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Frankly that's not my problem that the other half aren't in the same position I am. I've only gotten to where I am by earning it.

Likewise, make them earn it! You know that great things can be done without the help of big brother right? By your logic perhaps not?

Yet it’s been proven over and over that a major portion of the U.S. population can’t even afford to miss just one paycheck. Your zoom zoom zoom is more of a pfft pfft pfft for the typical middle class American

Yeah make those farmers in Ohio and elsewhere earn their pay. I’m tired of my tax dollars being handed out by big brother to them.

I’ll leave this here for everyone’s reading pleasure. A little educational piece for some. Confirmation for the rest of us.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/05/study-trump-tax-cuts-failed-growth-investment.html
Study Finds Trump Tax Cuts Failed to Do Anything But Give Rich People Money

The biggest effect of the Trump tax cuts is obvious: People who own businesses and other sources of concentrated wealth will have a lot more money, and the federal budget will have less. But the advocates of the tax cuts insisted it wasn’t about letting the makers keep their hard-earned money rather than handing it over to the takers. It was about incentivizing business to repatriate funds and ramp up its investments, thereby increasing growth and wages.

The Congressional Research Service, a kind of in-house think tank for Congress, has a new paper analyzing the effects of the Trump tax cuts. It finds that none of those secondary effects have materialized. Growth has not increased above the pre-tax-cut trend. Neither have wages. After a brief and much smaller than expected bump, repatriated corporate cash from abroad has leveled off.

It’s of course possible that the growth in wages would take longer than the year or so that has passed since the tax cut to show up. If the Trump tax cut had encouraged new business investment, it might take years for the new investment to bear fruit. But the study looks directly at business investment and finds … nothing:

Supporters of the Trump tax cuts insisted not only that they would promote growth, but that they would promote so much growth the measure would pay for itself. Even moderates like Susan Collins repeated assurances by the party’s pseudo-economists that the plan would not increase the deficit. So far, the growth feedback from the tax cuts has made up about 5 percent of the plan’s revenue loss, a mere 95 percent shy of the predictions.

The passage of the plan was met with a coordinated wave of corporate public-relations announcements of worker bonuses. But the paper finds no widespread increase in bonuses or worker compensation.

When assessing these arguments, keep a close eye on the number of Republican officials or conservative policy-makers who revise their position on the Trump tax cuts in light of the data. If their true primary goal was to increase business investment, then the complete failure of a highly expensive program to achieve its stated goal would lead them to question their support. Why not cancel the Trump tax cuts and use the couple trillion dollars in lost revenue to fund a more effective growth-promoting policy?

So far, the number of Republicans reassessing their support for the Trump tax cuts is, give or take, zero. What this suggests is that the alleged growth-incentivizing secondary effects of the plan were rationales, and the primary effect — giving business owners more money — was the hidden main goal all along.

Confirmation.

First-quarter economic growth up 3.1%, slightly better than Wall Street expected

-GDP rose 3.1% in the first quarter, above Wall Street projections of 3% but one-tenth of a point lower than the first reading.

-Net exports were a big contributor, adding nearly 1 percentage point, despite the U.S.-China trade war.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/30/gdp-q1-2019-second-reading.html

Zoom Zoom

Nothing like a cool V8 to start your day.

Thanks for verifying the tax cut did nothing. Appreciate that.

This economy IS humming along...

At the top it's humming "We're in the Money!" and for the other 99% it's humming "swing low sweet chariot" (the slavery version).

Highest it's been since 2001.. so they must have had even less enthusiasm for Obama economics..

Yea, what he said.

Not sure I am following the comment/intent of your post?

Are you suggesting the Tax cut has had an impact on the economy (other than to increase the deficit) or making a different point?

You’d think trump would jump on this during his daily poop tweets while the market is still as good as it is.

Nope, my comment is in response to another comment about the poll regarding people's confidence in the job market.

Confidence in the job market is higher than it has been since 2001.. that's all my comment is addressing.

Higher than at any point during Bush's good years, 2003-2006ish.. and higher than at any point in the Obama years after the recession...

It's a confidence poll, it's not really measuring any type of economic metric.

