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You berating me and falsifying my opinions will not make me stop. Quite the opposite. HA! We have mostly the same positions in your post on the other thread! So unless you are 'extremist' too, our differences are smaller than you think. Berating bigotry is one thing (I don't think I've ever called you a racist) but arguing my point of view is not berating you Vers. It's talking about our beliefs. Not sure why you are feeling so under attack over any of your stances on issues. Calling you a centrist is not an attack. When you stay neutral and claim the middle ground, you can't have things both ways. That's the only thing I can remember attacking you on lately. And the snide labeling of progressive... which you are not too far from being yourself. Taxes seems to be the bid difference.
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If you want the service a business provides then you have to accept what they offer to make. Just like you can't go into a restaurant and FORCE them to cook something that is not on the menu.
Decorating a cake is on a bakers "menu". Just like you can't go into an atheist bakery and demand they make a Christian cake when it goes against their beliefs. Please site on single example of an atheist baker refusing to bake a cake for a first communion party of a Catholic. Or an atheist baker refusing to bake a cake for a Jewish family celebrating a bar mitzvah. I'll be waiting...... You don't like what is available then take your business elsewhere. Both sides are free, not just the buyer. That's the exact same thing they used to tell black people before laws were created to change it.
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Better to have a few rats than to be oneIn case anyone missed it, the president of the United States had some choice words to describe Maryland’s 7th congressional district on Saturday morning. Here are the key phrases: “no human being would want to live there,” it is a “very dangerous & filthy place,” “Worst in the USA” and, our personal favorite: It is a “rat and rodent infested mess.” He wasn’t really speaking of the 7th as a whole. He failed to mention Ellicott City, for example, or Baldwin or Monkton or Prettyboy, all of which are contained in the sprawling yet oddly-shaped district that runs from western Howard County to southern Harford County. No, Donald Trump’s wrath was directed at Baltimore and specifically at Rep. Elijah Cummings, the 68-year-old son of a former South Carolina sharecropper who has represented the district in the U.S. House of Representatives since 1996. It’s not hard to see what’s going on here. The congressman has been a thorn in this president’s side, and Mr. Trump sees attacking African American members of Congress as good politics, as it both warms the cockles of the white supremacists who love him and causes so many of the thoughtful people who don’t to scream. President Trump bad-mouthed Baltimore in order to make a point that the border camps are “clean, efficient & well run," which, of course, they are not — unless you are fine with all the overcrowding, squalor, cages and deprivation to be found in what the Department of Homeland Security’s own inspector-general recently called “a ticking time bomb." In pointing to the 7th, the president wasn’t hoping his supporters would recognize landmarks like Johns Hopkins Hospital, perhaps the nation’s leading medical center. He wasn’t conjuring images of the U.S. Social Security Administration, where they write the checks that so many retired and disabled Americans depend upon. It wasn’t about the beauty of the Inner Harbor or the proud history of Fort McHenry. And it surely wasn’t about the economic standing of a district where the median income is actually above the national average. No, he was returning to an old standby of attacking an African American lawmaker from a majority black district on the most emotional and bigoted of arguments. It was only surprising that there wasn’t room for a few classic phrases like “you people” or “welfare queens” or “crime-ridden ghettos” or a suggestion that the congressman “go back” to where he came from. This is a president who will happily debase himself at the slightest provocation. And given Mr. Cummings’ criticisms of U.S. border policy, the various investigations he has launched as chairman of the House Oversight Committee, his willingness to call Mr. Trump a racist for his recent attacks on the freshmen congresswomen, and the fact that “Fox & Friends” had recently aired a segment critical of the city, slamming Baltimore must have been irresistible in a Pavlovian way. Fox News rang the bell, the president salivated and his thumbs moved across his cell phone into action. As heartening as it has been to witness public figures rise to Charm City’s defense on Saturday, from native daughter House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to Mayor Bernard C. “Jack” Young, we would above all remind Mr. Trump that the 7th District, Baltimore included, is part of the United States that he is supposedly governing. The White House has far more power to effect change in this city, for good or ill, than any single member of Congress including Mr. Cummings. If there are problems here, rodents included, they are as much his responsibility as anyone’s, perhaps more because he holds the most powerful office in the land. Finally, while we would not sink to name-calling in the Trumpian manner — or ruefully point out that he failed to spell the congressman’s name correctly (it’s Cummings, not Cumming) — we would tell the most dishonest man to ever occupy the Oval Office, the mocker of war heroes, the gleeful grabber of women’s private parts, the serial bankrupter of businesses, the useful idiot of Vladimir Putin and the guy who insisted there are “good people” among murderous neo-Nazis that he’s still not fooling most Americans into believing he’s even slightly competent in his current post. Or that he possesses a scintilla of integrity. Better to have some vermin living in your neighborhood than to be one. Baltimore Sun Editorial Board This piece is written by the Baltimore Sun Editorial Board. If you would like to submit a letter to the editor, please send it to talkback@baltimoresun.com. https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/edi...fada-story.html
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Trump is about to execute a white supremacist, while trying to free a Black rapper from jail, as he pushes prison reform that directly benefits families of Black men, while calling out a city where minorities are victims of crime and blight.
