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So, by the OP's logic, the fact that the Left absolutely refuses to discuss the highest high school dropout rate among all ethnic groups, for generations, the highest rate of teenage pregnancy among all ethnic groups, for generations, and the highest rate of single parent households, for generations, each being strong pointers to poverty and other negative outcomes, all three together being a near guarantee of poverty and other negative outcomes, means that they personally are responsible for all the poverty and other negative outcomes in the black community.

Racist, bigot, racist, bigot, racist, bigot. Racist, racist, racist, bigot, bigot, bigot, racist,bigot, racist, bigot.

Just STFU already and do something useful for a change.



The most alarming aspect of posts like these is that there are others like him. They are in our neighborhoods. Our stores. Our schools. Our government.


And they are the self proclaimed smart ones.


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I understand the absolute terror you internalize at even attempting to discuss the core issues as I have stated them.

Multiple opportunities, total failure. At least you are no longer trotting out "we talk about this all the time." Even though you never have, this has been stated repeatedly. Why was that? Did you come to the understanding that the statement includes an admission of the problem's existence?

Have you bothered to look at the two most successful, and certainly oppressed ethnic groups in this country, Indians (dots not feathers), and Jews, and see what their stats are in the same categories?

I will give you a clue, their kids do not drop out of high school, their teenagers do not get pregnant, couples with kids get married and stay together, and they are doing just fine financially. They do these because their CULTURE, and their COMMUNITY, will not tolerate otherwise. These things do happen in these groups, but they are MUCH less common. The reasons are INTERNAL to the group, not EXTERNAL.

Can't discuss that, it underlines the failure, and there is no one to point to and blame.

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And while we're at it, let's discuss the huge opioid crisis in the white suburbs. Let's discuss the poor education of white America in the deep south. Though that's more meth territory.

Why target a certain sector and leave out the other? Seems like you pick and choose. That sounds familiar.


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The title of this thread. Speaks a lot about the mentality of some people.

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I worry just as much about those who refuse to own up to the fact that he sent racist tweets. This is a double edged sword.


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So Im curious as to what you would think a black person that supports TRUMP should be labeled?

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I didn't label anyone but an obvious racist. People can follow any leader they want. They can vote foe anyone they want. Maybe you really didn't mean to address your post to me....


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Unless you just have not been paying attention, those things HAVE been discussed, and as with many things, it is all a matter of compared to WHAT?

No one calls you a racist or a bigot for discussing the opioid crisis among suburban whites, no one calls you a racist or bigot for discussion of poor education in the deep south. On that score, I do not see the claimed racial distinction. Opioids, yes, southern education, no.

The problems are not excused by calling racism and the causes do not indicate a systemic cultural and community failure in a high percentage of the group. On a small scale, there are some similarities. There is the one, and there is the many. On a large scale, it is a much larger problem. Kinda obvious, ain't it? Multiple factors interact to compound the problem with exponential growth.

What are the poverty and incarceration statistics for the two groups when compared? As a percentage of the ethnic whole, not as total population? Don't limit yourself to just whites and blacks, look at ALL ethnic groups.

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I'll add this: I didn't vote for Obama. And for 8 years if I disagreed with a single thing he did, I was called a racist. Even though I agreed with much he did.

I voted FOR Trump, as opposed to hillary. And now, if I support 1 single thing he does, I'm called a racist. A xenophobe, a bigot, and more names. I don't agree with all he's done/said. Yet somehow, I get called names again.

Sounds to me like the lefties like calling others names.

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Here, the 5 worst states for education, according to the latest data.

Texas
Arizona
Arkansas
Alabama
Mississippi

I guess if you wish to exclude the history of a race that helps add to the issues you described that's your choice.

If you wish to ignore that schools with a higher tax base get more funding that's your choice.

Looking at things in a bubble can promote a certain perception. When you expand that bubble to include factors that contributed to the situation that picture become much more murky.


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And they are the self proclaimed smart ones.


Damn near everybody that posts here is a self proclaimed smart one.


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Not me. I do my best to inform myself on the differing topics of discussion to help me form my opinions. But in the grand scheme of things I understand I'm not really all that smart.

Or were you meaning on a general scale in this forum? Because that may change things a bit.


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Or were you meaning on a general scale in this forum?


I thought that was pretty clear.


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I wasn't smart enough to pick up on that.

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OCD didn't even vote?

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And I get labeled a racist, even though my daughter is dating a Mexican (hey, that's what he, and his parents call themselves. Not Latino's), and I get labeled a homophobe, even though my son is gay.

Shows how dumb some are tossing out labels.

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And I get labeled a racist, even though my daughter is dating a Mexican (hey, that's what he, and his parents call themselves. Not Latino's), and I get labeled a homophobe, even though my son is gay.

Shows how dumb some are tossing out labels.


