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I agree bone .. I can see us looking for OL help at cut downs. Kush may be a temporary place holder at RG

I suggested that we will hit the waiver wire after the cuts, but I don't think it will be for a starter. I could easily see us bring in 1 or 2 backup offensive linemen.

Seems most likely. Try to get deeper, but we won't find a starting RG in a trade.

J/c

What contenders are in need of OL help? Minnesota?

Good call on Houston ... plus, they’re typically active with trades/players

TRENT WILLIAMS
T, WASHINGTON REDSKINS

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Redskins are telling other teams they are not trading Trent Williams.

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Aug 12, 2019, 9:41 PM ET

Trying to drive the price up?

Maybe.

Or maybe forcing his and his agent's last hand. Could be that ownership truly believes he'll play for them this season.

Yeah, the closer we get the more pressure it is to do something on both sides

The NFL isn't like the NBA. NFL players need to be careful when making their threats. It worked out for AB, but it was a disaster for Bell.

Normally i’d Agree with u as thats what rational GM’s do ... but bro ... Allen is coco puffs ... how that dude still has a job is beyond me .... he should go try hoops ... *L* ...

This story probably sheds a little bit of light on to why Trent Williams feels the way he does about the Redskins:

And more:



Because of how well things have gone for us over the past 12 months Washington has taken over as the league's premier poo show with Arizona a distant second place.

cfrs15's inarguable poo show power rankings that no one asked for:

1. Washington


2. Arizona
3. NY Giants

4. Jacksonville
5. Oakland

Why is Jacksonville a poo show? ...

Please explain ... i don’t get it ...

To be clear, they are not that much of a poo show, just enough of a poo show to make the top five.

Here are some reasons:

1. For some reason the people, who are still, in charge signed Blake Bortles to an extension.

2. Because they had faith in Blake Bortles they passed on a bunch of good QBs (and instead took a knucklehead running back).

3. Tom Coughlin called out the knucklehead running back last season and then backtracked hard.

4. Coughlin almost fired the coach and hired himself.

5. They signed Nick Foles for $45,125,000 despite for other team trying to sign him.

6. They mismanaged the cap so badly that they will likely have to let one of Jalen Ramsey or Yannick Ngakoue walk or decimate their defense.

I like the idea of an anti power rankings, or dysfunctional power ranking top 5,

But I have to put the dolphins on there and the Bengals too.

Washington,
Miami
Arizona
Bengals
Steelers for Antonio Brown and Leveon Bell.

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If the Guy "Never" wants to go back to Washington, he shouldn't have to,

I don't think the Browns need to sign Trent Williams, I think the Browns are OK with the bad offensive line they already have.

Let's also not forget when Shanahan Sr. kept RGIII out there in the playoff game against the Seahawks even after a significant leg injury. RGIII has never been the same since.

I remember seeing that on TV. Very painful to watch. And you're right, he and the leg were never the same.

Redskins have to be near the bottom of the league this year ... i cant think of many things going for that team

I don’t think you know what inarguable means.

IN that case the Giants have no business being on a dysfunctional list, they not only have Barkley, they got Zeitler from the Browns,

The Giants defense is going to be better, and they got rid of Odell Beckham Jr, who they thought was a distraction.

New Quarterback, and they look like they have some things going right down there in New York/ New Jersey/ wherever they play.

The staph infection year(s) was a terrible look, but outside of that, can't recall any other major issue.

This may not qualify (as it was more of an isolated incident, and it was not an organization-wide issue) - but Shurmur putting McCoy back in the game after a concussion was a bit troubling. This is the one where McCoy's dad got angry with the team.

But, you're right. We've always seemed to do a good job of taking care of our own.

I forgot about that (McCoy concussion). Good point. I believe it was very shortly after this game (or maybe right before) that the league mandated having an independent head injury doc on the sidelines keeping an eye out for potential concussions. Point is, times were a-changing, and there were a few teams that didn't have the whole concussion evaluation process figured out. The hit was vicious and brutal that he shouldn't have gone back out there, but the Browns weren't the only team that failed to execute this process correctly around this time.

IIRC (and please correct me if I'm wrong), but the staph infection years weren't just isolated to us, right? I remember a couple teams at various points having staph issues. I believe that kicked off a bunch of changes to how teams keep their facilities clean, and hygiene practices in the locker room.

The staph issue may have extended to other teams (I forget, really) but we had like five or six players get it. In one instance it almost killed a guy (Bentley). Then JJ sued the Browns & I'm pretty sure Bentley did too. It was a nightmare.

Not to mention Olivier Vernon...

We absorbed what, almost 160 million in payroll obligations from the Giants over the next three years? Two headaches for the Giants. Both players in and out of practice so far this training camp? Who won this trade? Time will tell, but we undoubtedly helped out the Giants cap situation, and we are missing Zeitler already.

?????????

$160 milion over 3 years?????

How?

Where?

We don't pay OBJ's signing bonus, so all we are on the hook for is roughly $15-17 million for 5 years. ($77 million total, if he earns every incentive) We can get out f his deal in 2020, if necessary, for a minimal cap hit.

Vernon has 2 years left on a deal worth roughly $31 million.

We can move on from him after this season for a cap savings, if necessary.

We also eliminated the salaries of Zeittler and Peppers.

Where do you get $160 million?

I would also add that the Giants are paying OBJ more this season that we are. (from a cap perspective) His entire $20 million signing bonus accelerates on their cap this year.

They also accelerate $8 million in terms of Vernon's signing bonus against this year's cap.

In fairness, we also are finishing paying Zeittler's signing bonus that accelerates against the cap. (roughly $7.2 million) We also pay the remainder of Pepper's bonus, which appears to be $6.58 million.

Maybe because the Redskins are playing hardball and turning down all Trade offers ... at least that is the published reports.

A trade may not happen simply because they are so dysfunctional. I get the feeling that they are floundering and spinning; trying to figure out how to get themselves into a position of leverage in the situation.

That is my issue here as well. While I agree with bonefish that this would be a logical conclusion coming from any normal organization, I think he may be giving the Redskins too much credit in that department.

With this bunch in Washington, while feeling a logical conclusion may end up being the outcome, I can't see it as some foregone conclusion.

Daniel Snyder is a turd of the highest order. He would definitely sit on an asset just to prove s point.