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If you have equipment to grow soybeans and corn it’s not as easy as just ‘switching’ to growing watermelons or cucumbers or such. Farm equipment is highly specialized and very expensive. Corn and soy equipment can not be used to plant, grow, maintain, and harvest other crops.


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I know Ohio farmers a struggling to get crops in because of the rain. Won’t be much of an issue for soy growers as they don’t have a market for their product anymore anyway.
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Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
If you have equipment to grow soybeans and corn it’s not as easy as just ‘switching’ to growing watermelons or cucumbers or such. Farm equipment is highly specialized and very expensive. Corn and soy equipment can not be used to plant, grow, maintain, and harvest other crops.


I did not know that. One of the farm markets I go to leases some lots of additional acreage around our area and he leases farmland across the street from my house and in the last 5 or 6 years he has cycled his crop between soybeans, corn, pumpkins, melons back to corn and last year soybeans.

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If you have equipment to grow soybeans and corn it’s not as easy as just ‘switching’ to growing watermelons or cucumbers or such. Farm equipment is highly specialized and very expensive. Corn and soy equipment can not be used to plant, grow, maintain, and harvest other crops.


I did not know that. One of the farm markets I go to leases some lots of additional acreage around our area and he leases farmland across the street from my house and in the last 5 or 6 years he has cycled his crop between soybeans, corn, pumpkins, melons back to corn and last year soybeans.


My guess is he started out with a few crops and the equipment needed to handle those. Then invested in other crop’s needed equipment over time.
Can’t harvest melons with this...


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Trump has a border crisis and that is a National Security issue as well as an economic issue.
Trump has a National Security problem with China stealing our technology and growing their military to rival us.
China dumps its products on the markets because they subsidize their industry and steal market share, killing all competition.

Trump is using tariffs to get Mexico, its neighbors, and China to knock it off.

This Congress, won't work for fear of giving Trump a victory.
The past Republican Congress lacked the will.
Obama and Bush struggled with the Border problem that is now a crisis.

Trump will do whatever he has to do in order to fix these and other problems that face America today. He is not off his rocker, he is the only man in Washington who is actually working for this Nation.


People don't like the tariffs? Well neither do I.
It will hurt our economy. It will hurt some more than others.
There will be pain.

But instead of complaining, give Trump a solution.

Democrats and RINO Republicans, come together, offer solutions!
Pass legislation to fix the immigration and border crisis.

Trump will sign it and the tariffs on Mexico will go away in a flash.

But you won't.
You won't because hate Trump is more important to you than America herself.

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More ‘taxes’ on the rest of us. Look for food costs to rise.


Nope, not just food... We import cars made there.. This mental midget still hasn't figured out that the person at the end of the buying chain pays for the tariffs... Every seller along the line merely passes it on..


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING


Trump has a border crisis and that is a National Security issue as well as an economic issue.
Trump has a National Security problem with China stealing our technology and growing their military to rival us.
China dumps its products on the markets because they subsidize their industry and steal market share, killing all competition.

Trump is using tariffs to get Mexico, its neighbors, and China to knock it off.

This Congress, won't work for fear of giving Trump a victory.
The past Republican Congress lacked the will.
Obama and Bush struggled with the Border problem that is now a crisis.

Trump will do whatever he has to do in order to fix these and other problems that face America today. He is not off his rocker, he is the only man in Washington who is actually working for this Nation.


People don't like the tariffs? Well neither do I.
It will hurt our economy. It will hurt some more than others.
There will be pain.

But instead of complaining, give Trump a solution.

Democrats and RINO Republicans, come together, offer solutions!
Pass legislation to fix the immigration and border crisis.

Trump will sign it and the tariffs on Mexico will go away in a flash.

But you won't.
You won't because hate Trump is more important to you than America herself.



Quit your whining.

We belong to a two party system that can't agree on anything-it sure is hell isn't going to agree on what to do on immigration. When was the last time there was anything substantive on immigration passed?

And now the bozo gets an undercooked big mac or didn't like what Mueller says and goes off on Mexico. But in the meantime, the USMCA trade agreement sent to Mexico for approval-and he just screwed it up.

Oh yeah, now China is also pulling back because they believe that the could negotiate a deal and Trump will revise the framework or change his mind while going to the bathroom at 3 am-They don't trust him.

