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I have refrained from this forum for many reasons.
However, I feel almost obligated to comment on this latest news cycle.
This person now in the office of the president is a disgrace as a human being, and a American.
He has made a mockery of the office of the presidency and has been an embarrassment on the world stage.
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And the continuous divisiveness, hate, bigotry, and malice that it takes to author tweets like this daily does not frighten you at all? smh
Cut and paste from a different thread - hope you do not mind OCD. So ... AOC was born and raised in New York and she's not white. What would any of you do if your kids went on a tirade about another person they met - and based on the color of their skin told them to go back "to where you come from " .... ? I know what the hell I would tell my kids and the discussion that would ensue. It's despicable. It's most definitely racist. And this is our POTUS ... and I have no doubt the Trump stooges will be applauding. Just wow. I applaud. Part of being a American citizen is acting like you want to be an American citizen. I don't care where they were born. I care about where their hearts are. You want to line up behind them, get lost is my attitude. You are losing me man.
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I didn't think anyone would even think about defending Trump, but apparently after reading a couple of the last several posts, I was mistaken.
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but if it becomes apparent he is going to lose, they will all come out (too late by my standard) to voice their disgust over his actions... ... at which point, they all should be hammered with: "Fine... where tf was your spine 4 years ago? Two years ago?" And if I was running against any of them, I'd keep that question front & center for the entirety of my campaign.
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There have been Republicans who have spoke out against his comments, though.
I mean.....we get the party line thang, right? Someone mentioned it earlier w/the GOP thing, but Bernie backed Hillary after he lost to her.
It's what they do. It's not about right and wrong. It's about promoting and defending your side. That is one of the reasons I don't get caught up in "sides," and why I distrust politicians.
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Clem, this is interesting. Trump's approval rating w/Democratic voters fell 2 points since this week. His approval rating fell from 4 out of 10 w/Independent voters to 3 out of 10. Yet, his approval rating among Republican voters rose 5 percentage points to 72%.
This tells us that there are a lot of folks who agree w/him. They are claiming that if you don't like it here, leave. Sounds like BS to me.
The good news is that his overall scores are that 41% approve of the job he is doing and 55% do not.
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Everything spoken or written that is not agreed with is not racist. These 4 women call every political attack against them as racist. Heck they even called Pelosi racist just last week.
What Trump said in his tweet was not racist. It was not Peresidental and I do not like personal attacks and do not think that is the right way to do things.
In the long run though. Main stream America does not like these 4 women political stances and their extreme hatred of the country we live and they serve. Trump is putting himself against these 4 women on purpose because it is a winner for him.
Stand up to extremism while placing America first. He will paint whatever Democratic candidate as Democratic extremists in step with these 4 women. Polls show that 2016 independents have an approval rating of under 20% for these 4 women. He will run against extremism.
I would just rather see him call out their political view instead of personal attacks. He just needs to expose the lefts hatred of America and use these 4 as examples to the country.
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Come on, man. He said to go back where you came from. Three of the four were born here and all four are US citizens. He is highlighting their race.
That is not cool or defensible in my opinion.
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Come on, man. He said to go back where you came from. Three of the four were born here and all four are US citizens. He is highlighting their race.
That is not cool or defensible in my opinion. These 4 women have offended many people over the last 6 months since taken office. What President Trump said was a personal attack that was in poor taste but it was not racist.
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these 4 women political stances and their extreme hatred of the country we live and they serve. Where in the world do people get this thing that they think they can accuse another American of "hating America"? I don't get it. Why do the right and Trump think that these women "hate America"? Interestingly, it's also almost always men who are attacking them. So, let's look at everything America is said to symbolize and its core values, let's look at the scripture on the base of the Statue of Liberty, let's look at the language in the Bill of Rights. Is Trump truly abiding by, defending and acting as if they mean something to everybody? I think it's fair to say that if we are even questioning this about the President then why are more people not accusing him of "hating America and everything we stand for"? Just sayin....
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I really don't want to argue, but come on, man! They are women of color and he is telling them to go back to where they came from despite 3 of the 4 being born here and all 4 being US citizens. That's racist as can be.
