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Been getting the Ticket since oh wow...I think since 2001

Direct TV or should I say ATT (Direct TV is going down the hill since ATT came on).

But ATT is not showing CBS any longer in their regular tv programming.

They still have the ticket. I use to speak to real Americans who understood the programming. Now its all from India or some out source and they don't have a clue what the NFL Ticket is.

I tried to tell them that half the games are televised by CBS will they still be carrying those games even though they will not carry CBS. My favorite team of course the BROWNS are in the AFC which is televised by CBS - they couldn't answer me...they couldn't understand what the heck I was talking about.

What are my options...surely after 19 years of getting the NFL Ticket there has to be another source to watch the Browns.

How and where and I don't know how to stream on my TV?

But I think I have to get rid of Direct TV half the TV I watch are programs on CBS Surely there are other Direct TV users out there with a similar problem.

What to do??? Any suggestions???


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I hadn’t even thought about this but it’s a great question.

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I really can't help you. I have Dish.

But, not just with dish, with any major company, I get sick and tired of having to push 1 for english, then being connected to someone that appears to have learned english the day before.

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For such a popular league, the NFL is the hardest to watch the games you want to see.

I normally just pay for the RedZone and be done with it. I'm not shelling out for Direct TV just for a few games a year.


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I imagine if DirecTV doesn't work it out with CBS and ends up not broadcasting games, they will be in breach of their NFL contract and lose it.

Which would be awesome, as I imagine the next contract wont be exclusive.


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I would imagine they will show the games. Just not anything else from CBS.


If not, guess you don't get to see the game


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I think the only issue is if a game is blacked out locally. Of course, if you are local and the game is blacked out, you would not be able to watch it on regular tv or w/an antennae.

I think it will all be good. I wouldn't cancel just yet.

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Did I explain that correctly? For example, tab is on Long Island. He won't have to worry about Brown's games being blacked out.

Wait....do we play the Jets this year? If so, is it in NY?

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I would think that there is about 0% chance that they don't resolve this before the season starts. Neither side wants to lose viewers on such an expensive, yet profitable venture.


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However, I should add that this is ATT, so rational thought and customer service are long gone from their business.

Since ATT bought DirecTV, their customer service has been atrocious.


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EO, if you have a smart TV you just load the apps to stream, if not you need a streaming device like roku or amazon fire stick that plugs into an hdmi port on your tv.

This is a good recent article that will let you know who is out there and how they compare.

https://www.cnet.com/news/best-live-tv-streaming-services-for-cord-cutters/

I'm pretty sure these are all month to month too, so there's not much risk to pick them up for a month or two until ATT gets a deal done.

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There is also CBS all access:

https://www.cbs.com/all-access/

Free trial - $9.99 a month. It's an app you can watch on your phone, tablet, PC, or TV

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Just go to bar....its so much fun!


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Just go to bar....its so much fun!
This will not work though, if DirecTv doesn't have CBS. The bar will have the same issue.

CBS is not broadcasting on DirecTV due to a contract dispute.

Bars use Sunday Ticket - what Tab is saying, if the games on CBS will not be included on Sunday Ticket - there is going to be a problem watching them anywhere.

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They’ll get it resolved long before the nfl season begins ...

This crap happens all the time ... they always get it resolved even though ATT has ruined DTV ... they’ll get it done ...

I’d be shocked if it even goes dark ... as of last night i was still getting CBS on DTV ...




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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
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Just go to bar....its so much fun!
This will not work though, if DirecTv doesn't have CBS. The bar will have the same issue.

CBS is not broadcasting on DirecTV due to a contract dispute.

Bars use Sunday Ticket - what Tab is saying, if the games on CBS will not be included on Sunday Ticket - there is going to be a problem watching them anywhere.


If the game is on your local CBS station and not blacked-out in your area, you can get the game using an antenna, unless you live in the boonies.


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Not a fan of DirecTV since being taken over by ATT and would cut the cord if it wasn't for the ticket.