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And this is a little something from the South China Morning post about a US-SINO forum that was going on in Bejing today;



But Zeng Peiyan, former Politburo member and vice-premier, told the forum that the US reneged on its commitments in the negotiations.
“The US went back on their promises and raised tariffs amid the talks, causing the disputes over trade to escalate once again … China will never compromise on its principles. We will continue to stand firm in safeguarding our national sovereignty and core interests,” Zeng said.

Former vice-minister of commerce Wei Jianguo also accused the US of trying to “destroy” China by launching “full-scale containment” such as increased tariffs to curb China’s rise.
“The US is choosing the wrong war with the wrong target at the wrong time. Initiating a trade war with China may be the biggest strategic mistake made by the United States since the second world war or even since the country’s founding,” Wei said.
He said the trade war would have consequences affecting geopolitical issues such as the South China Sea and Taiwan. “Calls for independence for Tibet, Taiwan and Hong Kong – I’m sorry, these are the red lines,” Wei said, defining “core” sovereignty interests.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomac...rade-war-united

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This is simply wrong-I don't care what side of the aisle you are on. The cost of what we pay for medicines and we get almost 80% of the active ingredients in our medicine from China & India



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Years ago @CFR I worked on this problem w/@US_FDA & admired work by @pewresearch -- >80% os active ingredients in US medicines are from China & India -- and contamination & fraud are huge. Powerful summary of current state of medicines safety here:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/11/opinion/sunday/generic-drugs-safety.html …

Americans Need Generic Drugs. But Can They Trust Them?
The fake quality-control data, bird infestations and toxic impurities at the overseas plants that could be making your medication.

By Katherine Eban
Ms. Eban is the author of the forthcoming “Bottle of Lies: The Inside Story of the Generic Drug Boom.”

May 11, 2019




In the fall of 2012, a young consumer safety officer at the Food and Drug Administration volunteered for a job that few of his colleagues wanted: inspecting the Indian manufacturing plants that make many of America’s low-cost generic drugs.

In a world of drab auditors, Peter Baker stood apart. He rode a motorcycle and had tattoos lining one arm. Beyond his love of adventure, Mr. Baker, then 32, had a more pragmatic reason to volunteer. By reputation, India was the world leader in aseptic manufacturing, the exacting science of producing sterile drugs. He figured that after reviewing best practices there, he’d return to the United States with expert knowledge that would advance his career.

America needs generic drugs. They make up 90 percent of the American drug supply. Without them, every large-scale government health program — the Affordable Care Act, Medicare Part D, the Veterans Health Administration, charitable programs for the developing world — would be unaffordable.

But what Mr. Baker uncovered in six years of doing foreign inspections exposed the dangerous compromises behind the production of generic drugs, and the F.D.A.’s limits as a global regulatory agency.

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Six months into his stint, Mr. Baker visited a plant in Aurangabad run by the Indian company Wockhardt, which made about 110 generic-drug products for the American market. He had one week at the plant to ensure that it complied with the F.D.A. regulations known as “current good manufacturing practices.” Generating and preserving data at each manufacturing step is crucial to those regulations.

On his second day at the Wockhardt plant, Mr. Baker and a colleague caught an employee trying to smuggle out a garbage bag of documents. The documents led Mr. Baker to discover that the plant had knowingly released into Indian and other foreign markets vials of insulin containing metallic fragments. These had apparently come from a defective sterilizing machine. He learned that the company had been using the same defective equipment to make a sterile injectable cardiac drug for the American market. The willful deception there and at other plants so shocked him that he overhauled his inspection methods, with significant results.

Two months after Mr. Baker’s Wockhardt inspection, the F.D.A. banned the import of drugs from that plant into the United States, a potential $100 million loss in sales for the company. Company officials declined to comment on the fallout from the inspection.

Mr. Baker kept digging. Over the next five years, first in India and then in China, he uncovered fraud or deceptive practices in almost four-fifths of the drug plants he inspected. Some of the plants used hidden laboratories, secretly repeated tests and altered results to produce fake data that fundamentally misrepresented drug quality, then submitted that data to regulators.

In some instances, deceptions and other practices have contributed to generic drugs with toxic impurities, unapproved ingredients and dangerous particulates reaching American patients. Some doctors have struggled to stabilize patients who became sicker after they were switched from a brand-name to a generic, or between generic versions. A low-cost drug is not a bargain if it doesn’t work.

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The F.D.A. declares that “Americans can be confident in the quality of the products the F.D.A. approves.” Because of that reassurance, even savvy consumers — the sorts of people who are well versed in the quality distinctions between Velveeta and artisanal Cheddar — don’t think about how and where their drugs are made when they head to a pharmacy. Their only question usually is: Can they afford, or will their insurance cover, the drug being dispensed?