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Well, when people want change, they hate America.
Abe Lincoln hated America. Martin Luther King hated America. Ralph Waldo Emerson hated America. Harriet Beacher-Stowe hated America. Booker T Washington and WEB DuBois hated America. Rosa Parks hated America. JFK and Bobby Kennedy hated America.
For the record: This is not me saying I like those four women. This is me saying Trump was out of line and this is me saying that protesting against the status quo does not equate to a person hating America!
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There have been a total of 3 Republicans who have spoken out.
Only three that I know of.
Not exactly a groundswell of outrage and morality.
There are times when making partisan observations is entirely appropriate, despite how distasteful you may find it to be. This (to me) is one of those cases.
The percentage of GOP officials who have stood up against this type of deplorable behavior is in the single digits. Of those remaining 'Silent Sams', how many truly hate what he says and does? That's just it- none of us know, because crickets is all we get from them. Some probably do hate what they are seeing, Some might actually love his antics. We won't know who feels what until they finally start saying something- ANYTHING about this d00d. So when they finally grow a vertebra, it's perfectly fair to ask them why now, and not back then. Fair game. Voters deserve to know. After all, they were the ones who hired'em.
The Bernie/Hillary comparison is a false equivalence. Conventional campaign strategy is entirely different than making a moral and ethical call on a standing public official when he breaches mutually accepted behavioral standards.
This is partisan because IQ45 specifically went after 4 Dems in particular... and his statements should rightfully get pushback from all who see it differently. If past practice predicts future behavior, we won't see/hear from practically anyone with an R beside their names. So them stepping up when it's finally safe to do so should earn them no merit badges, imo.
Courage is the willingness to do what's right even when it's hard, inconvenient or even hazardous. Feel free to call it down the center if you'd like, but I'm perfectly willing to call them gutless if they wait to step up only when they see IQ45 limping around wounded (see DC's post above mine for context). Hyenas on the Serengeti serve a purpose in Nature. That sort of behavior has no place in the 202.
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Well, when people want change, they hate America.
Abe Lincoln hated America. Martin Luther King hated America. Ralph Waldo Emerson hated America. Harriet Beacher-Stowe hated America. Booker T Washington and WEB DuBois hated America. Rosa Parks hated America. JFK and Bobby Kennedy hated America.
For the record: This is not me saying I like those four women. This is me saying Trump was out of line and this is me saying that protesting against the status quo does not equate to a person hating America! I think trivializing what happened on 9/11/2001 is not protesting against the status quo. I think comparing the United States of America with terrorist organization that killed 3,000 Americans is not protesting against the status quo. Blatant anti Semitic rhetoric about an American ally in Israel is not protesting the status quo. Trump called them out and did so in a very poor fashion. He should have went after their extreme politics and not them personally. I agree.
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I think it is a mistake to try and label large groups of people. I would think that you, of all people, would understand that.
You can choose to be part of the solution or choose to be part of the problem. That is the truly great thing about this country. We have the power of "choice."
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Trump is kind of on an island. The rest of the GOP does not have his back or they would have addressed whatever those chicks were complaining about.
This whole presidency, the GOP wants nothing to do with him. You never hear a peep from them.
Is there going to be a coup?
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Dude, you quoted me but did not address what I said. I specifically said I wasn't championing those four women. I'm sorry, but you can't tell people of color to go back to where they came from when they are from here. I mean.........My God...how is that hard to understand?
Look, if he wanted to blast their political views, then more power to him. But, he crossed the ethical line.
I better leave this thread because I am getting frustrated w/both damn sides.
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Clem, this is interesting. Trump's approval rating w/Democratic voters fell 2 points since this week. His approval rating fell from 4 out of 10 w/Independent voters to 3 out of 10. Yet, his approval rating among Republican voters rose 5 percentage points to 72%.
This tells us that there are a lot of folks who agree w/him. They are claiming that if you don't like it here, leave. Sounds like BS to me.