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if you want to follow your faith, don't own a business which puts you into alleged conflict with customers That is almost every business... as for people who are supposed to believe in God who want to not love 'everyone' - I find that disturbing. I can love somebody without condoning all that they do. I can love somebody without wanting to participate in/or provide my professional services for their activities that I find morally objectionable. Jesus loved and forgave the prostitute at the well.. he left her with "go and sin no more"... he didn't offer to build her a damn whorehouse so she could keep doing it in a nice new comfortable building. This notion that God is love and Jesus is love... THEREFORE, nobody that calls themself a Christian is allowed to ever be critical of another person's actions, or should be obligated to provide services for those actions just so they can make a living, is absolutely FREAKING INSANE. It is a total bastardization of everything that Jesus stood for.. EVERYTHING. Sorry, Jesus was not this "YOLO", "You do you" kind of dude who was ok with anything and everything that people did just so he could pass that off as "loving them"... Everytime Jesus encountered a sinner and healed them or forgave them it was always with "sell all that you have and FOLLOW ME"... or "Go and sin no more" or "Put your trust in God"... it was NEVER, "Ok, you're forgiven, go ahead back to what you were doing before"... Yes, feeding people, clothing them, helping them are all important in the Christian faith and should be done without obligation... but the single greatest form of love in the faith is to help somebody find a relationship with Jesus... it's about eternal salvation, that's the single most important form of love... all other expressions of love are to get to that, not to condone what they are doing or to make them more comfortable in their own sin....
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In 2014 the sun ran a headline ..... it was the lead story ... it was all about baltimore’s Rat hot spots ... In 2016 there headline one day was ... TRUMPS’ RIGHT WERE A RAT INFESTED 3rd WORLD COUNTRY .... or something to that affect ... My oh my how times have changed .... *L* .... So i went to google those headlines and of course google buries them so i went to the sun’s main page ... it was loaded with TRUMPS A RACIST and Baltimore is doing AWESOME articles ... about 1/2 way down the page was a headline and a map that didn’t fit ... EVERY DAY they run a section that merits enough hits to keep it on the front page of their online addition ... it read ... RAT HOT SPOTS .... *LOL* ... they could at least bury it for a few days while they mock the president for calling it a rat infested disgrace ... And Cummings has done an AWESOME JOB representing his district .... i’ll be waiting to hear his LONG LIST OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS other than continuing to get re-elected and making him and his family VERY VERY RICH .... LOVE to know what he’s SPECIFICALLY DONE to help his very oddly drawn up district ... gee, i wonder how that happened ...  ... Trump’s right ... it is a 3rd world crap hole .... just like SF, LA, Seattle and Portland to name a few have turned into ... the difference is those cities are actually thriving in many ways .... IF u have a clue and are half as smart as u pretend to be on here ... you’d know WHY it happened and WHEN ... that used to be one thriving ass city .... its a real shame what happened there ... But hey ... trump opened the door and lord only knows u and yours won’t hesitate to crash through it no matter HOW MUCH U HAVE TO IGNORE to get there ... i mean a newspaper has a front page of articles telling us what a racist trump is cause he called the city a rat infested hell hole and mixed in amongst those headlines on the front page is one titled ... RAT HOT SPOTS ... *LOL* .. Talk about struggling with 0 + 0 ... Now go back to being in the majority ...  ....
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More news on the real rat problem.
https://www.townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2019/07/29/yes-baltimore-is-a-disgusting-rat-and-rodent-infested-mess-n2550744%3famp=true
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Just watched my local ABC News as they interviewed people in Cumming's District.