Yeah, I must have missed that huge Obama tax cut that the vast majority went to the 1%.

OH! Woe is me! Pity party! I'm not strong or competent enough to take charge and stake my own claim! I can't do something! I'm gonna blame it on the economy because god knows, I can't blame myself. Oh no!

More personal attacks! You don't know me at all, so you can't say any of that crap. I'd break you in every way, that's how strong I am. More competent than you too, your mastery of your primary language demonstrates that!

You just have no compassion for those that do not have it like you have it. You've never been raked over the coals at no fault of your own. You've never lost everything in completely unforeseen circumstances. I know this because of the way you talk and act so high and mighty, you learn not to think that way after you've experienced and or witnessed these thing happen.

I could be wrong, but the impression I get from you is that you are a 30 something that's completely full of himself and has lived a sheltered life inside your little republican biased bubble. Hardest thing you probably ever had to do was try to make a friend. I could go on, but I tire of beating you down in response to your incessant personal attacks.

You've learned the attack policy of your orange God well.

So becoming a socialist and being a peasant to the elite is better than what we currently have. You can put your hands out and wait for a handout but others work for a living and want the government to but out.

Becoming a socialist peasant waiting for handouts... Do you even listen to the crap you say? I don't think anybody on the left wants to take away America's capitalism to the point we would be considered a socialist country like the boogeyman concept FOX and Trump have planted in the small minded American right.

You are basically saying 'give me more of the same!', when the same obviously hasn't worked out for anybody except the elite for the last 40 years. You're so afraid of change that you won't even look at new ideas for fear of losing the scraps allowed to you by your corporate masters.

American values like looking out for each other, being charitable and kind, knowing what's right and wrong then doing what's right... those are all out the window with your ilk because you have become paralyzed by fear!

Don't bother responding to me because I have nothing to offer the likes of you while you live in your fantasy world.

I suppose you consider yourself charitable and kind?

This is the false narrative and the "bright shiny light" Fox/Trump are trying to paint the 'left' with ... that somehow wanting the USA to keep up with the rest of the 1st world countries in the world with a commitment to things like - gasp - healthcare for all is somehow a communist / socialist plot to undermine capitalism and that somehow hard work, ingenuity and entrepreneurial endeavor won't be rewarded. That somehow taxing the Uber Wealthy so they pay their fair share is somehow a green light for everyone else to kick back do nothing and sponge while they live at the poverty line. And woe betide if any poor person is ever seen walking around with an I-phone ... proof positive they are living a life of luxury at hard working people's expense !!!

Very. Just look at all the lessons I've given you lot for free.

Man wearing Trump 'Make America Great Again' hat hit with milkshake during UK protests



A man who showed up to a protest in the United Kingdom wearing one of President Trump's "Make America Great Again" hats was hit by a milkshake as a crowd of demonstrators shouted "Nazi scum."

The scene occurred as thousands of people in London protested Trump's state visit to the U.K. this week.

Video of the incident, which was filmed by the radio station, Leading Britain's Conversation, shows a man wearing a red MAGA hat feuding with a group of protesters. The man can be heard saying, "bring it on."



Footage later shows the man rushing through the crowd after someone apparently ripped the hat off his head. A group of protesters then swarmed around him and repeatedly chanted "Nazi scum" before a milkshake hit him in the face.

Tensions appeared to escalate quickly, as protesters could be seen shoving the man as police and other demonstrators tried to contain the situation.

As many 250,000 people were expected to turn out for protests against Trump in central London on Tuesday, according to reports.

Protesters flew an inflatable baby designed to look like Trump over London during the demonstrations. The nearly 20-foot-long orange, inflatable baby took off in Trafalgar Square before a joint press conference with Trump and British Prime Minister Theresa May.

Trump has dismissed the protests against him as "fake news," saying on Tuesday that his state visit has been meet with thousands of people cheering for him.

British politician Nigel Farage, who formed the Brexit Party in March, was hit with a milkshake by a resident in England last month. A man was charged with common assault and criminal damage following the incident.

https://thehill.com/policy/international...ilkshake-during

Great Britain


Trusted
9:43 / 03.06.2019
Daily Star

Piers Morgan brands Sadiq Khan ‘petty little pipsqueak’ after attack on Donald Trump

The controversial broadcaster claimed that the real big baby in London this week was the Mayor, referencing Khan’s decision to approve the flying of a large Trump baby blimp over Parliament today.