The F.D.A., which approved more than 1,000 new generic drug products last year, faces a vast challenge in safeguarding these medications. Nearly forty percent of all our generic drugs are made in India. Eighty percent of active ingredients for both our brand and generic drugs come from abroad, the majority from India and China. America makes almost none of its own antibiotics anymore.

Of course, overseas manufacturing can work perfectly well and the F.D.A. contends that it has a reliable review system for all approved drugs. “The F.D.A. inspects all brand-name and generic manufacturing facilities around the world which manufacture product for the U.S. market to confirm they meet F.D.A.'s requirements for manufacturing process,” it said recently.

My reporting on the generic drug industry over the last decade led me to four continents, and into the overseas plants where America’s generic drugs are made. Interviews with more than 240 people, including numerous whistle-blowers, helped expose what was going on behind the boardroom doors at generic-drug companies. Some companies have encouraged data fraud as the most profitable path to securing approvals from regulators, and have used deceit to hold the F.D.A.’s investigators at bay.

In the United States, F.D.A. investigators typically show up unannounced to inspect plants. But overseas, the F.D.A. has opted to announce the vast majority of its foreign inspections in advance. Overseas plants even “invite” the F.D.A. to inspect; the investigators then become the company’s guests and agree on an inspection date in advance. Plant officials have served as hosts and helped to arrange local travel.

The F.D.A. has defended this system as the best way to ease the complex logistics of getting visas and ensuring access to the plants. But the resulting inspections are largely “staged,” say a number of F.D.A. staff members. With advance notice and low-cost labor, the plants can make anything look like anything. “You give them a weekend, they’ll put up a building,” as one F.D.A. investigator put it.

Mr. Baker, the young inspector, pulled back the curtain on these staged visits. He rejected guided tours. Instead, he would arrive at a plant and head to the quality control laboratory, where employees typically audit test results coming in from the factory floor. There, he would get into the computer system and sift through the data himself.

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As Mr. Baker followed clues, he unearthed devious practices at what seemed like transparently run plants. Technicians used initial hidden tests to get preliminary results, which then guided them as they tinkered with the test settings. Then they retested in the plant’s official system to get the desired results showing that the drugs fell within specifications. Those drugs with altered test results could then be released to patients.

During his 27 months in India, of the 38 drug plants he inspected, Mr. Baker found fraudulent or deceptive data in 29 of them. As he worked, other investigators learned from his techniques. The difference was stunning, one F.D.A. employee recalled. “Like you walk into a dark room and suddenly someone just turns on the light,” the employee said. “It was shocking.”

And there was an additional negative consequence to the F.D.A.’s system of advanced notice. With the companies serving as travel agents, F.D.A. investigators spoke of inappropriate perks: hotel upgrades, for which the investigators would never see a bill; golf outings, massages, and trips to the Taj Mahal. The result was what some F.D.A. employees referred to as “regulatory tourism.” The F.D.A. said in response that “any allegations of improper conduct by F.D.A. personnel are investigated.”

A new head of the F.D.A.’s India office, Altaf Lal, arrived in mid-2013. To tame the twin problems of company fraud and compromised investigators, Mr. Lal made a novel pitch to agency officials. He proposed a pilot program to make all inspections in India either on short notice or unannounced. By December 2013, he had a green light. The results were instantaneous.

In January 2014, the F.D.A. was planning an unannounced inspection at a plant in northern India on a Monday. Fearing that plant officials had heard they were coming, Mr. Baker and his colleague went a day early, unannounced. They proceeded to the quality control laboratory, expecting it to be quiet on Sunday morning. Instead, they were stunned to see a hive of activity. Dozens of workers hunched over documents, backdating them. On one desk, Mr. Baker found a notebook listing the documents the workers needed to fabricate in anticipation of the inspectors’ arrival. There were Post-it notes stuck to some surfaces, noting what data to change.

In large swaths of India’s generic drug industry, the pilot program uncovered a long-running machinery dedicated not to producing perfect drugs but to producing perfect data. At one plant, Mr. Baker went straight to the microbiology laboratory and found the paperwork for testing the sterility of the plant in perfect order: microbial limits testing, biological indicators, all the samples with perfect results. Yet most of the samples didn’t exist. The plant was testing almost nothing. The laboratory was a fake.