I have a contract at a discounted price that is up in August. I called yesterday to see if I could extend my contract at the same price and get the ticket for free. I ended up at $25 more per month than I am paying now for programming, a one time bill credit of $99, and a one month off credit for the ticket max ($65.99). Not the best deal but I just don't feel like dealing with it anymore.

My general impression is you can get better deals if you are willing to do one of two things...1. Keep calling until you get a deal you like or 2. Cancel and wait for them to ask you back with the same deals new customers get. It usually takes about a month for them to ask you back, and being this close to the season I didn't want to chance it.

As for the CBS issues, my assumption is that it won't apply to the ticket.

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The NFL has a lot of sway with CBS and Direct.


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Usually when I cancel they call back within 24 hours. I have never paid for Sunday Ticket one time and I get Max every year.

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I hate to be a pain in the butt, because I know it's been discussed... I don't have DTV, I have cable, what am I doing to watch games now that I'm stuck here in St Louis?


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I hate to be a pain in the butt, because I know it's been discussed... I don't have DTV, I have cable, what am I doing to watch games now that I'm stuck here in St Louis?


Go to a sports bar.


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I hate to be a pain in the butt, because I know it's been discussed... I don't have DTV, I have cable, what am I doing to watch games now that I'm stuck here in St Louis?
Discord or reddit


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Waiting patiently here as well. 15 year DTV and Sunday Ticket customer here.


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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
They’ll get it resolved long before the nfl season begins ...

This crap happens all the time ... they always get it resolved even though ATT has ruined DTV ... they’ll get it done ...

I’d be shocked if it even goes dark ... as of last night i was still getting CBS on DTV ...
I have been dark for weeks. I don't get CBS or ABC right now.

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Just go to bar....its so much fun!
This will not work though, if DirecTv doesn't have CBS. The bar will have the same issue.

CBS is not broadcasting on DirecTV due to a contract dispute.

Bars use Sunday Ticket - what Tab is saying, if the games on CBS will not be included on Sunday Ticket - there is going to be a problem watching them anywhere.


If the game is on your local CBS station and not blacked-out in your area, you can get the game using an antenna, unless you live in the boonies.
I live near Pittsburgh, im not getting the game locally. DirecTv is my only recourse. Which is why this is a big problem.

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Wow ... that don’t make sense ... i have it in SC and were fine .. checked last night ...

Sounds like it regionalized .. i would have never imagined ...




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Just go to bar....its so much fun!
This will not work though, if DirecTv doesn't have CBS. The bar will have the same issue.

CBS is not broadcasting on DirecTV due to a contract dispute.

Bars use Sunday Ticket - what Tab is saying, if the games on CBS will not be included on Sunday Ticket - there is going to be a problem watching them anywhere.


If the game is on your local CBS station and not blacked-out in your area, you can get the game using an antenna, unless you live in the boonies.
I live near Pittsburgh, im not getting the game locally. DirecTv is my only recourse. Which is why this is a big problem.


Are you saying you don't get any Sunday games on CBS?


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Did I explain that correctly? For example, tab is on Long Island. He won't have to worry about Brown's games being blacked out.

Wait....do we play the Jets this year? If so, is it in NY?


If we are national televised game (2nd game after the Jets) that will get blacked out. Normally I wouldnt have to worry about it but finally we will be getting some 4pm games nationally Televised and I will miss.

Also like Judge Judy for instance is viewed on a L.I. Channel that runs a lot of shows most not on CBS but like on CBS its at 4pm well this LI station has Judge Judy on 10pm...well I taped it last night and when I went to watch it, it had the same BS not available stuff as normally on channel 2 (CBS up here) which got me to think about the NFL Ticket

Now I saw NFL . com has NFL stream for $99 including preseason games.

But I don' think I have a smart TV as I cannot get You tube to come on to my regular tv even connected by Wifi.

Was going to ask Cable if they could run a line from my computer directly to my TV and I can watch the Stream??? I got a lot of ports and stuff on my TV gotten like 10 years ago before smart TVs, 52 inch and works great.

real read on - thank you Vers for your suggestions, something are just more important than personal BS...lol laugh


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
EO, if you have a smart TV you just load the apps to stream, if not you need a streaming device like roku or amazon fire stick that plugs into an hdmi port on your tv.