They say President Trump is right. Place is terrible.
Then I watched my National ABC News as they called Trump a racist.
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I'm not sure, I will look it up.
But I do know the ABC National News is owned by the Democrats.
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Better to have a few rats than to be one I think this is the type of article that we should ignore rather than highlight. It's slanderous, false, misleading, and makes our side look bad. Sometimes, less is more.
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What the hell is the damn city of Baltimore doing to help itself????????????????? They can't tax themselves into the 90's? They need the federal gov't to bail them out? If so, the gov't. of Baltimore is a total failure. Complete, utter, total failure.
And their past mayor said as much, while trying to sell books.
What trump tweeted wasn't racist. Hell, the past mayor of Baltimore said basically the same thing. It IS a rat infested city. But somehow it's the fed. gov'ts fault?
Maybe Cummings ought to figure his crap out. How long has he been suckling on the public teet?
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if you want to follow your faith, don't own a business which puts you into alleged conflict with customers That is almost every business... as for people who are supposed to believe in God who want to not love 'everyone' - I find that disturbing. I can love somebody without condoning all that they do. I can love somebody without wanting to participate in/or provide my professional services for their activities that I find morally objectionable. Jesus loved and forgave the prostitute at the well.. he left her with "go and sin no more"... he didn't offer to build her a damn whorehouse so she could keep doing it in a nice new comfortable building. This notion that God is love and Jesus is love... THEREFORE, nobody that calls themself a Christian is allowed to ever be critical of another person's actions, or should be obligated to provide services for those actions just so they can make a living, is absolutely FREAKING INSANE. It is a total bastardization of everything that Jesus stood for.. EVERYTHING. Sorry, Jesus was not this "YOLO", "You do you" kind of dude who was ok with anything and everything that people did just so he could pass that off as "loving them"... Everytime Jesus encountered a sinner and healed them or forgave them it was always with "sell all that you have and FOLLOW ME"... or "Go and sin no more" or "Put your trust in God"... it was NEVER, "Ok, you're forgiven, go ahead back to what you were doing before"... Yes, feeding people, clothing them, helping them are all important in the Christian faith and should be done without obligation... but the single greatest form of love in the faith is to help somebody find a relationship with Jesus... it's about eternal salvation, that's the single most important form of love... all other expressions of love are to get to that, not to condone what they are doing or to make them more comfortable in their own sin.... Brilliant post DC. Just loved it!
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It is a sad tale of woe.
I have been through there many times, hoping the car would not break down. People shouldn't have to live like that but the priority seems to be on comforting illegal aliens.
Same story in Detroit, San Fran, Seattle, LA, Philadelphia etc.
A real shame.
Elijah Eugene Cummings (born January 18, 1951) is an American politician and the U.S. Representative for Maryland's 7th congressional district, serving in his 13th term in the House, having served since 1996.
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Not only is Baltimore rat-infested it's also the number one city for bed bugs:
Orkin Releases Top 50 Bed Bug Cities List
Baltimore and Washington D.C. continue to hold top spots ATLANTA (January 8, 2019) – For the second year in a row, Baltimore tops Orkin’s Top 50 Bed Bug Cities list, released today. New York fell four spots, while Dallas-Fort Worth joined the top 10. San Diego and Albany rejoin the list, after falling out of the top 50 in 2017, and New Orleans and Flint, Mich. join the list for the first time ever. Orlando has fallen off the list despite public lawsuits from hotel guests.
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I have been through there many times, hoping the car would not break down. People shouldn't have to live like that but the priority seems to be on comforting illegal aliens. What a crock...
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Interesting....
After viewing these, I couldn't help but be reminded of a similar issue we have in the area with East Cleveland. Looks identical, unfortunately.
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That was one of the “weird” things I learned through Mr. President shining a spotlight on B-more ... one site posted a list of the top 5 worst cities to live in ...
One was Cleveland ... i had no clue it was that bad in parts ... none .. that shocked me ... the other shocker was Baltimore wasn’t even in the top 5 ... not sure who compiled the list ... but based off what we’ve learned now that B-more is in the spotlight how bad are the conditions in the other cities in the top 5 ...
