a good 45 minutes of straight football. That helped me out very well and I picked up on the playbook pretty fast. I think I'm ready to rock and roll."

Understanding the new scheme in which a player is placed is key for a rookie's chances of success. The quicker you learn, the better your chances to get on the field early and often. Williams has found he fits well into what Wilks is teaching.

"His defense, I feel like I adjust to it very well and he puts us in great positions to make plays," Williams said. "His defense is nice."

Another part of the adjustment process is teaching the mind which ingrained techniques need to be forgotten, and which need to be added. A lot of that starts with the feet, especially for cornerback, where one missed step could result in catastrophic defeat. That's not just true for rookies, but all players learning under a new coaching staff. Williams understands the importance of being a technique sponge.

"You gotta definitely take the technique that they telling you serious," Williams said, "because trying something else will get you killed out there."

Williams has a good group from whom he can learn: Ward, Terrance Mitchell, Phillip Gaines and a host of veterans with cornerback experience, such as current safety Damarious Randall. He'll also be able to talk trash with those teammates as competitions heat up in the summer.

For now, though, he's all about asking questions and talking ball. He might need that wisdom come August.

There's been some discussion about this in a couple threads. I'd expect a wide range of coverages although as Vers as noted, not a whole lot of cover 2. Doesn't make sense to have guys like Ward and Greedy and then use cover 2, except to mix things up.

Just think of the two simple defenses out of a single high safety look.

Say it's 3 wide vs nickel personnel. Go to cover 1 with Vernon, Richardson, Ogunjobi, and Garrett rushing, along with Avery from the LB position. Ward, Greedy, and Carrie are playing press man against the 3 receivers. Schobert takes the back, Burnett the tight end, Randall plays deep. Simple but tough with that kind of personnel.

Make it cover 3 if you wish. 4 man rush, 4 players underneath, with Ward/Randall/Greedy responsible for deep thirds (maybe with pattern match that we talked about somewhere.)

Ward, Mitchell, Greedy vs OBJ, VG and AC is gonna make for some interesting comp at TC ...

How lucky are our DB’s to be going against that group everyday ... how do u NOT IMPROVE being battle tested like that on a daily basis ...

This is DIFFERENT and its gonna be FUN!!!

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo ....

Game days are gonna seem like picnics for our DB’s ....

Agreed. Our DB's aren't going to see many receivers better than what they will see in TC.

+1

So, basically I am spot on as usual?

lmao

I don't know who Sam Ingro is but that was awesome.

Not a fan of that kind of talk. I love excitement and optimism, but trash talking by the fans and media before we've done anything is disturbing.

Greedy Williams has already established himself as a starter with the Cleveland Browns

At Cleveland Browns minicamp this week, it was clear that rookie cornerback Greedy Williams has already earned a starting role with the team.

Author: Ben Axelrod
Published: 12:59 PM EDT June 7, 2019

https://www.wkyc.com/article/sports/nfl/...d3-9723845f6f04


BEREA, Ohio -- When the Cleveland Browns drafted Greedy Williams in April, many instantly dreamed of the duo he and Denzel Ward would form.

Some even hearkened back to the 1980s, when Hanford Dixon and Frank Minnifield were controlling the passing lanes on the lakefront. In 2009, NFL.com ranked the Dixon and Minnifield the No. 2 greatest cornerback tandem in league history. Others merely pointed to the fact that Ward was coming off a Pro Bowl selection in his rookie season, while many considered Williams the top cornerback prospect entering this past year's draft.

But regardless of whether you want to rely on rankings or comparisons, it didn't take long for the Browns to see what they have in their new duo.

As he took the field for minicamp on Tuesday, Williams found himself opposite Ward on Cleveland's first-team defense -- a spot he continued to occupy for the entirety of the week. Although the Browns have yet to practice in full pads -- and Terrance Mitchell being fully healthy -- the LSU product appears to have firmly entrenched himself as one of Cleveland's two starting cornerbacks.