At the vast majority of the unannounced inspections, the investigators found things the plants no longer had time to fix: Infestations of birds and insects. A pile of critical manufacturing records, tossed in a trash bin. An employee bathroom near a sterile manufacturing area in one plant lacked drainage piping, so urine puddled directly onto the floor.

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Under the pilot program, the rate of inspections resulting in the F.D.A.’s most serious finding, “official action indicated,” increased by almost 60 percent, according to my own analysis of F.D.A. records. Before long, drugs from numerous plants in India had been banned from the United States market. Given these results, it seemed logical for the F.D.A. to make unannounced inspections or short notice the norm around the world. But in July 2015, F.D.A. officials decided to terminate the program and return to largely pre-announced inspections in India. When asked why, the agency declined to explain its reasoning and stated that “after evaluation of the pilot a decision was made to discontinue the pilot.”

More recently, an F.D.A. spokeswoman said that the agency has conducted “a number of unannounced inspections at foreign manufacturing facilities, ”when it has information from a whistle-blower or is investigating a drug safety issue. The F.D.A. asserts that its import alerts, which can stop substandard drugs from entering the country, are an “effective tool” for protecting patients.

But from 2013 to 2018, according to records I have obtained, F.D.A. officials downgraded the regulatory sanctions against more than 100 Indian plants, changing the designation of “official action indicated” to “voluntary action indicated.” This allowed drugs from those plants to continue to reach patients in the United States.

Most Americans agree that our drug supply is in crisis. But the crisis they point to is that of cost: brand-name drugs that are unaffordable, because of corporate greed, and a labyrinth of deals between drug makers, drugstore chains and insurance companies. One response has been to push for more, cheaper generics made available as quickly as possible. But that solution has come with a quality crisis that has been largely invisible to American consumers.

Our drug supply needs one system of regulation that prioritizes both low cost and high quality: an unannounced inspection at every plant that makes drugs for the United States market. Companies or countries that refuse to comply should not be allowed to sell to American consumers. Those consumers deserve to know where their medicines are made, information they get on their cereal boxes and shirt labels. “Made in America” on a pill bottle label could have a strong market effect, helping to draw drug manufacturing back to the United States, where it can be more effectively policed.

In February 2015, Peter Baker moved to China, where he found similar data fraud and deception in 38 of the 48 drug plants he inspected. He left the agency this March. Shaken by what he uncovered in his work for the F.D.A., he told a colleague that if people knew how some of those drugs were manufactured overseas “then no one would take them.”

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You lefties are ridiculous people. Prices are going to rise. Trump is going to make us starve Relax snowflakes. Obama sure taught you guys to bend over for these other countries,

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With a history of low information posts like that, you don't get to call anybody ridiculous.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING


Trump has a border crisis and that is a National Security issue as well as an economic issue.
Trump has a National Security problem with China stealing our technology and growing their military to rival us.
China dumps its products on the markets because they subsidize their industry and steal market share, killing all competition.

Trump is using tariffs to get Mexico, its neighbors, and China to knock it off.

This Congress, won't work for fear of giving Trump a victory.
The past Republican Congress lacked the will.
Obama and Bush struggled with the Border problem that is now a crisis.

Trump will do whatever he has to do in order to fix these and other problems that face America today. He is not off his rocker, he is the only man in Washington who is actually working for this Nation.


People don't like the tariffs? Well neither do I.
It will hurt our economy. It will hurt some more than others.
There will be pain.

But instead of complaining, give Trump a solution.

Democrats and RINO Republicans, come together, offer solutions!
Pass legislation to fix the immigration and border crisis.

Trump will sign it and the tariffs on Mexico will go away in a flash.

But you won't.
You won't because hate Trump is more important to you than America herself.



Eww boy ...remember the GOP’rs working with Obama on healthcare? I don’t and he still got it passed. Not much of an excuse their buddy, since the the GOP controls the senate and trump had two years with a majority in the house as well. notallthere


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Trade wars have cost stock market $5 trillion: Deutsche Bank analysis

President Trump’s multi-front trade war has cost the stock market $5 trillion in the past 17 months, according to analysis from Deutsche Bank.

“While other factors also arguably played a role, the trade war has been key in preventing a recovery in global growth and keeping U.S. equities range bound. Foregone U.S. equity returns from price appreciation for 17 months are worth $5 trillion,” Binky Chadha, the bank’s chief strategist, wrote in a Friday note to clients obtained by Marketwatch.