Call me whatever you want if it makes you feel better. Being a jackass isn't going to change my worldview and it will just reveal more and more that they're unstable more than it is going to prove me whatever "ist" or "phobe" they are slinging around.

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And I get labeled a racist, even though my daughter is dating a Mexican (hey, that's what he, and his parents call themselves. Not Latino's), and I get labeled a homophobe, even though my son is gay.

Shows how dumb some are tossing out labels.


Call me whatever you want if it makes you feel better. Being a jackass isn't going to change my worldview and it will just reveal more and more that they're unstable more than it is going to prove me whatever "ist" or "phobe" they are slinging around.


Not sure what I missed and I am heading out the door.... Not calling you or Arch anything. I said and maintain that the Trump tweets to the four women of color, 3 of which were born in the USA, telling them to go back to their crime infested countries was Racist. . . . . Do you agree or not?


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If after all the years on these boards, you and I learned to get along, EVERYONE can find peace with each other. wink

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And I get labeled a racist, even though my daughter is dating a Mexican (hey, that's what he, and his parents call themselves. Not Latino's), and I get labeled a homophobe, even though my son is gay.

Shows how dumb some are tossing out labels.


Call me whatever you want if it makes you feel better. Being a jackass isn't going to change my worldview and it will just reveal more and more that they're unstable more than it is going to prove me whatever "ist" or "phobe" they are slinging around.


Um, I was agreeing with your post. And adding to it.

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On phone ... traveling... sorry didn't see other posts.


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
And I get labeled a racist, even though my daughter is dating a Mexican (hey, that's what he, and his parents call themselves. Not Latino's), and I get labeled a homophobe, even though my son is gay.

Shows how dumb some are tossing out labels.


Arch, same thing here. My stepsons are so mixed they can claim whatever ethnic heritage they want. I don't care as long as they're good people. My son is dating a girl that's dominican. I don't care as long as she's good for him and he's happy. One of my stepsons is gay, and I don't care as long as he's happy. I get called a nazi, racist, and fascist by people that don't know a damn thing about me.

Isn't funny that the most racist among us are always the ones that accuse others and scream the loudest?


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Racist sympathizers always seemed to have mixed grand babies or kids dating outside the race.

That’s not evidence that they themselves aren’t racist. Especially since they voted for one.


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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I mean seriously, we basically went back to “I have a black friend” comments. It’s hilarious the lengths people will go through to justify their bigotry.


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Racist sympathizers always seemed to have mixed grand babies or kids dating outside the race.

That’s not evidence that they themselves aren’t racist. Especially since they voted for one.


I must be so racist, that I completely forgot to raise my kids to be racist. Now that's an obsession.

Racists have mixed kids because they're racist? I'm starting to think you don't know what the word racist means.

Oh no, I just made a racist statement by accusing someone of not knowing something.

Damn you racist libs are silly. Oh no, more hate speech.


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Lol what nonsense did you just post?

Nothing will justify you voting for a racist. Nothing.


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Got it. Thanks for explaining it to me. Despite every thing I've done in my life, despite my friends...........I'm a racist in your opinion. Neat.

That explains a lot about you.

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Also explains a lot about you jumping through hoops to justify your vote for a racist.

Oh well lol


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So, you think I'm a racist, a xenophobe, a sexist, and a ........whatever else name?

Really?

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If only they would allow FOX to hold a Democrat debate.

Q -Yes, sissy half man, what is your economic plan for America's future?

A -Trump sucks.

Q -That really isn't an answer.

A -Racist!

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Lost in all this self-pity crap is what Trump actually said. The man actually told four American citizens of color to go back to where they came from.

I don't care about your own personal plights. I do care about our president making racist comments and then having the people who voted for his stanky self deflecting the bullets that have rightfully been fired in his direction.

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Lol what nonsense did you just post?

Nothing will justify you voting for a racist. Nothing.


You don't like Trump because he's white. Racist.


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No, telling anyone to go back where they came from is not racist.

It may be ignorant or nasty but it isn't racist.

Only the Libs in this country are crying racism because it fits their agenda.

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Lol what nonsense did you just post?

Nothing will justify you voting for a racist. Nothing.


You don't like Trump because he's white. Racist.


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People across the globe are saying it was racist and a disgrace.

Btw.........it was also ignorant.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
People across the globe are saying it was racist and a disgrace.

Btw.........it was also ignorant.



People across the globe supported Globalism until Trump ended the abomination.

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You are deflecting again. But whatever..........

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People across the globe are saying it was racist and a disgrace.

Btw.........it was also ignorant.



People across the globe supported Globalism until Trump ended the abomination.


See - here is a great example of what I was talking about earlier. This is such a silly thing to say that here, in this particular post, I know you are just trolling. Not even you actually could believe what you just wrote, all you are trying to do is illicit a reaction.


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Point being the world can stuff it when it comes to America and our politics.

If they were so wise they wouldn't need us to babysit and protect their puny lives.

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