Morgan also hit out at Khan for what he described as a series of “savage” attacks on President Trump in the past 48 hours.

Khan is an open critic of Trump, having previously labelled the former Apprentice star a “fascist” and “growing global threat”.

Writing in his column for Mail Online, the former Britain’s Got Talent judge said: “Sadiq Khan, who’s been Mayor for three years, launched a series of savage attacks on President Trump in the past 48 hours, both in print and on television.

“Mayor Khan also authorized, again, the flying of a giant orange Trump baby blimp over the Houses of Parliament during the visit, specifically designed to mock and humiliate the President.”


ATTACK: Morgan says Khan is the only baby in London this week (Pic: ITV)

“By doing all this, Khan knew exactly what he was doing, and that was to create a firestorm of hatred towards the American leader and to whip up bigger protests against him than might otherwise have occurred.”

Piers continued the blistering attack by claiming that Khan wanted to make Trump’s UK state visit all about himself, adding the Mayor’s refusal to attend the ceremony was disrespectful to the thousands of D-Day heroes who died fighting for both countries.

He acknowledged that the US President was less than perfect but said today’s commemorations should not be overshadowed by cheap political point scoring.

He concluded: “So whatever your view of Trump, this is surely the week to park the incessant anti-Trump hysteria for just a few days and instead honor those who died and risked their lives in Normandy?

“Bottom line is this: do we want the lasting images from this historic occasion to be of a pathetic orange baby balloon flying over our Parliament, or of a US President standing shoulder to shoulder with the Queen to pay tribute to the D-Day heroes?”


“A stone cold loser who should focus on crime in London”
President Donald Trump

It comes after Trump reignited his political feud with the Mayor, calling him “a stone cold loser who should focus on crime in London” – justmoments before Air Force One landed at Stansted.

President Trump and First Lady Melania landed in the UK this afternoon by helicopter and were greeted by Prince Charles on the West Lawn of the palace.

Queen Elizabeth also welcomed the President at Buckingham Palace with a warm handshake, that some viewers thought looked more like a fist bump, on the first day of a three-day visit.

Tonight’s plans include a dinner hosted by the Queen that will be attended by Government ministers including Tory leadership contenders Jeremy Hunt and Michael Gove.

https://twnews.co.uk/gb-news/piers-morga...on-donald-trump

Khan is a big problem for the city of London and I'd be ashamed to have him as my mayor. He has a strong sweeping illegal immigration policy, prohibits freedom of speech, and crimes have gone up under him.

Khan is jealous of the United States and Trump. Personally I think he wants to be Trump.

Regardless of anyone's politics - I think it's fair to say you've lost and are extremely desperate when you fall so low that you need Piers Morgan as a source to support you. Piers is perhaps the biggest idiot I have ever seen on TV. I'd give State run Fox more credence than this moron who rode to fame on the back of being a shock jock editor for a trash 'news' paper in the UK.

Amazing that you follow British and specifically London politics so closely.

Yup I've looked up the statistics before when I first heard of Khan right around when Trump and him had their first Twitter spat.

I was surprised that a lot of what everything is saying about Khan is true, relating to high crimes, immigration policy, and murders in general. Of course not everything is his fault single handily but at some point London overtook New York City in murder rate.

Makes me sad to see that since I've always wanted to visit London. I will go sometime though.

You might want to check your sources. Khann has zero control or impact or say or influence over immigration. Based on that I can assume the rest is a hatchet job too.

Not going to spend more time on this than the 5 minutes it toook me to find this comparison to London crime stats vs another major city in the UK (One where Khan is not Mayor).

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cit...mp;city2=London

Crime increasing in the past 3 years
High 69.35% Manchester
High 67.49% London

And one article on rising crime across the whole of England and Wales (also not under Khan's influence).

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42749089

Yeah - hatchet job and an outspoken critic of Trump ... same old routine. Attack the source and don't address the comments and criticism.