Chadha added that the cost was similar to that of the European financial crisis in 2011-2012 and the economic shock following the collapse of crude oil prices in 2014-2016.

“In terms of duration, the current episode is still 5-6 months short of those two episodes. But it is notable that the current episode has occurred in a context of significantly stronger U.S. macro and earnings growth and a lower unemployment rate,” Chadha said, adding that the money left on the table is already worth 12 years of the U.S.’s bilateral trade deficit with China.

The White House is waging a multi-pronged trade war, with the bulk of its tariffs being levied against China.

The Trump administration raised tariffs from 10 percent to 25 percent on $200 billion of Chinese imports. Beijing by targeting $60 billion worth of U.S. agricultural exports and halting purchases of American soybeans. The president also announced Thursday he intends to levy a 5 percent tariff on all Mexican imports unless Mexico City ramps up its efforts to curb illegal border crossings into the U.S.

The markets were roiled late this week in light of the news of the possible tariffs on Mexico, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average futures dropping almost 255 points by Friday morning.

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/trade...e-bank-analysis


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when is a good time to crucify the republican ideology? I used crucifiction as a verb, because I heard you guys preach the good book. Give me your weak, poor, least of my brothers stuff. Even brown people.

The majority of the southern United States, Republicans, and 2% of Americans should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves. You know who you are, you know what you did.

I could let you know more things, but I’m pretty sure your head is in the sand. Telling me the climate, race relations, and wealth disparity, are not the most pressing issues confronting Americans. As you were



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Mexico's Foreign Minister just dropped everything on his schedule and is traveling to Washington to speak with the Trump administration about all this.

Results already?
Mexico is talking.


Lol.. he’s writing a check .... lower left says “for wall”


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Mexico Now Deports More Central American Migrants Than The U.S.

In a shift from years past, new data shows that Mexico apprehends and deports more undocumented immigrants from Central America than does the United States.

While illegal immigration to the U.S. remains a potent political issue in the presidential campaign, more Mexican immigrants have returned to Mexico from the U.S. than have migrated here since 2009.

Here & Now‘s Meghna Chakrabarti talks to Victoria Rietig, policy analyst at the Migration Policy Institute, about Mexico’s growing role as an enforcer against illegal immigration in the region.

https://www.wnyc.org/story/mexico-now-deports-more-central-american-migrants-than-the-us/

So he just negotiated a trade deal with Canada and Mexico and now is going to break the deal he just made with Mexico. The whole world knows what a liar he is.


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In other news..... A Secret Service detail had to quickly remove Donald Trump from the stage of a recent campaign rally. They saw an unknown man in the crowd with an 8"x10" photograph of John McCain. The suspect is still at large.


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John McCain spending eternity rent free in Trump's head. The definition of hell.


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In other news. Trump has just released his latest book that's sure to make the New York Times best sellers list...."Mein Covfefe".


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In other news. Someone threw a beer at Donald trump at an NRA rally. As luck would have it, it was a draft beer so Trump easily dodged it.


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Trump’s Tariffs Have Already Wiped Out Tax Bill Savings for Average Americans
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(Bloomberg) -- President Donald Trump’s trade wars have already wiped out all but $100 of the average American household’s windfall from Trump’s 2017 tax law. And that’s just the beginning.

That last $100 in tax-cut gains could soon completely disappear -- and then some -- because of additional tariffs Trump has announced. If the president makes good on his threats to impose levies on virtually all imports from China and Mexico, those middle-earning households could pay nearly $4,000 more.

Subtract the tax cut, and the average household will effectively be paying about $3,000 more in taxes through additional levies on the products they consume.

“It’s giving with one hand and taking with the other,” said Kim Clausing, an economics professor at Reed College in Portland, Oregon, who has written a book promoting free trade.

Here’s how the math works. Middle earners got an average tax cut of $930, according to the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center. The tariffs already in effect cost the average household about $831, according to research from the New York Federal Reserve.

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Add in the additional tariffs on another $300 billion in Chinese goods that Trump proposed in May and that increases the cost for the average family of four to about $2,294 annually, according to research from Tariffs Hurt the Heartland, a coalition of business groups that oppose tariffs.

Trump has also threatened to levy tariffs on all imports from Mexico, starting with a 5% tax beginning as soon as Monday that would increase monthly to 25% by October. If the tariffs reach their highest level, that would increase costs for households by $1,700 annually, according to Gary Hufbauer, a senior fellow at the centrist Peterson Institute for International Economics.