"Just working my way in," Williams said of his starting status. "Coming in, watching extra film. Getting down what I need to do. I pushed up to the 1s and have been practicing well with the 1s. I've kind of kept that for a minute."

Despite it taking little more than a month for Williams to steal a starting spot, the transition to the NFL hasn't been as seamless as it might seem.

Asked if he's had a "welcome to the NFL moment" yet, the consensus first-team All-American pointed to his first day of OTAs.

"You get in and you get bombed on a couple of times," Williams said. "My first day of OTAs, it was bad. I was just questioning myself like, 'Am I fit for this?'"

It didn't take long for him to find out he was.

As OTAs progressed, the 21-year-old play's improved -- so much so that he was taking reps across from Ward with the first-team defense. When minicamp arrived, Williams assumed that same spot, something he attributed to persistence that became confidence.

"I ain't ever give up," he said. "I just stayed focused, maintained and every day I just wanted to get better. If I mess up on something, I do it fast -- just challenging myself to do everything fast and just going into the film room and putting it all together."

Added Browns head coach Freddie Kitchens: "I tell guys all the time, especially that position, you are going to get beat some, but you have to play the next play. It is almost like a quarterback -- you are going to throw an interception but you have to play the next play just like the other one did not exist. That is the way I want our team to approach things."

If Williams hadn't solidified his starting status at the start of this week's minicamp, he all but did by the end. Facing the Browns first-team opposing during an 11-on-11 one-minute drill, the former 4-star prospect both read and played his receiver's route to perfection, intercepting Baker Mayfield for a pick-6.

“It is definitely a confident booster," Williams said. "Just with that mindset, what your mind tells you, that is what you are going to go do. Just having fun with the game, my confidence and my comfort. Well-equipped and I am ready to rock and roll.”

Not bad for a player just weeks removed from questioning whether or not he was cut out for professional football.

"Greedy did a good job of pushing through that in the spring or the whole time here," Kitchens said. "He has done a good job pushing through that. That is what the NFL is about. You have to push through. You have to play the next play. You have to have confidence. You have to have more confidence in yourself that anybody around you has. Greedy is going to be fine.”

Good news.

I don't know if I should be excited for Greedy, or upset with Baker.

It was no-pad week. A pick-6 during no-pad week is as important as a batting practice home run.

What do pads have to do w/a pick 6?

My thinking is that none of them would be battling quite as hard in shorts, in early June.

The description that I read about that play suggests that Greedy freelanced and guessed correctly what Higgins would do coming out of his break. That was based on how Higgins had run that route in an earlier rep. Is that instinct or lack of discipline? My answer is it's one rep in June mini-camp.

In the same article, don't remember where I read this but supposedly Freddie's comment after the play was what would Greedy have done if Higgins put a double move on him? Just like Greedy jumped the route this time, wait till TC and Baker and Higgins make that adjustment and house Greedy.

It's a miserable camera angle with a bunch of stuff going on in the background, so it's hard to make out what's actually going on.

What I see is an exotic look from the defense (2-3-6?) but basically it's cover 2. The safety #35 on the defense's right has the deep responsibility on that side, the other safety #23 playing the other deep half, with both outside corners and 2 linebackers playing underneath. 5 rushers... 2 being down linemen, the left slot corner, right slot corner, and 3rd linebacker. Again, hard to make out so this might not be entirely correct.

If that's the case then Greedy isn't really freelancing. He doesn't have the deep responsibility and can jump routes like that at will. It's why I said in another thread you have to play cover 2 on occasion, even if it doesn't match up with our corners' strengths. QBs panic sometimes-- especially young QBs-- and make boneheaded throws. If that throw is to a corner playing a flat/intermediate zone then that can be a pick 6 and a game changing play.

Can't remember the site that had the video. Where did you see it?

BTW, I liked your description of the play. Motivated me to want to see it again.

I saw it in the tweet embedded in HotB's post.

There have been a couple issues with tweets not showing, so here's the link just in case: https://twitter.com/jake_burns18/status/1136369629926961158