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They represent the people in their districts. They don't represent you and they don't represent me.


Pish tosh.
They represent all you godless Libbies.
That's how this works, didn't you know?


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Well now.

Look who is finally coming around. thumbsup

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He as well as a lot of us came around to mocking you a very long time ago. Nothing new.


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I have been watching white liberals helping the Black community for most of my life and now I am seeing the very same destructive path I have always witnessed.

It all begins with, "Let us help you."

I have told Swish and any other Black person I have ever known the same thing...

When the white liberal comes offering to help your Race, RUN!

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white progressives are great. im friends with a lot of those guys.

its the white mods who are the issue. MLK brought them up for a reason.


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"First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."

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40, he wrote that while sitting in jail.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
white progressives are great. im friends with a lot of those guys.

its the white mods who are the issue. MLK brought them up for a reason.


Yesterday's white mods are today's white libs.
Times have changed. Beware.

(also, I meant to post this and my first post in the other thread) oops.

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A top CEO calls out Trump's racism

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/22/business/siemens-ceo-joe-kaeser-trump/index.html

shouldnt have done that, bro. you know trump has been looking for any reason to drop tariffs on german companies, cause of....lol, "national security" reasons.


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What you don't seem to grasp is that time has changed the very definition of what "moderate" actually means. I consider myself a moderate because I'm not for everything being paid for by the tax payers. I believe a lot of money can be saved by stopping government waste and helping cut the costs of things like healthcare, education, prescription drugs and many other things.

I have always supported equality for everyone. I've always stood against the mass incarceration rates of blacks and latinos. I've always stood for equal education in all communities. I've always stood for gay rights.

Moderate doesn't mean what it used to. Just like Reagan republicans aren't what we're seeing in their party today.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
A top CEO calls out Trump's racism

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/22/business/siemens-ceo-joe-kaeser-trump/index.html

shouldnt have done that, bro. you know trump has been looking for any reason to drop tariffs on german companies, cause of....lol, "national security" reasons.


You talking about the NATO member Germany that is running pipelines to buy its Nat Gas from Russia?

Yea, no national threat there.

Moving on now.

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Trump should build a gas pipeline under the ocean to supply Europe!


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Someday I will explain to you why that won't work.

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I guess Europe should just do without natural gas then.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: Swish
A top CEO calls out Trump's racism

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/22/business/siemens-ceo-joe-kaeser-trump/index.html

shouldnt have done that, bro. you know trump has been looking for any reason to drop tariffs on german companies, cause of....lol, "national security" reasons.


You talking about the NATO member Germany that is running pipelines to buy its Nat Gas from Russia?

Yea, no national threat there.

Moving on now.

Siemens is a private company that employs over 50,000 people in the United States and generates $25 billion in revenue in this country... WTF difference does it make where Germany gets their natural gas?


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Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: Swish
A top CEO calls out Trump's racism

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/22/business/siemens-ceo-joe-kaeser-trump/index.html

shouldnt have done that, bro. you know trump has been looking for any reason to drop tariffs on german companies, cause of....lol, "national security" reasons.


You talking about the NATO member Germany that is running pipelines to buy its Nat Gas from Russia?

Yea, no national threat there.

Moving on now.

Siemens is a private company that employs over 50,000 people in the United States and generates $25 billion in revenue in this country... WTF difference does it make where Germany gets their natural gas?


Read the article...

"The CEO of German industrial giant Siemens says..."

Then read Swish's comment...

"trump has been looking for any reason to drop tariffs on german companies, cause of....lol, "national security" reasons."

German, Siemens, Tariffs, National Security reasons.

I can't keep translating for you. READ!

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Obviously you failed your translator course.


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He's not particularly good at insulting either...


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You guys should just stick with posting racist remarks to Swish.

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Trump is so much better than we are.


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Trump is so much better than we are.


Finally, you said something that is true.

Trump is so much better than you.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
You guys should just stick with posting racist remarks to Swish.

Why would I do that? I love Swish, I would post the video of the two of us doing The Git Up together but he won't let me.


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Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN
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You guys should just stick with posting racist remarks to Swish.

Why would I do that?


According to his replies to you and what I read, he doesn't understand why you would do that either.

That makes two of us.

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So then do you condemn the Squad and their ideologies? Yes or no?


So people of different heritage that are women trigger you that much, eh?

You better get used to them. They're not going anywhere. I'm also 99.9% sure AOC will win her first attempt at the presidency whenever she decides to run.

Those "scary Venuzela socialist ideas!!!!" that are actually social democratic ideas from the UK poll well with most Americans; they also poll incredibly well with my generation.

Enjoy your last grasps of jingoism, white nationalism, and worshiping the rich. The reckoning towards a brighter future of Americans soon approaches.


So everyone that doesn't agree with you is automatically racist? Got it.

I believe in individual liberty, individual freedoms, and capitalism. Capitalism is the most successful economic system ever devised and the United States is an example of that. If you don't like it you can leave it.


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So then do you condemn the Squad and their ideologies? Yes or no?


So people of different heritage that are women trigger you that much, eh?

You better get used to them. They're not going anywhere. I'm also 99.9% sure AOC will win her first attempt at the presidency whenever she decides to run.