The full force of the Chinese and Mexican tariffs and subsequent retaliation would mean that consumers are paying an additional $3,994 because of tariffs, more than four times the $930 tax cut for middle earners that the Republican Party touts as its signature legislative achievement.

The tariffs are "clearly demolishing” the benefits of the tax cuts for both businesses and consumers, said Daniel Ikenson, who directs trade policy at the libertarian Cato Institute. “Many households and consumers have been spared so far, but the next round of tariffs will be more problematic.”

In the beginning of the trade dispute, Trump and his advisers sought to put tariffs on imports that consumers don’t directly buy, such as steel and aluminum. But as the trade feud with China has escalated, they ran out of non-consumer goods on which to put levies. The most recent round of announced tariffs includes consumer products, such as apparel, sporting goods and kitchen ware.

Trump’s most recent threat on all imports from Mexico would increase prices on cars and auto parts, televisions, phones and air conditioners, as well as produce, such as avocados, citrus and pineapples.

Only the top 5% of earners would continue to see a net tax cut of more than 1%, according to the right-leaning Tax Foundation. Tariffs would also depress wages by about 0.5% and result in the loss of nearly 610,000 full-time jobs, according to the foundation.

That creates political problems for Republicans in Congress who have continued to back Trump even as they disagreed with his trade policies. Republicans have cited the passage of the tax-cut law, low unemployment rates and wage increases as signs that Trump’s policies have buoyed the economy. But there are signs that support is beginning to fracture.

The tax cuts “vaulted America back into the most competitive economy,” said Representative Kevin Brady, a Texas Republican who led the passage of the tax cut legislation in the House. “Higher tariffs and the uncertainty that comes with trade disputes" hurt the economy, he said.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell urged the administration this week to delay imposing the tariffs until Republicans in Congress could plead their case to Trump. Most Senate Republicans have objected to Trump’s use of tariffs to force tougher border enforcement by Mexico. Lawmakers are weighing moves to block the levies.

“This is a man-made disaster, because Donald Trump is not focused in any way on advancing a well-thought-out doctrine,” said Representative Hakeem Jeffries, a top Democrat from New York. “He seems to be carrying out at times personal vendettas, at other times political objectives and sometimes an effort to distract from the news of the day.”

Little Noticed

The effects of tariffs have yet to become noticeable to average consumers. That could soon change. The tariffs on goods from Mexico are slated to go into effect Monday, barring a last-minute deal between Mexican and U.S. negotiators. The Chinese tariffs hitting consumer goods could go into effect in the coming months.

Negotiators met for a second day Thursday to try to come to some agreement that would avert the tariffs. Mexico pushed for more time, but Vice President Mike Pence said the U.S. plans to impose tariffs on Monday.

“It’s not like all of sudden prices will jump 25%, but they could increase 10% or 11%,” said Brian Yarbrough, a senior equity analyst at Edward Jones, said of tariffs of 25% or more. “At some point, price increases will choke off demand, resulting in fewer sales.”

Republicans are hoping to campaign in 2020 on the message of a strong economy buoyed by their tax reductions and deregulation, which began two years ago. But the fresh sting of tariffs risk erasing any economic goodwill those policies generated.

“For the average household it will be a net loss, no doubt,” the Peterson Institutes’s Hufbauer said. “It will be painful.”

To contact the reporter on this story: Laura Davison in Washington at ldavison4@bloomberg.net

To contact the editors responsible for this story: Wendy Benjaminson at wbenjaminson@bloomberg.net, Steve Geimann

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That's why everyone should just be honest and call it the Trump tax.


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Funny how nobody cared about the Illegals flooding over our Border.

Congress didn't care.
Business didn't care.
The Libs didn't care.
The Democrats didn't care.
Mainstream Media didn't care.

Only the American People and Trump cared.

Now however, Trump goes with Tariffs, hitting everyone's pocketbook, AND SUDDENLY EVERYONE CARES!

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https://thehill.com/opinion/internationa...e-border-crisis

Trump isn't going in this alone. Proud Americans are giving him our full support. I gather you don't want to read such a long article, so here is a snippet:
"Even if Mexico refuses to help us solve the border crisis, this strategy ensures American communities will begin to make up for the costs they bear in the form of violence, drugs, and other problems tied to illegal immigration. “Should Mexico choose not to cooperate on reducing unlawful migration, the sustained imposition of tariffs will produce a massive return of jobs back to American cities and towns,” President Trump explained, emphasizing companies “will not pay the tariffs or be affected in any way” if they simply relocate to the United States."