The other thing that i found extremely sad ... a dude on one of the sites i go to spent about 5 hours in one of the neighborhoods interviewing people ... he said in the 5 hours or so he was there from 3 in the afternoon til around 8 at night .. NOT ONE CHILD WAS PLAYING ON THE PLAYGROUND so he started asking ... where are all the kids ... reply was there not allowed out cause its to dangerous ...
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What I find sad is that in a country with so much wealth we allow this to happen. This isn't overnight this is decades of abandonment and it is always in the poorest regions. Detroit, Flint, East Cleveland, Baltimore, East St. Louis, Newark etc. Shameful that is should happen in a country with so much wealth.
Let's now shine a light on the poorest regions of...I don't know....let's say West Virginia, and in particular the white areas where there is heavy unemployment and opioid abuse/deaths. My guess those areas are equally as bad and "infested". Where are the similar tweets directed at those Republican congressmen/women who oversee those districts? Not quite the same level of shaming, if at all, from the Pres is there? Wonder why?
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Cause there not blasting him or his BORDER AGENTS pretty much on a daily basis ... they haven’t said he’s a russian spy nor have they went after everything to do with every business dealing he and his family have had ... do u know what their trying to get their hands on they have no business going after ... hate trump all u want ... what there doing is WRONG ...
Do u know what prompted his attacks on Cummings? ...
If Manchin starts coming after him he’ll get his too ... just like all the rest of the people that attack him that he goes after .... the list is long ... u want republicans he hasn’t been to kind too .... McCain, Romney and the entire Bush family including mama bush and that is literally just the tip of the iceberg ...
And dawg ... thats why whats going on in SF, LA, Seattle and Portland is even more shocking to me ... there’s TONS OF OPPORTUNITY and MONEY in those places .... in b-more, there’s still a ton of money just no opportunity ...
Couldn’t agree more with the wealth we have as a nation and yet we have places that are as bad as the worst 3rd world countries i’ve been too ... SAD ...
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What I find sad is that in a country with so much wealth we allow this to happen. This isn't overnight this is decades of abandonment and it is always in the poorest regions. Somebody on Twitter posted that they were on a flight into BWI airport yesterday and the stewardess made a comment about them beginning their approach into lovely and beautiful Baltimore, MD and the passengers began to applaud... this is obviously because folks who are flying for business and recreation DON'T LIVE in the areas being discussed.. nor do they care all that much about them, as long as it doesn't bleed over into THEIR neighborhood. Let's now shine a light on the poorest regions of...I don't know....let's say West Virginia, and in particular the white areas where there is heavy unemployment and opioid abuse/deaths. My guess those areas are equally as bad and "infested". The poorest county in WV is McDowell County with an average FAMILY income of under $25K.. It is 89.1% white, 9.5% black, .3% other.... I defy you to find me any photos of McDowell County on the internet that look anything like all of the ones circulating from many of our major cities... Also, let's look at some facts.. On the BestPlaces website, they rate crime on a scale of 1-100 with 1 being low crime and 100 being high crime.. The violent crime rate in McDowell is 16.2.. national average is 22.7... Baltimore is 77.8 The property crime rate in McDowell is 22.1.. national average is 35.4... Baltimore is 67.6 The reason rural/poor counties don't get all of the negative attention is for 2 reasons.. 1. They tend to vote republican so republicans don't blast them. 2. Democrats don't know they exist.
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What I find sad is that in a country with so much wealth we allow this to happen. This isn't overnight this is decades of abandonment and it is always in the poorest regions. Somebody on Twitter posted that they were on a flight into BWI airport yesterday and the stewardess made a comment about them beginning their approach into lovely and beautiful Baltimore, MD and the passengers began to applaud... this is obviously because folks who are flying for business and recreation DON'T LIVE in the areas being discussed.. nor do they care all that much about them, as long as it doesn't bleed over into THEIR neighborhood. Let's now shine a light on the poorest regions of...I don't know....let's say West Virginia, and in particular the white areas where there is heavy unemployment and opioid abuse/deaths. My guess those areas are equally as bad and "infested". The poorest county in WV is McDowell County with an average FAMILY income of under $25K.. It is 89.1% white, 9.5% black, .3% other.... I defy you to find me any photos of McDowell County on the internet that look anything like all of the ones circulating from many of our major cities... Also, let's look at some facts.. On the BestPlaces website, they rate crime on a scale of 1-100 with 1 being low crime and 100 being high crime.. The violent crime rate in McDowell is 16.2.. national average is 22.7... Baltimore is 77.8 The property crime rate in McDowell is 22.1.. national average is 35.4... Baltimore is 67.6 The reason rural/poor counties don't get all of the negative attention is for 2 reasons.. 1. They tend to vote republican so republicans don't blast them. 2. Democrats don't know they exist. My points exactly.