This is a good recent article that will let you know who is out there and how they compare.

https://www.cnet.com/news/best-live-tv-streaming-services-for-cord-cutters/

I'm pretty sure these are all month to month too, so there's not much risk to pick them up for a month or two until ATT gets a deal done.

AMAZON FIRE STICKS

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=fire+stick

ROKU STICKS

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=roku+stick

There is also CBS all access:

https://www.cbs.com/all-access/

Free trial - $9.99 a month. It's an app you can watch on your phone, tablet, PC, or TV

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Thanks OCD...people from my wifes work (Windowrama) told my wife about the fire sticks where you can watch Baseball, Basketball etc.

I'll probably be contacting you in a PM...I am tightest ever as I just got out of the Hospital with yet two more surgeries..I've been wiped out so can't just buy a smart TV.

But if I can watch stuff from the computer onto my TV like a screen why I was going to ask technical guys from Cable to see if they can run a line (not Wifi stuff) but direct line to my Optimum then I might make the switch. I got the phone and Optimum but not the TV stuff so maybe I can get a good deal.

thanks all...I'm also into my golf and the Fedex finals start next week of course on CBS...this sucks they got to fix this. Wish I could speak to a normal person from Direct TV who can tell me that this will soon be resolved but they couldn't tell me anything but repeat what was on their PAPER they were reading from...I got so frustrated that I told them "You are about as useful as [censored] on a bull hog" and hung up...not yelling just frustrated...lol laugh


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Wait. . . you record Judge Judy?

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I wish Judge Judy had been the judge at the OJ Simpson trial.... She wouldn't have put up with the dream team BS.


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Usually when I cancel they call back within 24 hours. I have never paid for Sunday Ticket one time and I get Max every year.


And yet you wouldn't sell me the remote portion. Lame.

I've heard of the call backs the day after. Hasn't happened to me and I've cancelled twice in the last 3 years.

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Usually when I cancel they call back within 24 hours. I have never paid for Sunday Ticket one time and I get Max every year.


And yet you wouldn't sell me the remote portion. Lame.

I've heard of the call backs the day after. Hasn't happened to me and I've cancelled twice in the last 3 years.


I cancel every year and every year my deal gets better. They are desperate to keep subscribers. I have every channel I want, plus HBO, and free NFL Sunday Ticket Max and I pay $85 a month.

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Just go to bar....its so much fun!
This will not work though, if DirecTv doesn't have CBS. The bar will have the same issue.

CBS is not broadcasting on DirecTV due to a contract dispute.

Bars use Sunday Ticket - what Tab is saying, if the games on CBS will not be included on Sunday Ticket - there is going to be a problem watching them anywhere.


If the game is on your local CBS station and not blacked-out in your area, you can get the game using an antenna, unless you live in the boonies.
I live near Pittsburgh, im not getting the game locally. DirecTv is my only recourse. Which is why this is a big problem.


Are you saying you don't get any Sunday games on CBS?
I am saying that if the Steelers are on the same time as the Browns, I get the Steelers. If the Steelers are on a different time as the Browns, I will typically get the Ravens, or another team.

I think locally last year I got like 3 Browns games total locally.

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Wait. . . you record Judge Judy?


I record everything that I watch...as I don't watch commercials. Recorded it on another channel and it still wouldn't show it.
It does say stuff like how to get it on your app...but I'm not watching tv with wife on my phone!

I just wish they could tell me that they are negotiating and an agreement is eventual. But I get nothing in response and their customer service basically read from the same card and nothing more. When asked differently they read the exact same thing they just read to me a couple of minutes ago.

Diam...you have directv and still get CBS??? how so??? it s not a regional thing.

Well not going to panic just yet. The fire stick specialist at my wife's work gets back from vacation Monday will get more info there.

Thanks all and if anyone here's that an agreement has been made or negotiations look like its near...please let me know.
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Just go to bar....its so much fun!
This will not work though, if DirecTv doesn't have CBS. The bar will have the same issue.