You gotta give it to President Trump. This is a brilliant plan. You see, U.S. companies that currently produce items in Mexico will be negatively affected by the tariff. Their only recourse will be to set up shop back in the USA and hire Americans - that way they avoid the tariff. I swear this presidency is ground breaking in that by the time Trump is done, all we elect will be businessmen with a great eye for the American economy and people.

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Let me tell you what's funny. Illegal immigration is at its highest level ever known. The Republicans hold both the senate and the White House.

Rather than them actually fixing the problem, they're dictating to another country how to run their immigration policies by breaking a trade agreement we just made withe them a very short time ago.

So it's another case of Trump lying and expecting someone else to do his job.

And the American people will pay the cost of those tariffs.

You see, this immigration problem became much worse when Trump started threatening to shut down the entire border and build a wall. Yet while they hold both the senate and the White House, they try to blame the Democrats.

Sometimes Trump creates problems by running his moth. then he always has to find someone else to blame it on. This time it's Mexico.


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Yeah, they're all going to relocate over something that could end in a few months.


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Yeah, they're all going to relocate over something that could end in a few months.


They’ll pass the costs onto the consumer.
It’ll cost less than relocating and hiring US employees.


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yea, remember when companies said them leaving overseas will help save the american consumer money?

production cost went down, but the price of goods to consumers stayed the same, and have been going up in a lot of cases.

companies got a tax cut, and they STILL didn't relocate here. in some cases, it got worse. for example, trump's production is still located where? china.

we don't even have the infrastructure necessary to bring manufacturing back like that. and conservatives love to forget that when plants are built here, they are state of the art automation plants, requiring minimum workers to complete task at a far more efficient rate.

ALSO, this idea that tariffs are gonna make US companies come back is laughable. the only thing they will do is move to the next underdeveloped country with borderline slave wages to set up shop. its why Bangladesh, Vietnam, Taiwan and India are picking up manufacturing production.

tariffs pretty much punish everyone BUT the intended target.

and then last, but certainly not least, thing about the brain dead argument trump and his MAGA hatters are using.

somehow, placing tariffs on mexico is somehow gonna stop the flow of illegal immigrants?

its like they don't understand that punishing a poor country is gonna make even MORE migrants try to cross over to the US. cause, ya know, we just made a poor country poorer.

yea, thats really gonna show them.

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Why would it end?


Well all Mexico has to do is solve America's immigration policy and it's over, right?

They're already negotiating what Mexico needs to do to stop the tariffs.

But I see your point to an extent. Trump just reached anew trade agreement with Mexico a very short timer ago and is already breaking that deal with his newest excuse. So who knows what he will do? You certainly can't figure that out by anything he says.


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Radio report yesterday.

Cars might go up in price by as much as 1300 US in the near future.

The talk was a bout wiring harnesses. Parts are made in the US, then sent to Mexico for assembly- mainly because it is hands-on labor-intensive and wages are low enough down there to make it more feasible than assembling them here. You know- because of the greedy unions who demand their workers be paid a living wage. The completed assemblies are then sent back to the US for installation.

Car seats may make as many as 4 or 5 trips to both sides of the border. Each time they come back, they are subject to the same tariffs- over and over.

Does anyone think that Ford, GM, et al are going to simply eat these costs? Not if they understand the basics of capitalism, as most on here claim.

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Found it: click here for a 3 minute audio report.

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https://thehill.com/opinion/internationa...e-border-crisis

Trump isn't going in this alone. Proud Americans are giving him our full support. I gather you don't want to read such a long article, so here is a snippet:
"Even if Mexico refuses to help us solve the border crisis, this strategy ensures American communities will begin to make up for the costs they bear in the form of violence, drugs, and other problems tied to illegal immigration. “Should Mexico choose not to cooperate on reducing unlawful migration, the sustained imposition of tariffs will produce a massive return of jobs back to American cities and towns,” President Trump explained, emphasizing companies “will not pay the tariffs or be affected in any way” if they simply relocate to the United States."

You gotta give it to President Trump. This is a brilliant plan. You see, U.S. companies that currently produce items in Mexico will be negatively affected by the tariff. Their only recourse will be to set up shop back in the USA and hire Americans - that way they avoid the tariff. I swear this presidency is ground breaking in that by the time Trump is done, all we elect will be businessmen with a great eye for the American economy and people.