The good news is that his overall scores are that 41% approve of the job he is doing and 55% do not. Yup. None of this comes as any surprise to me. Read some of the posts in this place, and you'll get an idea of just how many people agree with him. In their heart of hearts. I have to constantly remind myself that this forum is not an accurate microcosm of the US at large. Take your exchange with DotD as an example: I know folks from every strata- high class, mediocre, riff raff- and I'm only exposed to his type of rhetoric here. No place else. I have my theories as to why, but I'm not in the 'rabbit hole mood' tonight. Just like we're told: "Twitter isn't reality"... neither is this place.
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I think it is a mistake to try and label large groups of people. I know you do. I don't have a problem with that. I understand why you believe as you do. That isn't the issue for me. I'm not talking about large groups of people in this thread. I'm talking about elected Republican public officials specifically. About 300 specific Americans who are answerable to an electorate that hired them into their current jobs.
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Well - if you can't understand the concept of calling out racist comments by Trump - without having to be Pro AOC or any of the other 3 that Trump went after with his racist tweet, then I guess I don't know what to tell you.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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Just like we're told: "Twitter isn't reality"... neither is this place.
I wonder about that. It would be worthy of a thread in my opinion. I often wonder why there are such extreme points of view on this board? Are people showing their true colors because they think they are anonymous? That's kinda scary, bro. Hell, you would be laughed at, confronted, and maybe even have your ass kicked if you made some of the comments that are made on here every damn day in public. One other thing that is kinda related. You often tell me that that this isn't the place to have logical, rational discussions that seek to find solutions rather than partake in an exchange of insults. I kinda get that. On the other hand, where do we have a larger audience than on here? Are we going to go to our local WalMart or Mall and start speaking about such things? Are we going to run for government office? Are we going to take out political ads in the newspaper. I don't know, Clem. I have individual conversations w/folks all the time and most come across as moderate and detest the extremists, but they are one-on-one meetings. This is a place where a lot of people congregate. It seems to me it's a pretty good place to talk about your real beliefs.
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I've seen a few say the tweets were not racist.... If you tell someone/anyone, based on their color or last name or whatever, to "go back to your own country" - which is exactly what Trumps tweet said - what is it if not racist? If you don't think it's racist - what on God's green earth IS racist? You think someone has to use the N word? Or call them a racial slur in order to be racist? Is that what people think. I looked for world opinion - found this: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48998696How have world leaders reacted? The leaders of several US allies have come out against the president. New Zealand's Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said she "completely and utterly" disagreed with Mr Trump, while Canada's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau similarly denounced the comments. "That is not how we do things in Canada. A Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian," he said at a press conference. Both candidates for the British premiership condemned the attacks. Jeremy Hunt said he was "utterly appalled" by Mr Trump's tweets, and Boris Johnson said "you simply cannot use that kind of language about sending people back to where they came from". Prime Minister Theresa May had earlier said the remarks were "completely unacceptable".
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I think it is a mistake to try and label large groups of people. I know you do. I don't have a problem with that. I understand why you believe as you do. That isn't the issue for me. I'm not talking about large groups of people in this thread. I'm talking about elected Republican public officials specifically. About 300 specific Americans who are answerable to an electorate that hired them into their current jobs. LOL..........I like the feisty attitude. Think about this, though. We just talked about how the Republican voters approval rating went up 5 percent after his comments. Would it be wise for the politicians to upset their constituents? I think we both agree that they suck. I just say they suck on all sides. Clem, there will come a day when hoards of Republican politicians rip Trump to shreds. They just won't do it until that ship has sunk. It's politics, bro.
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Talk about your real beliefs? Then get labeled a jerk, an ass? Try to have a conversation with people that do/say the exact same thing they rail against?
Unless you hate trump and say so, there is no discussion here. Just hate.
