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Don't even try, Trump isn't talking about 10 years from now because he doesn't care about 10 years from now.

And you should seriously find a new crack on libs because the TDS thing has no affect other than make you look dumber than you are. And 2017 wants it's attack back.


So...you know what Trump cares about now? Wow. Amazing powers must come from TDS.


I've never made an effort to hide the fact I despise Trump. You can't all that TDS. All you can do is parrot more talking points and think you have it all figured out... You crack me up. thumbsup

I tried to reread some of your posts from today and all I see is TDS TDS TDS... fact free Fox News regurge.


Something you refuse to acknowledge does not = talking point. Real issues...with real words behind them...that you don't want to acknowledge...is not a Me-problem.

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Originally Posted By: WSU Willie
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According to the constitution the census must take place every ten years. In order for the forms to be printed, sent out and filled out during the 2020 calendar year, there isn't enough time to delay the census long enough for the SCOTUS to revisit the citizenship question.

Do you ever bother to actually research anything you say?


There is plenty of time to print forms to be filled-out. Happens every year around tax time.

Do you ever actually think-through an issue?


According to the Trump admin, the deadline was the other day. That's the point. You can't use a deadline as reason the court must act now, then change the deadline when you don't get your way. It's over for the 2020 census. Better luck next time.

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Once again, the census has never counted "citizens". It asks questions based on what is needed to be known to determine funding.


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Thanks for pointing out that it is the power of congress to change questions on the census and not the presidents.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Once again, the census has never counted "citizens". It asks questions based on what is needed to be known to determine funding.


It is a vehicle for obtaining information - including how many people live in the country. Why else would it ask for gender, relationship status, etc?

If you want to draw a line between the words residents and citizens - legal and otherwise - then have at it.

The issue with the citizenship question is adding the ability to obtain additional information - aka the purpose of the census.

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So then why did the SCOTUS strike down the question? It has a conservative majority.

And let's revisit yet another thing you claimed. You claimed that the printing of the census could be put off until later. I'm pretty sure you didn't realize that I was telling you what the White House actually told the SCOTUS. They told the SCOTUS that July first was the deadline to begin printing the census. That was the reason the DOJ gave to get the SCOTUS to push the decisions up on their schedule.

You do realize courts don't like it when you lie to them, right?


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Originally Posted By: WSU Willie


The issue with the citizenship question is adding the ability to obtain additional information - aka the purpose of the census.


Do you know why we do not count US citizens living abroad in the census, unless they are federal employees?

The census exists to determine apportionment of the states according to population. Any questions added on top may be useful for data gathering, but it is only convenience. The census exists solely to determine apportionment and nothing in the Constitution states we need to know how many men and women are in each state, or how many are citizens vs not.

If adding a question to the census will discourage people from filling out the form, we are failing at our primary purpose for the census to exist.


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The census exists to determine apportionment of the states according to population.


period.

because: Constitution.





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The census exists to determine apportionment of the states according to population.


period.

because: Constitution.





I gave that argument up years ago. They only care to keep the 2nd amendment as gods gift to them.


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Also the census has a whole lot to do with the distribution federal funding for areas of the country

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