J/C
I voted for Kerry, Obama twice, and Hillary in 2016. I'm proud to admit that I'll be voting for Trump in '20. Why? As somebody who has taught in public schools for about ten years I now see the problems facing our country. Our country is devolving into a third world craphole because we have given our irresponsible people a sense of entitlement that the rest of us working folks are paying the bill for everyday. I've seen white, black, and hispanic mothers who have no joke 8 children from multiple men. - This isn't a problem on it's own, but it is a problem when all 8 kids are receiving free breakfast from the school, free lunches from the school, free school supplies, and then they have the nerve to show up to throughout the year with brand new 150.00 plus tennis shoes. - Forget expensive shirts and pants - those are free also. Paid for by you and me. - I mean, couldn't they have stopped after 1 or 2 kids? I'll never forget watching an 8th grader throw his free lunch at my principal because he felt it was "prison food". The principal called me over to de-escalate the situation, and when I told the kid if he didn't like the free lunch then he could bring his own, he scoffed. Two days later, no joke, the kid shows up to my class with no pencil. I offered him a pencil, he said I needed to "bring it to him" - typical welfare baby whose single mother/grandmother (whoever is raising him) made him feel like he is entitled to free stuff as she keeps having kids. ENOUGH of this already.
-These aren't the only reasons why I'm voting for Trump. I'm disappointed and embarrassed at the new wave of Democrat Congresswomen. AOC wants rich people to pay more of their money to poor irresponsible people that don't know how to use condoms. That idiot cost her constituency 25,000 jobs and has yet to make up for it. She is such an idiot and her appointment tells me that we need to examine who we allow to vote in this country. The same can be said for Ilian Omar - she seems to want to change our country and our loyalty towards Israel for her screwed up islamic vision. I ask of her, if the middle east is so great, and the US is so bad, then why not go to the middle east and politic over there? - Because she'd open her mouth for about 5 seconds and learn real fast about the rights she has here versus there. Joe Biden or whomever the Democrats nominate for president needs to speak out against those two idiots.

Additionally, for the first time in about ten years my wife and I didn't have to pay a huge income tax bill. She's still a registered Democrat by I'm trying to convince her and the rest of my family to change over to the Trump side - the Pro-American side - the side that believes in earning what you receive, emphasizing American values, and telling our citizenry that the US is the best and if they don't like then they can back to wherever it is they cam from.

You are entitled to vote however you like. To your various points:

As for embarrassment at the new Dem Congresswomen ... you name 2 out of 89 total. Regardless of your feelings for AOC and Omar who are both on the extremes .... I think using a tiny sample size based on the extreme left to paint the other 87 that way is uncalled for.

As for the examples of entitled kids you have been exposed to ... I guess it's all in the interpretation. Bad manners and poorly raised kids is not politically biased. I think rude bad mannered kids are just that - and not a reflection of a kids social believe in entitlement. I'm no Trump supporter and if my children ever acted that way they would be taught not to in no uncertain terms.

As for your income tax - it's been proven - the MAJOR beneficiaries of the Trump tax cut is the Uber Wealthy and corporations. Average Joe Schmoe got very little. And the result? A huge increase to the deficit and absolute minimal stimulus to the economy.

Make Democrats Republican Again 2020

A lot of anger and hate in this post. That's all I'm going to say about it.

The only person who created this firestorm is Don the Con himself. If he didn't want this sort of clapback every place he goes, his fat ass should have stayed in reality TV. Now, it's too late- and there's no place for him to hide from the universal contempt he's so richly earned. Only scabs like Hannity, Morgan, et al seem to be in support of him, and making him seem legitimate must be an exhausting daily task.

Q: What's the difference between Donald Trump and the Hindenburg?
A: One's a big flaming Nazi gasbag; the other's a blimp.

I guess he IS capable of drawing big crowds. Should have borrowed them for his inaug- oh, wait... these are the ones who don't like him....

"Trump soars higher"




UK Builds Trump Statue



https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/113607...on-baby-balloon

Why would anyone be surprised that a self appointed Trumpian uses school yard name calling and outrage over those in London being given free speech rights to fly a balloon?