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I don't know if it might be because you're in the NW part of the country and I'm in Ohio, but the opiod crisis in the region you mentioned is front and center. As far as Ohio is concerned, SE Ohio is majorly affected and recognized as a serious issue in the state. The whole understanding of the concept of "Harm Reduction" has spouted up in large part because of what it going on in Ohio as a result of opiod use and what else it can lead to as a result of it. Rob Portman talks about it often looking to fix the issue and the same with Sherrod Brown. It's a bipartisan issue here. However, I've not heard Trump discuss or visit the area, so there is that to consider regarding your point.
We all know why Trump is focusing on Baltimore.....for political reasons and to take a shot at Cummings.
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Regarding crime...when you are desperate you do whatever you have to do to survive for food, housing, water etc. The sad thing is almost all of the violence in cities is out of desperation and drugs/turf/gangs etc.prey in areas like this. It is only when these inner city ills spill into middle class white areas that it makes headline news. Heroin was an issue for decades in black neighborhoods. All the jazz musicians talk about it in the 50s/60s etc. The Fillmore district was once flush with opioid epidemic. But, it only hit headline news and they only used the word "epidemic" when it spread into white communities, and in particular, suburbs.
West Virginia poverty may look different than Baltimore or inner cities, but make no mistake about it there are areas of the state that have become near ghost towns and forgotten due to being ravaged by the closing of mines, mills, unemployment, desperation, opioid. The difference in density of population may not look the same as the boarded rowhouses in Baltimore or the burned out lots of Detroit, but the comparison I am making is these areas are not front and center of his attacks. Trump has a history of singling out POC and the US as a country (not just local/state governments) w/so much wealth should be ashamed that they are allowed to become this bad.
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What I find sad is that in a country with so much wealth we allow this to happen. This isn't overnight this is decades of abandonment and it is always in the poorest regions. Somebody on Twitter posted that they were on a flight into BWI airport yesterday and the stewardess made a comment about them beginning their approach into lovely and beautiful Baltimore, MD and the passengers began to applaud... this is obviously because folks who are flying for business and recreation DON'T LIVE in the areas being discussed.. nor do they care all that much about them, as long as it doesn't bleed over into THEIR neighborhood. Let's now shine a light on the poorest regions of...I don't know....let's say West Virginia, and in particular the white areas where there is heavy unemployment and opioid abuse/deaths. My guess those areas are equally as bad and "infested". The poorest county in WV is McDowell County with an average FAMILY income of under $25K.. It is 89.1% white, 9.5% black, .3% other.... I defy you to find me any photos of McDowell County on the internet that look anything like all of the ones circulating from many of our major cities... Also, let's look at some facts.. On the BestPlaces website, they rate crime on a scale of 1-100 with 1 being low crime and 100 being high crime.. The violent crime rate in McDowell is 16.2.. national average is 22.7... Baltimore is 77.8 The property crime rate in McDowell is 22.1.. national average is 35.4... Baltimore is 67.6 The reason rural/poor counties don't get all of the negative attention is for 2 reasons.. 1. They tend to vote republican so republicans don't blast them. 2. Democrats don't know they exist. My points exactly. My last statement on why they get little attention might align with your points.. but your guess that those places are equally bad and "infested"... no, I refuted that point.. I've lived in small towns, suburbs, and big cities.. there is a sense of community in small towns that doesn't exist anywhere else. In a small town if you notice somebody has had a bag of trash in front of their house for a while you pick it up and stick it in your own trash can, in the city thousands of people will walk around it every day.... it's just different.
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I don't know if it might be because you're in the NW part of the country and I'm in Ohio, but the opiod crisis in the region you mentioned is front and center.
Opioids are bad in Oregon too. Particularly bad in areas of our state with high unemployment, but as Portland is the largest city it's more concentrated here and as we have a very large homeless population it is very visible. It's very common to see somebody on the street shooting up, heroin and meth casualties line, walk or are passed out on our streets, it's very, very common to see the orange remnants of syringes on the pavement, and in some areas it is very common to see whole discarded syringes (in 2018 28,000 syringes were collected on the streets of downtown Portland). So, it has impacted us in the PNW as well.
