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As if anybody needed any proof that it was never about “I just couldn’t let Hillary be president”

I love you guys with your fake moral compasses. Just admit you’re a diehard republican and be done with it. Y’all lose more respect pretending to be independents by the day.

Trump will always be the rights response to the first black president. A bigoted, racist, sexist, con man, who represents the conservative base in its true nature.

I will always laugh at the people who keep claiming that was the reason they voted for trump. Always.

A big, freaking, hilarious lie.


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If they actually believe in the things they claim to stand for......

Christian values, family values and morality, they could never vote for someone who has spit in the face of all of their values.

The man lies like nobody I have ever seen. And they know it. Multiple times on a daily basis. He spreads hate and division. Cheating on all three wives hits both family and Christian values. He's pond scum.

But they'll claim to care about all of those supposed values while they vote for him anyway.


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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
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Now you're just being obtuse.


No I was being honest.


I'm really surprised you consider this a serious question, but okay.

So you don't see the difference between the question you're asking and denying a person service due to who they marry? My point is discriminating because of someone's sexuality. Because of who they are.

And you don't see the difference here?


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Christian values, family values and morality, they could never vote for someone who has spit in the face of all of their values.


This is the reason I call them Kristyunz... because there is absolutely nothing Christ-like about them or their behavior(s).


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Why do you feel the need to respond to the straw man argument?

The supreme court exists because laws sometimes step on each others toes. The United States Code has something like 54 volumes, each containing tens of thousands of pages. State Laws can be similarly numerous. The role of the Supreme Court is to help handle "tiebreakers", it's that simple.

If GM wants to know if his straw man is good, he should tell us when he goes in to bake a cake with those words, and how his lawsuit goes when the cake owner says no way. Or maybe he'll find a baker who will actually do it rofl


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Because GM and I have been friends both on and off the board for a very long time.


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GM was on the board back when people posted on stone tablets tongue


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Originally Posted By: Swish
As if anybody needed any proof that it was never about “I just couldn’t let Hillary be president”

I love you guys with your fake moral compasses. Just admit you’re a diehard republican and be done with it. Y’all lose more respect pretending to be independents by the day.

Trump will always be the rights response to the first black president. A bigoted, racist, sexist, con man, who represents the conservative base in its true nature.

I will always laugh at the people who keep claiming that was the reason they voted for trump. Always.

A big, freaking, hilarious lie.



Your type of attitude supports why I will vote for Trump in 2020.


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And I will cancel your vote with mine.
I'll consider it a public service.

Why? Because Swish has just nailed at least 40% of 45's base, along with their motivation(s)... and you just proved him right.

It will be an honor turning your vote into dust.
Others can thank me later.
You don't need to say anything.



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But you were already a hater so his vote wipes out yours.

But my Trump vote still smells like victory. Again.

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I'll lump you right in with him then. Same arrogant, modern, democrat know it all attitude when you actually don't know a damn thing.

Your attitude and over confidence will be why you lose again. You didn't learn from last time in 2016 and STILL don't understand why you lost, which is mind blowing to me. Your party is a shell of what it used to be. Its been hijacked by socialists.


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If you have read the Progressive thread where the guys on the left aren't interested in working together for the nation and instead want to categorize all folks from a certain class into one.........then you might want to read it because your opinion might change as to whose vote will be dust.

I am not voting for anyone who doesn't respect me and others like me. And bro, there are a ton of people just like me. We want to help. We want to cooperate. But, don't expect us to say look away while those folks urinate on our shoes.

You wanna war w/us? Good freaking luck!

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But you were already a hater so his vote wipes out yours.

But my Trump vote still smells like victory. Again.


Last time I checked, 'victory' didn't smell like I was standing downwind of a feed lot.


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You mistake what I say to tasty as some sort of attack on you or your sensibilities.

Read his posts before judging me. He's not interested in dialogue, so he gets the opposite of dialogue.

I'm all for cooperation and conversation, but I'm not wasting my time on those who are already nose-deep up Trumps sweaty jock strap. It's the same reason people like 40¢ get nothing but snark and shade from me these days. I gave them all a fair shake in the early days. Squandered opportunities run them out of re-do's after awhile.

I've been here at PP a lot longer than you, my friend. I know these people, because they've already shown me who they are for years.

Please do not presume to preach to me in this fashion, or I may end up feeling about you the same way I now feel about someone I used to consider a friend. He and I will not be finding our way back to each other anytime soon, and I'd hate for us to end up the same way.

If you can't discern my troll posts from my sincere ones, PM me with a question first before making things public. I'll answer honestly. Take me on in public, and things will not go well. At all.


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Aight. Do what you gotta do.

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i swear to god there are some straight up beta males on this board. i mean we got grown ass men claiming that random dudes on DT is what will make them vote for trump again in 2020. we got dudes claiming they won't vote for certain candidates based on what some of their supporters say.