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Trump: U.S., Mexico Reach Deal To Avoid New Tariffs

June 7, 20198:48 PM ET

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Updated at 10:25 p.m. ET

The U.S. and Mexico have "reached a signed agreement" that would avert the tariffs that were scheduled to begin on Monday, President Trump said on Friday evening.

As part of the deal, Mexican officials "agreed to take strong measures to stem the tide of Migration," Trump tweeted.

Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador also praised the deal, thanking "all Mexicans who made it possible to avoid the imposition of tariffs on Mexico products exported to the United States." He called for celebrations in Mexico on Saturday.

Under a joint agreement released by State Department officials, Mexico will assist the United States in curbing migration across the border by deploying its national guard troops through the country, especially its southern border. The agreement also says Mexican authorities will work to dismantle human smuggling operations.

Mexico agrees to accept more migrants seeking asylum in the United States, according to the deal.

For its part, the U.S. promises that those asylum applicants will be "rapidly returned" to Mexico as they await the result of their claims. Mexico agrees to accept them and offer jobs, health care and education.


https://www.npr.org/2019/06/07/730283772/trump-u-s-mexico-reaches-deal-to-avoid-new-tariffs


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Schumer mocks Trump: 'I'm sure we won't be hearing any more' about illegal immigration

Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) jabbed President Trump on Friday night after Trump said he would drop plans to impose tariffs on Mexico because his administration had reached a deal to stem the flow of migrants to the U.S.

“This is an historic night! @realDonaldTrump has announced that he has cut a deal to ‘greatly reduce, or eliminate, Illegal Immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States,'" Schumer tweeted.

"Now that that problem is solved, I’m sure we won’t be hearing any more about it in the future,” Schumer added.



The president had threatened to slap a 5 percent tariff on all goods from Mexico starting next week if the country did not ramp up its efforts to curb illegal border crossings into the U.S.

Trump declared Friday evening that a deal had been reached to avoid the duties after negotiations with Mexican officials in Washington, saying the Mexican government would “take strong measures to stem the tide of Migration through Mexico, and to our Southern Border.”



As part of the deal, Mexico will beef up its national guard presence at its southern border to stem the flow of Central American migrants northward, boost intelligence sharing with the U.S. and allow the U.S. to deport migrants seeking asylum to Mexico to await adjudication, according to the State Department. Mexico also said it would take stronger action against human and drug trafficking rings.

Illegal immigration has long been a centerpiece of Trump's political agenda and rhetoric going back to his 2016 presidential campaign. Under his presidency, the administration has proposed a litany of policies to curb illegal and legal border crossings and curtail the number of refugees the country accepts.

Lawmakers from both parties had urged Trump this week not to go through with his threat to impose tariffs on Mexico, which has become the United States's top trading partner, voicing concerns that such a move could hurt economic growth and derail a push to ratify a revised trade agreement with Mexico and Canada.

“I am glad President Trump has secured a commitment from the Mexican government to do more to secure their own borders and control the flow of people through their country. The security and humanitarian crisis on the southern border of the United States is unacceptable and Mexico has a crucial role to play as a responsible neighbor," Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said Friday.

“It is also good news for Kentuckians and for all Americans that U.S. families won’t be hit with the price increases that would have resulted from new tariffs on imports from Mexico," the majority leader continued in a statement.

The GOP leader argued that "the onus is now squarely on my Democratic colleagues in Congress" to approve money for agencies along the U.S.-Mexico border.

"Republicans have been working for weeks to secure supplemental funding for the badly overstretched agencies conducting law enforcement and humanitarian missions amid the border crisis. Thus far, Democrats have dragged their heels and preferred to pick political fights with the President rather than get something done."

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4475...-be-hearing-any

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I am pleased to inform you that The United States of America has reached a signed agreement with Mexico. The Tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S. on Monday, against Mexico, are hereby indefinitely suspended. Mexico, in turn, has agreed to take strong measures to stem the tide of Migration through Mexico, and to our Southern Border. This is being done to greatly reduce, or eliminate, Illegal Immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States. Details of the agreement will be released shortly by the State Department. Thank you!

-President of the United States of America
Donald Trump

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See Pit, like I have been telling you, Trump got this.

Now you won't have to pay Tariffs on cheese to go with your Whine.

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Great, can we now stop talking about a stupid wall?


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Great, can we now stop talking about a stupid wall?


No wall needed. The Wizard of Oz has fixed the issue. Great.


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