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Trump has a history of singling out POC and the US as a country (not just local/state governments) w/so much wealth should be ashamed that they are allowed to become this bad. There is ample video and historical evidence that local politicians, republicans, democrats, blacks, whites, almost everybody seemed to be in agreement that these parts of Baltimore were like this going back at least a few years.... then Trump says it and suddenly it's racist to point this out and everybody (re: democrats) who pointed this out before is now coming to the defense of Baltimore and this Cummings guy... It has been one of the most hypocritical, about-face, 180 turns in recent memory from the democrats... Make no mistake, Trump is an arse and he says things in the most vile and hateful manner possible.... but the democrats had an opportunity to say "You're right, what can we do about it?".. but those words "You're right" when referring to this President just can't be uttered, even when he is... even when it could help a situation... I don't say this lightly.. but yes, I believe ranking democrats would rather have these poor people living in trash and filth and rats, than fix it and allow Trump to get even the slightest bit of credit... it is that agenda driven.
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I've lived in small towns, suburbs, and big cities.. there is a sense of community in small towns that doesn't exist anywhere else. In a small town if you notice somebody has had a bag of trash in front of their house for a while you pick it up and stick it in your own trash can, in the city thousands of people will walk around it every day.... it's just different.
In some areas of the cities they also stopped collecting trash. I know this was once an issue in E. St. Louis. So, this too doesn't help matters. My guess is if you and your family are struggling to eat or are addicted to hard drugs...trash on the streets is the least of your concerns.
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U didn’t answer my question sir ...
Do u know what triggered Mr. President to go after Cummings? ...
And I can provide one long ass list of non colored folks he’s went after ... to say he only goes after people of color is just not factual ... i’ll add to my previous list ...
McCain Romney Bush family including mama bush DeBlasio Jeff Sessions Pocahontas Paul Ryan is a recent victim ... *L* .. Rosie O’Donnell ....
Once again this list is just the tip of the iceberg .... he goes after EVERYONE that he feels attacks or slights him ... only difference is when its a POC he’s a racist for it .... *scratches head* ...
When Mr. President went after Little Marco and Lyin Ted in the debates or on twitter not one word about racism back then ... curious as to how that works ...
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This is from April, so back before it wasn't racist to say these things... but it helps explain the problem. Baltimore's perpetual trash problem By BALTIMORE SUN EDITORIAL BOARD APR 11, 2019 | 9:20 AM Why can’t we have a clean city? It’s a problem that has perplexed generations of mayors in Baltimore. Call it the perpetual trash nemesis. Decades of tactics have been tried to beat it. William Donald Schaefer’s Trashball campaign urged people to ball up their debris and toss it into a receptacle like a two-point shot. Kurt L. Schmoke banked on people idolizing Cal Ripken Jr. enough to convince them to pick up after themselves as part of his “It’s Your Baltimore. Don’t Trash It!” initiative, while Sheila Dixon tried to disgust people into doing better with photos of rats. Her “Cleaner, Greener Baltimore Initiative”also included adding hundreds of trash cans around the city and reducing trash pickup to focus more on recycling. Then there was Martin O’Malley, who made a big splash showing up to neighborhoods like a rock star clad in a jumpsuit and hanging from the back of a trash truck as part of an eight-day clean-up tour early in his administration. Yet, here we are again in a mess of a city. Food containers, balled up clothes, paper, banana peels, plastic bags and tons of other pieces of litter line the shoulders of roads, pile up in alleys and are strewn across fields and yards. Not only is it unsightly and contributes to a rodent problem, but it can create a glum and gloomy feel in a time when the city is already facing self-esteem issues because of high crime and the scandal surrounding the University Maryland Medical System and Mayor Catherine Pugh, who’s now on an indefinite leave, and her Healthy Holly books. If anything, the city needs a major scrubbing to help restore some of its faith and image. Acting Mayor Jack Young, tired of seeing people casually toss litter out of car windows or on the ground as they walk down the street, has decided to take on the issue as one of his main platforms. “A clean city is an inviting city,” he said during a recent meeting with The Sun’s editorial board. The city’s crime problem makes it hard to keep some neighborhoods clean, he said, noting that criminals don’t like “clean spaces.” They need trash piles to hide drug stashes or debris-cluttered alleys