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Then, there is this. I don't feel like cleaning it up. I'm tired. You can click on the link to read a more friendly version of the article. Anti-Defamation League blasts Trump for 'invoking support for Israel to defend this racism'Yahoo News David Knowles,Yahoo News 6 hours ago Reactions Reblog on Tumblr Share Tweet Email The Anti-Defamation League denounced President Trump’s “racist” tweets telling four Democratic congresswomen to “go back” to the “crime infested places from which they came.” In an op-ed published Tuesday for NBC News, ADL president Jonathan Greenblatt did not mince words, calling Trump’s rhetoric “ripped straight from a white supremacist manifesto.” Greenblatt wrote that Trump’s insistence Monday that the four congresswomen — Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts — hate America and Israel was troubling. “Trump’s language was absolutely and unquestionably racist despite his denials to the contrary,” Greenblatt wrote. The ADL, a civil rights organization founded to “stop the defamation of the Jewish people,” also noted on its website that Trump’s attack on the Democratic lawmakers “was greeted with enthusiasm by white supremacists and other extremists.” President Donald Trump speaks during a Cabinet meeting in the Cabinet Room of the White House, Tuesday, July 16, 2019, in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon) President Trump at a Cabinet meeting on Tuesday. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon) Neo-Nazi Andrew Anglin, for instance, applauded Trump on his website, the Daily Stormer. “Man, President Trump’s Twitter account has been pure fire lately. This might be the funniest thing he’s ever tweeted,” Anglin wrote. “This is the kind of WHITE NATIONALISM we elected him for. And we’re obviously seeing it only because there’s another election coming up. But I’ll tell you, even knowing that, it still feels so good.” The ADL was not the only U.S. Jewish group to decry Trump’s attacks on the congresswomen. Israel Policy Forum columnist Michael Koplow wrote that invoking Israel to defend Trump’s “vile racism” could ultimately cause more harm than good. Over the past two days, Trump has launched a campaign against the four congresswomen in what some have read to be a calculated effort to further divide the Democratic Party. Those efforts have not gone unnoticed by many Jews in Israel. “It seems the president would like to foment a civil war among Democrats, using Israel as a wedge,” Zev Chafets, a journalist and former senior aide to Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, wrote at Bloomberg. While Chafets, like Greenblatt, did not defend the views held by the Democratic lawmakers known collectively as “the Squad,” he did qualify them. “Nothing they say about this country will be any worse than the things you can hear in Israel’s own legislature, the Knesset, every day,” Chafets wrote. https://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-defamati...-184805174.html
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I think it is a mistake to try and label large groups of people. I know you do. I don't have a problem with that. I understand why you believe as you do. That isn't the issue for me. I'm not talking about large groups of people in this thread. I'm talking about elected Republican public officials specifically. About 300 specific Americans who are answerable to an electorate that hired them into their current jobs. LOL..........I like the feisty attitude. Think about this, though. We just talked about how the Republican voters approval rating went up 5 percent after his comments. Would it be wise for the politicians to upset their constituents? I think we both agree that they suck. I just say they suck on all sides. Clem, there will come a day when hoards of Republican politicians rip Trump to shreds. They just won't do it until that ship has sunk. It's politics, bro. What does that say about the republican voters?
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There have been a total of 3 Republicans who have spoken out.
Only three that I know of.
Not exactly a groundswell of outrage and morality.
There are times when making partisan observations is entirely appropriate, despite how distasteful you may find it to be. This (to me) is one of those cases.
The percentage of GOP officials who have stood up against this type of deplorable behavior is in the single digits. Of those remaining 'Silent Sams', how many truly hate what he says and does? That's just it- none of us know, because crickets is all we get from them. Some probably do hate what they are seeing, Some might actually love his antics. We won't know who feels what until they finally start saying something- ANYTHING about this d00d. So when they finally grow a vertebra, it's perfectly fair to ask them why now, and not back then. Fair game. Voters deserve to know. After all, they were the ones who hired'em.
The Bernie/Hillary comparison is a false equivalence. Conventional campaign strategy is entirely different than making a moral and ethical call on a standing public official when he breaches mutually accepted behavioral standards.
This is partisan because IQ45 specifically went after 4 Dems in particular... and his statements should rightfully get pushback from all who see it differently. If past practice predicts future behavior, we won't see/hear from practically anyone with an R beside their names. So them stepping up when it's finally safe to do so should earn them no merit badges, imo.
Courage is the willingness to do what's right even when it's hard, inconvenient or even hazardous. Feel free to call it down the center if you'd like, but I'm perfectly willing to call them gutless if they wait to step up only when they see IQ45 limping around wounded (see DC's post above mine for context). Hyenas on the Serengeti serve a purpose in Nature. That sort of behavior has no place in the 202.