Thats like saying you won't support MLK because some of his supporters werent nice to you. i mean thats some straight up baby back......you know what lemme stop because i know the refs have been playing hot potato with the ban hammer when it comes to me today.

at the end of the day, a lot of you say one thing, but do another. you claimed you wanted somebody who loved and respected the military, a patriot, so you voted for a draft dodger who disrespected a good star family and claimed McCain wasn't a hero, sucks up to dictators and authoritarian figures, and funneled funds raised for vets into his campaign accounts.

you claimed you wanted a christian man back in office, so you voted for a guy who has 5 kids by 3 different women, cheated on all of them, one with an adult film star and playboy bunny, called his political opponents who were women derogatory names while campaigning, and can't even name passages in the bible to begin with.

i can go on and on and on with the blatant displays of hypocrisy and throwing away the so called "Values" you conservatives claimed you have.

this guy has emboldened the straight up scum of this country. he has made the white nationalist, klan, nazi's, and alt-right losers feel empowered to spread their hate for those who don't look like them completely out in public.

the guy is literally funneling OUR tax money into his personal bank accounts by constantly going to his personal properties, forcing agencies to buy services and equipment at his businesses in order to provide security. of course he doesn't take his 400k a year salary. he's making MILLIONS the other way.

but the beta males on this board will go "it doesn't matter if he's taking our money swish, you're being a big ole meanie and i dont like it!!!"

what a bunch of soft ass crap. if your ability to vote or not vote for a candidate is based on what someone attitude on a message board/social media account toward you, that is literally proof that you are a danger to the public at large.

my support for Mayor Pete, or Warren, is not based on what jules or rocket or anyone else thinks. its about what I think about their policies. just because i might get into a beef with OCD doesnt mean i will stop supporting sanders if he's going 1 vs 1 against trump. my support for mayor pete isn't based on jules and i's disagreement on whether he's electable.

its simply immature to think like that.

"omg liberals are being mean so im forced to vote for a racist"

"omg swish is being a big jerk so now i wanna vote for roy moore"

lol...man WHAT?

so disappointing. so, so, so disappointing.


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i swear to god there are some straight up beta males on this board.


Good one.

I'm strong enough to not vote w/a group of people that preaches hate and resorts to insulting those who are not like them.

You go on w/your "alpha" self and see where it gets you.

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its gotten me quite far, thanks.


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It was about as much of a compliment as you calling me "feminine." Dude, no way in the world would you say that to my face. Zero chance.

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I don't understand, what difference would your getting hurt do?

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i absolutely would.


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Correct.

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i absolutely would.

Right.

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I'm really surprised you consider this a serious question, but okay.

So you don't see the difference between the question you're asking and denying a person service due to who they marry? My point is discriminating because of someone's sexuality. Because of who they are.

And you don't see the difference here?


If I remember the whole thing correctly (and please correct me if I am wrong) The Baker did not refuse to sell them a cake. He refused to decorate it the way they wanted. I don't agree with him BUT if he feels that it's against his religion he should not have to do it.


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Thus began my penchant for one line posts and no spell check.


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If I remember the whole thing correctly (and please correct me if I am wrong) The Baker did not refuse to sell them a cake. He refused to decorate it the way they wanted. I don't agree with him BUT if he feels that it's against his religion he should not have to do it.


As I said, it was because of who they were. Because of their sexuality. That is the point where religion is being used as a tool of discrimination.

You favor religion being used that way. I side that people shouldn't be able to use religion as a tool to discriminate against others. We just disagree here.


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You favor religion being used that way. I side that people shouldn't be able to use religion as a tool to discriminate against others. We just disagree here.


and I believe people should not be able to discriminate against others because of their religion.

But your right we just disagree. cool


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So it was the baker who was discriminated against? Did his customers refuse to conduct their business profession with the baker?


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Don't know why people bother to post. It's the same BS all the time anyways. No one voted for Trump because of his Christian values. They voted for him because the only other option was the traitor Hillary. A woman so vile that if you could stomach to vote for her then you just love evil people period. So just stop with the insults to Christians just because Liberals failed to produce someone worthy of voting for.

Something liberals don't understand is that as Americans we are FREE. That means we don't have to care about your identity politics where you segregate and discriminate against those who don't think the way you like.

I get that you want to enslave business owners and force them to make a product that goes against their beliefs but thankfully the Supreme court has upheld that American still have some religious freedom left. The Baker won his day in court for good reason. If you don't like how a business is run then don't go there or buy their services. These armies of lawsuits to ruin businesses that liberals don't like just goes to show they KNOW people don't agree with them and they can't trust the public to side with them to boycott the business.

Just be honest and accept that both sides will never agree with each other and leave each other in peace.