Those "scary Venuzela socialist ideas!!!!" that are actually social democratic ideas from the UK poll well with most Americans; they also poll incredibly well with my generation.

Enjoy your last grasps of jingoism, white nationalism, and worshiping the rich. The reckoning towards a brighter future of Americans soon approaches.


So everyone that doesn't agree with you is automatically racist? Got it.

I believe in individual liberty, individual freedoms, and capitalism. Capitalism is the most successful economic system ever devised and the United States is an example of that. If you don't like it you can leave it.


Screaming 'racist' at conservatives has been their gig for the last 20 years or longer. I don't think it works very well anymore.


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Those "scary Venuzela socialist ideas!!!!" that are actually social democratic ideas from the UK poll well with most Americans; they also poll incredibly well with my generation.

As they should.. their generally consistent .5% per year GDP growth should be emulated globally...


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in 2018 Many African Countries were exhibiting GDP growth of 6.5% or more (US is 2.8%), I don't see anyone arguing to emulate African governments. Especially Libya which had 17.8% GDP growth.

What is your basis for trying to correlate GDP growth as a marker of socialist ideas? If your basis is that economic output goes away, then that's a horrible correlation. It's convenient to cherry pick UK's GDP growth (which was 1.3% not 0.5%) against the US's 2.8% in 2018. Especially if we ignore other "socialist dystopian" countries like Sweden (2.3%) Austria (2.7%), Ireland (6.8%) Poland (5.0%) Switzerland (2.5%) .

It's great that you can correlate GDP growth and economic health, but you aren't servicing other people with that knowledge if you spew FUD along with it.


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in 2018 Many African Countries were exhibiting GDP growth of 6.5% or more (US is 2.8%), I don't see anyone arguing to emulate African governments. Especially Libya which had 17.8% GDP growth.

You never said you wanted to emulate African countries in your post that I responded to or I would have addressed that.

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It's convenient to cherry pick UK's GDP growth (which was 1.3% not 0.5%) against the US's 2.8% in 2018.

I didn't cherry pick anything, you said "social democratic ideas from the UK poll well with most Americans" in your post that I was addressing... so I went with the UK, whose economy has been quite sluggish for a while now.... and my .5% wasn't for one year, it was about an average of the last 10 years, they have been fluctuating between about .2% and 1.5%.


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You must have me confused with someone else, I never said "social democratic ideas from the UK poll well with most Americans"


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Originally Posted By: tastybrownies
If you don't like it you can leave it.


I would love to see a Native American come up and tell you that.

I'm glad our forefathers didn't take your advice. Those who love America have always stood and fought to make it better. And people like you have always said that same stupid BS to them.


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While I do agree that there are some policies that Americans do not support in regards to England and Europe, medicare for all isn't one of them.


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how much do we expect well developed countries to grow?

after a while, hitting a wall is inevitable. you can only sustain a certain level of growth for so long before it comes stagnant.


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More extremely racist tweets have just hit the news. It seems in 2012, omar called for the deportation of American citizens that didn't agree with the administration, and talib called for Trump's deportation in 2015 after he announced his plan to not allow immigration from known terrorist countries. How racist and unamerican of them. They should be kicked out of office or forced to resign. I will be expecting them to get a condemnation from the house any day now.


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So you're saying both sides are racist then.


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I imagine racists would enjoy "both sidesing" racism. I'm sure it would be easier to perpetuate hate if we normalize hate as something "everyone does."

I also know what tweets Erik are referring too (curious of him to not post a link), and those tweets are only equivocal to Trump's "neener neener" brigade of trolls. The only other interested parties would be those who are so ignorant of human conversation that they don't know what the definition of "context" is, much less how to perceive it, they would find equivalence.


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Yes, we should impeach Bette Midler. Because we can't have the leader of the free world saying things like that.

No, wait.


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So you're saying both sides are racist then.


No. I'll keep with my former statememt and say it isn't racist. I do love irony and sarcasm though.


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I imagine racists would enjoy "both sidesing" racism. I'm sure it would be easier to perpetuate hate if we normalize hate as something "everyone does."

I also know what tweets Erik are referring too (curious of him to not post a link), and those tweets are only equivocal to Trump's "neener neener" brigade of trolls. The only other interested parties would be those who are so ignorant of human conversation that they don't know what the definition of "context" is, much less how to perceive it, they would find equivalence.


Why bother posting a link. The libs would tell me the site isn't news, and they won't click it anyway. If they did their own research instead of letting themselves be force fed by the msm, they might learn something.


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I've seen plenty of liberals on Twitter. Heck the two you describe have bespoke Twitter accounts. You couldn't post the link to the tweet? If Twitter is MSM then why is Trump on there ?


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I've seen plenty of liberals on Twitter. Heck the two you describe have bespoke Twitter accounts. You couldn't post the link to the tweet? If Twitter is MSM then why is Trump on there ?



Bespoke twitter accounts? Do you mean custom made?

No, twitter isn't msm, it's just a tool they use while believing it's a majority of Americans. I don't have an account, and don't want one.

I haven't seen a single person on here say a single thing about how vile, disgusting, or racist talibs or omars tweets were. I guess we just have another example of selective outrage again.


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