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We just talked about how the Republican voters approval rating went up 5 percent after his comments. Would it be wise for the politicians to upset their constituents? I don't know about wise... it would be the courageous thing to do. Imagine that- calling out this kind of reprehensible talk is now considered 'courageous.' It would be the move that bet big on the chance that most of his constituents felt as he did, and not as 45 did. We talk about the inherent goodness of American People- this is the perfect litmus test. Right here. Because if not here, then where? What does he have to say that would cause elected officials to express their beliefs as you already have in this thread? That this is unacceptable? What would it take for them to step up just that freakking much? Nobody's even asking them to vote on a measure on the floor, where policy is at stake. Just be a decent citizen, and speak out against talk like this. What would he have to say that finally crossed their own personal lines? Because to date, he hasn't seemed to bother them at all. WTF do they stand for? Family values? Christian values? Common decency values? Dude tramples all of these on an endless loop, and- crickets. From ALL of them. So they don't call him out. They never have, even when he's said outrageous stuff like this before. This indicates to me that they don't even trust their own constituents enough to have their backs when 45 says blatantly offensive stuff like this. Stuff that makes their skin crawl. Clem, there will come a day when hoards of Republican politicians rip Trump to shreds. I'm not sure I can believe that at all. I've seen almost zero evidence that any of them possess the bone and cartilage it would take to be the first in that horde. Like you yourself said: "would this be wise?" Right now, there are a lot of 'wise' GOP politicians who seem perfectly content to keep their lips clamped shut- as they throw up a little in their mouths, 2-3 times per month. Good, decent, rank & file GOP electeds choking on his spew in silence is doing none of us any good. This bilious rhetoric is now one short step removed from 'blood and soil.' He's going to go there next. And I still don't trust any of them to be the first to stand with the rest of us. George Will called all of them [GOP] "invertebrate." George was right. If they don't add their voices to the crowds who mass at The Line Of Decency, they label themselves as 'enablers.' Sometimes, Vers... labels are absolutely appropriate. 
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I've seen a few say the tweets were not racist....
Let's put it this way...he wouldn't and he didn't say it to anybody who is white. So, how people can justify it as anything other than racist is beyond me. And, I'm sorry...but Mitch McConnell needs to go! I don't think there is anybody more out of touch than he is.
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I think comparing the United States of America with terrorist organization that killed 3,000 Americans is not protesting against the status quo. Let me pose something to you that will require you to look at something through the eyes of others. Let's pretend for just a minute that you were an Iraqi citizens when the war in Iraq broke out. America told the world that Saddam had tons of WMD. That he had a nuclear weapons program. Yet your country had nothing to do with 9/11. So America attacked your country. In the process your home and town was blown to hell. They pretty much destroyed your country and drove it into chaos. Several of your family members were killed. And in the end, those accusations made by America were all false. In your eyes, who would be the terrorists? Sometimes I think people need to look at things through the eyes of others. To see that the world has their own reasons to see us much differently than we see ourselves. And at some point we need to step up and recognize it. That doesn't mean you hate America. It means you're willing to step up and own the mistakes we've made.
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There have been a total of 3 Republicans who have spoken out.
Only three that I know of.
Not exactly a groundswell of outrage and morality. In the recent house resolution to condemn his comments as racists, only 4 republicans and 1 independent (Amash) voted with democrats to condemn what he said.. so you are pretty close..
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when one is constantly defending racism and people who state racist things, they completely leave themselves open to the idea that they themselves are racist, or sympathize with them.
its a very simply question with a simple answer: would trump have ever said this to a group of 4 white women?
no.
also, i've increasingly grown annoyed and intolerant of the "both sides" losers in this country. either you support racism or you don't. either you think telling american citizens to go back to their countries based on ethnicity is racist or you don't.
constantly straddling the line is not only weak, its pathetic and does absolutely nothing to help solve issues.
you centrist on this board do so much backflips searching for that ever elusive compromise when there is none. either you support racism and racist or you don't. there's no moral equivalency, no "but the other side", none of that.
only one party is pandering the alt-right, neo nazi, white supremacist/nationalist, misogynist losers in this country, and thats the GOP.
every time any one of you tries to defend it or play "what about", you are sending the message loud and clear to people who look like me that we are still considered second class citizens in this country, and that white americans will always remain superior, not only legislatively, but morally as well.
anyone who defends trump language is a racist. period.