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Washington (CNN)The Supreme Court ruled in favor of a Colorado baker who refused to bake a cake to celebrate the marriage of a same sex couple because of a religious objection.
The ruling was 7-2.
The court held that the Colorado Civil Rights Commission showed hostility toward the baker based on his religious beliefs. The ruling is a win for baker Jack Phillips, who cited his beliefs as a Christian, but leaves unsettled broader constitutional questions on religious liberty.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/04/politics/...ourt/index.html


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So you use the law to make your case. But when marijuana wasn't legal you felt the law was wrong. Just because something is law doesn't make it right. Unless of course you agree with it.


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Back on topic: Trump is a racists POS.

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So you use the law to make your case. But when marijuana wasn't legal you felt the law was wrong. Just because something is law doesn't make it right. Unless of course you agree with it.


I am saying the law agreed with the Baker. Not saying it made my case. Common sense already made my case.

I still feel the law on marijuana is wrong, as is the law on legal abortions, and many, many other laws, as I am sure you will agree with me that many laws are wrong in our opinions.


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GOP challenger Bill Weld: Trump is a "raging racist"

Washington (CNN)Former Massachusetts governor and longshot candidate for the Republican nomination for president Bill Weld levied a series of attacks against his primary opponent, President Donald Trump, dubbing him a "raging racist."

"Donald Trump is a raging racist, Okay? He's a complete and thoroughgoing racist. And he made that choice, a choice a long time ago, when he was engaged in the housing business in New York with his father," Weld said, speaking at the NAACP convention in Detroit on Wednesday.

He added: "The national Republican Party, has a choice. And a lot of them like to think that it's a political choice. But it's not a political choice. It's a moral choice."

"Unless the Republican Party in Washington expressly, expressly rejects the racism of Donald Trump, they're going to come to be universally viewed as the party of racism in America," the long-shot challenger to Trump said.

Weld's comments come a week after Trump lodged racist attacks at Democratic Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Rashida Tlaib of Michigan, Illhan Omar of Minnesota and Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts when he tweeted that they should "go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came."

The tweets were widely condemned by congressional Democrats and some Republicans, and the House passed a resolution condemning the racist language Trump used.

Weld, the former two-term Republican governor of Massachusetts, officially announced his primary challenge to Trump in April, making him the President's only Republican opponent so far in the 2020 election. In 2016, Weld was the vice presidential nominee on the Libertarian Party ticket with former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson.

Weld is a staunch critic of the President, telling CNN's Jake Tapper on "The Lead" in April that it would be a "political tragedy" and he would "fear for the Republic" if the country had six more years of Trump as president.

And, prodded by the release of a redacted version of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, Weld ratcheted up his rhetoric against the President, calling for his resignation.

"If Donald Trump is an American patriot, he should resign from office," Weld wrote in an op-ed published in The Bulwark, an online platform that publishes conservative commentary, in April.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/politics/bill-weld-donald-trump-raging-racist-naacp/index.html

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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
Common sense already made my case.


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And that statement right there should scare the crap out of every American. We can now refuse somebody their liberty using theological religious beliefs. Smh. I’m not sure but doesn’t the KKK claim they are a religion?

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And that statement right there should scare the crap out of every American. We can now refuse somebody their liberty using theological religious beliefs. Smh. I’m not sure but doesn’t the KKK claim they are a religion?


This might help.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

As I said when the cake mess all started, who's rights are more important? The baker and his guarantee of free exersise of his religion, or the gay couple to buy a wedding cake and specifically went to that baker.


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I don't know what other laws might apply - but any person of religion who is in a business enterprise has the potential to infringe others rights by denying their services to potential customers based on their beliefs.

If they are 'forced' to serve all customer's equally regardless of religion - then their 'liberty' or right to follow their religion is not being infringed upon ... they can follow their religion to their hearts content, just not run a business where they serve the public. Serve all equally regardless of religion - or do not start a business.

On the other hand if all businesses are free to run their business and discriminate against anyone and everyone based on their religious beliefs .... then potentially you can infringe the rights of many 'customers', everyday, all day, all the time.

Whichever side of the coin you come down on - someone is being 'infringed upon' to some extent. Personally I would put the onus on the person of religion - if you want to follow your faith, don't own a business which puts you into alleged conflict with customers ... as for people who are supposed to believe in God who want to not love 'everyone' - I find that disturbing. Reminds me of a good friend whose kids opened the door to some religious door to door knockers .... the door knocker asked the kids "what does God mean to you" and the 6 year old replied "love I guess" .... and the door knocker said, "No that's not right child...." the mother had arrived by that time and said, ok you can leave. (and the mother of the household was very religious)


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And those establishments can potentially go out of business. As I recall, this baker had Christian crosses in his sign, so he was advertising his faith. There were plenty other bakers in the area. No where have I ever heard a business was forced to do business with a customer they don't want.


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