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That’s a huge haul!

Just a couple comments to add to your post Ytown.

- I'm really surprised/impressed by the return we received. I knew we would get a good return for Bauer, but I didn't expect that.

- As for Puig, I'm sure he will just be a rental for this season. On paper, we technically upgraded two things with getting him. Obviously offensively we upgraded, but also our outfield defense. Puig also has one of the strongest arms in the game. Having him and Naquin in the corner outfield positions is two really strong arms. Now just have to see how long Puig's suspension will be, lol.

- Trevor's last moment with the Tribe , he throws the ball over the fence. Puig's last Reds moment is getting thrown out of a brawl. Nice, lol.

- Logan as you said is interesting. He throws low 90s and shown promise in the past going through the minors pretty quickly. What i've read, most of his issues right now is between the ears. Just has to not let his emotions take control of the game. Who I compare that to is Cookie. Cookie when he was with the Phillies had top notch stuff, but his biggest thing was between the ears and not letting his emotions take over..as they say a pitcher has to have short term memory when pitching. In the past few years Carrasco finally starting putting it together. Logan is said to have good stuff, hopefully he will mature as a pitcher. The good thing is we have so much starting pitcher depth (knock on wood) right now that he should have a lot more time to develop instead of being thrown back into the fire.

- Reyes, wow the dude has some power. Strikes out quite a bit. I'm guessing he will be our DH? The great thing about him is he is young (24 years old) and the great thing is he is controllable years till 2024. The Padres have a lot of young outfield talent and we took advantage of that.

- We also picked up two minor leaguers Pitcher Scott Moss and Victor Nova. I don't know much about them besides the minor league stats I saw.

- Last comment, adding Puig and Reyes...this should benefit our lineup. Someone (Santana?) will be seeing some good pitches to hit.

With Jose coming back around, we will have professional hitters up and down the lineup.

1) Frankie
2) Mercado
3) Jose
4) Puig
5) Santana
6) Reyes
7) Kip
8) Perez
9) Naquin

Lotta guys are going to see some good pitches.

Big time return for Bauer ... well done tribe!

I think this could very well be the lineup, however, I think consideration could be given to switching Jose & Santana OR Santana & Puig. I just think Santana's on-base % is too good to push him down passed 4th in the lineup. The more I think about it, I'd like Ramirez-Santana-Puig. But I get the Left/Switch- Right toggle to the top of the lineup.

We'll see.

I'm still not sold on Naquin and I could see Bauers continuing to get time out there as well. Too many young outfielders not even counting Zimmer. At some point, you gotta commit to someone. Naquin is 28 & Bauers is only 23.

I think they might commit to giving Bauers more at-bats as we've seen what Naquin is and even though he has had a good month, I expect him to regress. Hope I'm wrong.

Hmm, maybe some pitching help now?

I would say our biggest need now is late bullpen help. Hand would benefit from a day off now and then. Once the playoffs start, we would have a nice 8th and 9th inning setup

Yeah, that could be the thinking. I’d also watch Arizona today .. they want to sell

Sure looks like a brilliant trade.

If the trade premises work-out, this is one of the best trades I've ever seen. (If for instance, Kluber and Salazar return to form.)

Reminds me of the trade in the movie Draft Day.

The Tribe pitchers have been pitching under so much pressure this season (lack of run support - "better be careful on the mound")

The young pitchers have gotta be thrilled.

I'm thinking Bauer is redealt by 4PM and possibly to someone we'd rather he not go to. NYY possibly?

That trade to Cincy was a little peculiar.

They are 8 games back in their division.

Cincy will have a really good starting 1-3 for next year.

j/c:

They already had a pretty decent rotation before this trade so this trade is kind of a head-scratcher for Reds fans. They need hitters and bullpen help. Right now we have a rotation of:

Trevor Bauer

Luis Castillo - 2019 All-Star

Sonny Gray - who has been great his last 7 starts (2.93 ERA)

Tanner Roark - who has been his steady self.

Alex Wood - who was a Cy Young candidate back in 2017 and is just now coming back from the injury list.

Anthony DeSclafani - who has been a decent find for the Reds and has been hot in his last 7 starts with a 3.29 ERA

Plus young Tyler Mahle who has shown promise at times.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Reds flipped Bauer to the Yankees for prospects.

As far as The Indians' side of the deal; I get that we needed bats, but man, I just hate trading starting pitching, especially when we're already thin because of Kluber's injury and Carrasco's illness.

I thought we had next years window still open if we stood firm but now I think we begin to dismantle as early as this postseason and for sure next. Sad...

I think the Reds are honestly looking at next year and have a good group of starters now

j/c:



Dang.

Quite a crystal ball. Not sure I want Puig after last night's nonsense. We got some help. Tearing it down again?

I don't really think the Indians are in tear-down mode. I think they tried to thread the needle and be both buyers and sellers with this trade. They may very well have achieved that; time will tell if our starting pitching can keep us in contention until Kluber returns. If it can, then the trade was probably a win, because we all knew Bauer was getting traded this off-season anyway.

Great trade for the Tribe. It helps short term and also long term as well. We just need the pitching to hold up which I am confident they will.

It is going to be a very fun upcoming fall on the lakeshore!

Just imagine Tribe in the playoffs on one of the nights of the Browns prime time games.

Oh boy downtown will be crazy!

It’s the Astros to lose once again IMO

Had to LOL at Tony Rizzo interviewing Albert Belle on the RBS today. Rizzo says something about Puig reminding him of Albert back in the day, and Belle said "Don't even go there - Puig sucks.". Rizzo went into full homina-homina-homina backup mode to salvage the interview. It was hilarious. Gotta love Albert Belle, he does not suffer fools at all.

Twins up big again ... ugh

July 30, 2019
Houston 2
Cleveland 0

Trade for Puig

July 31, 2019
Houston 4
Cleveland 10 with 4 HR

Puig hasn't even gotten into the lineup yet and he has our offense in hyperdrive

good quality stat there

Great win for Tribe last night. And for Zach Plesac.

Plesac had a subpar day, like every single rookie pitcher occasionally has and still comes away with the win. (game ERA 7.20, game WHIP 1.80)

Great developmental game for him.

Everybody talks about Puig, but Franmil Reyes is the gem in all of this.

Agreed. He has power, just turned 24 a couple of weeks ago, and the Indians control him through 2024 or something like that.

Puig is a rental, IMO.

I agree. Puig won’t be here after this year. The other kid is the long range plan

Kid is an ox too! A big dude indeed!

yeah it was always about reyes and the prospects, Cincy said yeah we'll take your problem child if you take ours

Indians are huge underdawgs tonight. Vegas is nervous about Salazar's return.

Hopefully, the very hand of God comes down and guides Danny's hand to smite thine enemies.


Use this ball, Danny.