to make it difficult for police to chase them. John F. Chalmers, head of the city’s Bureau of Solid Waste, said sanitation workers will clean up trash piles only to have dealers dirty them up again. Some will threaten city employees who try to tidy up. So whatever Mr. Young has in mind, it seems solutions for the trash and crime problems will go hand-in-hand. Mr. Young has no specific plan yet, which is understandable given that he is barely into the new, temporary position, but he has some ideas he hopes to implement, like working with the state to have inmates pick up trash. The city used to have such a program that also lead to sanitation jobs once people were released and would be worth bringing back. He might also want to follow the lead of some other cities, including Los Angeles and San Francisco, that have paid homeless people to help clean up neighborhoods. [Most read] Better to have a few rats than to be one » The Bureau of Solid Waste also faces some other obstacles amid the growing calls for service, including a flat budget and high turnover among employees. Workers need CDL driver’s licenses, and those who have them can often find higher paying jobs elsewhere. The city’s housing department is responsible for investigations into illegal dumping and citations, which probably slows down the process of keeping the city clean. Maybe streamlining everything into one department would make it more efficient. Still, some tactics the bureau has implemented have shown promise already, including installation of “smart trash cans” in certain neighborhoods that alert workers when they are almost full and opening up a city service center to small haulers to prevent illegal dumping. But a cultural shift in the city needs to take place if Baltimore is to become home to clean streets and alleys. A change where people say it’s not OK to throw that hamburger wrapper out of my window because I have pride in my city. Those who don’t live in the city need to think about how they’d feel if somebody threw trash in their backyard as if it were the community landfill. To put it simply, too many people need a lesson in basic decency. And it’s people of all races, ages and socioeconomic backgrounds who are culprits of the widespread littering, which, by the way, is against the law. Mr. Young was not shy in his criticism of people who won’t take personal responsibility for their contributions to the grime and grit, and we wish him luck in what other mayor’s have not been able to achieve. Sending the message from the top is a good start. Mr. Chalmers, who has been with the bureau for 30 years, called the trashing of the city a learned behavior and said workers often check dumped garbage to find it belongs to someone in the neighborhood. People need to know Baltimore is not their “personal trash can,” he said, and suggested that maybe public shaming, perhaps on social media, might make them see the light. Not sure if he was joking, but it’s not a half bad idea. Sheila Dixon Baltimore Sun Editorial Board Copyright © 2019, Baltimore Sun Link My take-away? Gimmicks don't work, threats don't work.. the only thing that works is community pride.. so how do you inject that back into a community that has lost all sense of pride and has, apparently, allowed the neighborhood to be taken over by drug dealers? The minimum wage in Baltimore is over $10/hour and legislation will raise that to $15/hour over the next few years.. unemployment in Maryland is at about 3.5%, in Baltimore it's just over 5%, which still isn't bad... According to the article, this problem goes back 4 or 5 mayors ago.. I'm not being sarcastic or cynical, how do you fix it when the very folks who live there, won't let you fix it?
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I don't say this lightly.. but yes, I believe ranking democrats would rather have these poor people living in trash and filth and rats, than fix it....(EDIT by PDX)....it is that agenda driven.
I have left the last part of your sentence out simply because I don't give Trump credit for anything other than his ability to manipulate the media and being a Narcissist. However, I do agree with what you say on ranking democrats. The establishment, no matter what party, are both to blame. This is why I disagree w/the dNC pushing a "moderate" Dems. They are the establishment and nothing will change with them. Just take a stand for crying out loud and stop pandering to the point where you just pat each other on the back. I'm not saying the "Progressive Left" are the answer either because I question just how "Progressive" they actually are. "Socialist"? Give me a break. None of these candidates are "Socialists". No idea why the right think this. Even the use of "Democratic Socialism" is lame. Hell, I don't like that Warren just came out defending herself and said she was a "Capitalist". Who is she trying to appease? My guess is the moderates. Lame. But, I recognize that the moderates is who the Dems think they have to pander to in order to win and if that's the case...nothing gets done because you are constantly thinking about your voter base on both sides so you just massage things a bit to make it look like you are doing something. Yawn.
