DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum PFF: Browns 18th Best Roster in NFL

It really was a 'Tale of Two Seasons.'

I don't think the importance of the way this team turned around can be overstated. The play became dynamic, unpredictable, innovative and exciting. And it happened like flipping a light switch. The plays were smart, and the execution was surprising.

The two most important elements of the turnaround dynamic- the QB and Coach- are still in place. Everything else flows from that.

IMHO, the trick will be figuring out how best to deploy all these new weapons combinations. There is enough potential fire power to keep all DC's on some dosage of Ambien. How it is distributed is the challenge here. This is prob gonna be one sophisticated playbook, and these young guys will need to become fast learners, or the first 2-3 games could have some real janky moments. A fast start early in the season would be helpful, but is in no way guaranteed.

On paper, this team is an order of magnitude better than we've seen. It is still the NFL, and teams will not be sleeping when they take the field against Brownies. Every point will have been earned.

10 wins is doable.
Potentially.

.02

Projections such as this are futile....silly season nonsense....

It will all change when the season starts.

You still trying to rewrite history. Ugh. Ok.

Anyway... these rankings are fine with me. A lot of the "low" ranking players are from the recent seasons. Many of our players haven't had a real HC. It's all just offseason fodder and fuel for our team. Last year about this time the Chiefs were also ranked about the same. This is no indication how the season will go.

I also see last year as two distinct seasons. I think this team we have now is the one that went 5-3 over the 2nd half. Extrapolated to a full season is 10-6. I agree 10 wins is doable.

If i didn’t think so little of U, i’d ask how i’m RE-writing history ... that don’t even make sense ...

U don’t appear to take getting caught lying for the 2nd time very well ... ..

It's 5 o'clock somewhere.

I'd have to be caught a first time to be caught a second time.

Math wasn't your strong suit I take it.

There is still only one ball on offense,

I think this makes the transition to Wilkes and saying good bye to Gregg Williams, and keeping the defense dominant, is so very vital.

No matter how great anyone thinks, the Mayfield offense, last year, and this year had/will have some 3 and outs.

If you have this offense, with Beckham, Hunt, Landry, Callaway, Chubb, Njoku, Higgans, Duke, and Harris.

If the offense goes 3 and out,
But then the Browns defense can't get off the field!

The more stars you have on offense in that situation, the more likely "Somebody's" going to be on the sideline upset that they didn't get a chance to touch the ball, and now the teams in a bad situation!

It makes the defenses' being able to get stops,
the defenses' being able to create turnovers,
ALL THAT MORE IMPORATANT,

So if Wilks' D is noticeably worse than last years D, then it's got the potential to get ugly and
where do you go from there.

The defense is so Vital, so important this year, probably especially early,

I just looked, the Monday Night games are primarily early.

Lets not forget

- Avery in the 2nd year leap category
-Kareem Hunt ... how’d u forget that one bro ...
- entire year stating with OTA’s in the same system ..,
- the players know Freddie and who he is and what is expected of them ... cutting out the get to u know phase with a new HC ...
- entire off season TC with bake taking all the reps ...

Its NIGHT and DAY with this team ...

I can’t wait bro ... who’d a ever thunk there’d be a day i’d Be more optimistic than u ... *LOL* ...

I don't think 9 or 10 wins is an impossible task... in fact, I put that as our most likely win total in Vers's old prediction thread.

There are a lot of reasons the Browns should win more games than last year-- coaching, additional talent brought in, natural progression of younger players already here.

There are also a few things that could keep this in check, such as injuries (where the Browns were fortunate in 2018), a more difficult schedule, and teams not taking us lightly. You could even put coaching here too as Freddie is untested in the head coaching role.

We'll see what happens. I'm optimistic about this team, but I see people penciling us in for the Super Bowl or saying we are the most talented team in the league and I just think... not so fast. I mean, the optimism is great and all, but then if it doesn't happen some people aren't going to know what to do with themselves.

I am enthusiastic about the coming season. Heck, I upgraded my season tickets, so I'm literally more invested in the team going forward. That said, there are some sobering facts to keep in perspective.

First (in no particular order), as good as the winning felt last season, especially as the season progressed, we still ended with a losing record. There is good reason to expect improvement, but how much?

Second, of the 7 games we won, 6 were against teams that ended the season with a losing record. We beat the lesser teams of the league. Now, can we start beating the better teams?

Third, the rest of the league has tape on how Kitchens plans and how Mayfield plays. They will be better prepared.

Fourth, how good is the O-line. The loss of Zeitler will almost certainly weaken it, how much is a key question. Robinson played the best of his career. Has he found a new level or were the final 8 games of last year a statistical outlier for him? Of the O-line positions, only 2 are comfortably solid.

Finally, fifth, can we stop the other teams from scoring? We were last in the league in missed tackles last year, 30th against the run, and 31st on special teams.

Our offense is great, and the addition of Beckham makes it even better. I firmly believe the future is bright. But we have a lot to prove before we can claim to be among the league's best. I know we can get there. I know this year will be better than last. How good will we start the year? How much will we improve during the year? How good can we be by the end of the year? We won't know until we are playing games that count.