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I haven't seen one self described "centrist" not stand up against what Trump said. Not one. I think your issue is with others.
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Many Republicans are speaking out... Ben Carson defends Trump amid feud with House Dems: 'He's not a racist'HUD Secretary Ben Carson says Trump's record shows he is not racist
President Trump is not racist and neither are his comments on progressive Democrat congresswomen, Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson says.Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Secretary Ben Carson defended President Trump from charges of racism Wednesday, saying the Commander-in-Chief is not a racist and loves his country. "I have an advantage of knowing the president very well, and he's not a racist and his comments are not racist," Carson said on "America's Newsroom." "But he loves the country very much and, you know, he has a feeling that those who represent the country should love it as well." Carson said Trump's policies speak for themselves and have lifted minorities out of poverty by expanding employment opportunities and providing affordable housing. He also said a racist wouldn't be interested in helping poor, minority communities whatsoever. "Look at his policies, you know, under this president you see the rising tide lifting all boats. You see low unemployment ... record-low for blacks, for Hispanics ... for all the demographics of our nation," he said. The former presidential candidate touted the administration's support for "opportunity zones," which he spoke about alongside Trump at a cabinet meeting Tuesday. "What's happening in some of these places is just astonishing. And talking to some of those people there ... they say I didn't think this could ever happen," said Carson. "And just a couple of weeks ago, the president signed an executive order establishing a council on eliminating the barriers to affordable housing. Who's going to benefit from that? So when you have somebody who's spending this much time and this much effort, trying to elevate those who are vulnerable and who are suffering in our society -- I think we should pay a lot more attention to what they are doing than what anybody is saying." Carson also decried the idea of victimhood and said the beauty of America is the ability to overcome financial struggles to rise up and be the best you can be. "I have to look at my own situation, born and growing up in dire poverty with a lot negativity around me, but also, recognizing that I lived in a place where, you know, through the help of my mother, who helped me to realize that I wasn't a victim, that I had access to all kinds of things. And [I] was able to go on, become a neurosurgeon, now a cabinet member, and these are things that we want people to recognize in our nation and that's why we want to create opportunities for them," he said. "All the policies that we're now espousing deal with creating self-sufficiency in people and in those people who cannot become self-sufficient, making sure that we take care of them in the most efficient and effective manner." https://www.foxnews.com/media/ben-carson-trump-not-racist
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ive seen plenty moral equivalency/both sides arguments from the centrist/moderates/flip floppers, whatever term they wish to be described as.
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this entire thread was absolutely disappointing to read through.
sad. really sad.
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i mean we got people who SERIOUSLY think we're all gonna "Come together" and we "heal the divide" and all this other hippy crap with a racist actively sitting in the oval.
yea, we're all gonna come together while he's in office. sure. hows that "understanding" BS working out so far...
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its a very simply question with a simple answer: would trump have ever said this to a group of 4 white women? No. He probably would have come up with something similarly vulgar, it just wouldn't have been racist.
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And that’s what’s sad.
It’s always something with him. Gotta attack non whites, gotta attack women, gotta attack LBGT.
And it’s not like anybody has to make it up. He’s given us more than enough evidence to accurately describe him as a racist, sexist, homophobic loser.
But like it said, it’s says even more about the people who continue to defend him despite evidence after evidence proving he’s a POS.
I actually agree with PD when he says trump might win again. Trump didn’t need the popular vote last time to win either.
The last few weeks, people telling me that we need to come together and stop the divide have fallen on deaf ears. It won’t happen, not under trump Atleast.
And if he wins again, I wonder what the next excuses will be. I’m sure conservatives will continue to tell me they don’t support racism.
Uh huh.
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Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Is this acceptable from anyone?
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