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Here’s an article that says the cops in b-more don’t even have enough cops to respond to the 911 calls ... i wonder how much that has to do with the erosion of support from our dem leaders has to do with this ... https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobr...crisis-n2550854Critics and skeptics of President Trump were not very well going to listen to him when he warned about the perilous state the city of Baltimore is in, but perhaps they'll listen to actual Baltimore police officers. On Monday, the Baltimore City Fraternal Order of Police publicized some somber statistics. Baltimore City FOP ✔ @FOP3 6 murders in Baltimore since Friday, 38 for July, 196 for 2019 22% higher than 2018 6 shootings since Friday, 80 for July, 437 for 2019 30% higher than 2018#cityincrisis 6,740 8:38 AM - Jul 29, 2019 Twitter Baltimore Police Commissioner Michael Harrison hoped to address this crisis with his recent crime plan, but Baltimore City FOP President Mike Mancuso said it will do little to help. First and foremost, they don't have the staff - they don't even have enough officers to respond to all 911 calls. That's not to mention their lack of other resources.
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Diam, I know the point you are trying to make. I'm not going to go there. I am disgusted with the lack of decorum, respect, class as well as the school boy bully tactics that come out of our WH on a daily basis. As a nation, when the highest office publicly and regularly does this it validates mean and spiteful behavior and it has turned us against each other.
Ultimately, he does this to distract and if he receives credit I guess he does this (distract) pretty well too. The media love it and hang on it for DAYS. Read CNN and you would think nothing else happens in the world, ever. They fall for it hook, line and sinker.
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The first black pres. didn't give much of a eff either but hes held in the highest esteem by dem party....and the MSM pfft
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Trump’s Racist Rant Omits Kushner’s Vermin-Filled Properties Someone forgot to tell the president that Jared Kushner’s Baltimore properties are filled with mice (and maggots and mold). While Donald Trump spent the weekend lobbing racist attacks at Congressman Elijah Cummings for representing a “disgusting, rat and rodent infested” Baltimore district where “no human being would want to live,” perhaps he should have taken the matter up with his son-in-law Jared Kushner, a local slumlord whose Baltimore properties are reportedly filled with vermin, maggots, and mold. According to the Washington Post, apartments owned by Kushner Cos., where Kushner served as CEO until joining the White House, were responsible for more than 200 code violations in 2017 alone. Repairs were apparently “made only after the county threatened fines, local officials said, and even after warnings, violations on nine properties were not addressed, resulting in monetary sanctions.” That same year the New York Times and ProPublica found that tenants of the Kushner properties had reported maggots, mold problems, and a mouse infestation. In the Kushner Cos.’ Essex Park complex, for example, truck driver Marquita Parmely said the mouse infestation was so bad that her 12-year-old daughter found one in her bed, while her two-year-old’s asthma was aggravated by allergens in mice droppings. A private investigator who looked into Kushner’s property-management company called the managers “slumlords,” a description that’s also been applied to the Kushners’ management of New York City properties. (Christine Taylor, a spokeswoman for the Kushner firm, said at the time that the firm was in compliance with all state and local laws, which then Baltimore County executive Kevin Kamenetz remarked was “a stretch of truth.”) “It is certainly ironic that the president’s own son-in-law was complicit in contributing to some of the neglect that the president purports to be so concerned about,” Baltimore County executive John A. Olszewski Jr. said in an interview on Saturday. Shannon Darrow, a program manager at the tenant-advocacy group Fair Housing Action Center of Maryland, commented Sunday that “[Kushner] has been creating a race to the bottom in terms of poorly maintained properties,” and has “been very, very deeply implicated.” In addition to horrifying living conditions, per the Post, over the past two years, the Kushner family business and affiliated entities have been sued multiple times by Baltimore-area residents alleging the firm has “charged them excessive fees and used the threat of eviction to pressure them into paying.” During the period between 2013 and 2017, corporate entities associated with the Kushner properties have requested the civil arrest of 105 former tenants, “the highest number among all property managers in Maryland during that period,” according to the Baltimore Sun. “It’s been our recent experience that working families have been preyed on at the benefit of Mr. Kushner and his company,” said Olszewski. Vermin, mold, and maggots aside, business in Baltimore has been very, very good for the Kushners, whose Maryland properties generate at least $90 million in revenue each year. A Kushner Cos. representative did not address questions over the weekend about Trump’s description of the area, telling the Post only that “Kushner Companies is proud to own thousands of apartments in the Baltimore area.” https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/07/jared-kushner-baltimore-propertiesAnd Trump helped put a slum Lord in an upper level of his government.
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