CBS is not broadcasting on DirecTV due to a contract dispute.

Bars use Sunday Ticket - what Tab is saying, if the games on CBS will not be included on Sunday Ticket - there is going to be a problem watching them anywhere.


If the game is on your local CBS station and not blacked-out in your area, you can get the game using an antenna, unless you live in the boonies.
I live near Pittsburgh, im not getting the game locally. DirecTv is my only recourse. Which is why this is a big problem.


Are you saying you don't get any Sunday games on CBS?
I am saying that if the Steelers are on the same time as the Browns, I get the Steelers. If the Steelers are on a different time as the Browns, I will typically get the Ravens, or another team.

I think locally last year I got like 3 Browns games total locally.


That is the choice of the local CBS Affiliate. Apparently more people in your area would rather watch those two teams. The Sunday Ticket contract is now in place through the 2020/2021 season. So it's buy the ticket or go to a bar; or find some illegal feed somewhere. Those generally aren't very good though.


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I don't know how i still get it ...

just went and checked again ... cool ... Wayne Brady is now the host of lets make a deal ... love that dude he’s funny as hell ...

Next time u call ask if its regional ... not sure why else i get it in SC AND U DON’T OUT ON THE ISLE ... oooops on the caps ...




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I second the Fire Stick and NFL Sunday ticket app. It is the way that I do it as well.

You can watch from your computer/tablet as well. The only downside is that you can only have one stream going at a time.


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I still get my local CBS station as well. My problem with DircTV is my local NBC channel because of the dispute with NEXSTAR.

As of July 24th the CBS blackout is not national. It is limited to "CBS owned stations". Which is limited to 14 markets.

AT&T chief says bid-ask on CBS retrans deal narrows; Nexstar gap still too wide

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Jul 24, 2019

AT&T chairman and CEO Randall Stephenson said he believes the pay TV giant may be close to a compromise with CBS in its retransmission consent dispute, adding that the company is still far apart on sealing a similar deal with Nexstar Media Group.

CBS owned and operated stations in 14 markets went dark to AT&T U-Verse, DirecTV and DirecTV Now customers on July 19 after the two failed to reach a retransmission consent agreement. On a conference call with analysts to discuss Q2 results, Stephenson said that although AT&T submitted a counter offer to CBS five days ago and has yet to hear a response, he was somewhat confident a deal would be reached.

“On CBS, the bid/ask is not that wide,” Stephenson said. “We sent what I thought was a reasonable fair offer over five days ago, it’s been crickets, we haven’t heard anything. When you’re as close as we are, we find it a little interesting that we’re still sitting here dark and not having interaction with CBS. I’m guessing they are probably distracted with other negotiations right now, but I don’t know.”

Later he said that he was optimistic a deal could be reached.

“Hopefully we’ll just get them back to the table and get this thing closed,” Stephenson said.

He was not, however, as optimistic about a quick resolution to its Nexstar dispute.

Related: Saturday in the Park (Not)

About 126 Nexstar stations in 97 markets went dark to AT&T pay TV customers on July 3.

Stephenson said that Nexstar’s opening offer in the negotiations was a 100% increase in retrans rates. Although that demand has since been reduced to a 50% increase, he believes it is still too high.

“That one may take longer, but we'll just have to be resolute on this one,” Stephenson said. “We're not just going to impose those kind of price increases on our customers.”

He noted that unlike other retrans blackouts, customers appear to be taking advantage of other means to access over-the-air broadcast programming "at a pretty significant rate." AT&T has informed customers they can access broadcast content via digital antenna, the Locast app, and a device called the Local Channel Connector, which places broadcast programming into their programming guides.

“That one could take awhile,” Stephenson said.

https://www.multichannel.com/news/stephenson-close-to-deal-with-cbs-nexstar-may-take-longer

So with tab it could be one of two things. He could be in a viewing area where his CBS channel is actually owned by the network or it could be owned by NEXSTAR.

Hopefully that may help explain why we have CBS and he doesn't.


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Like someone said, the dispute is not with CBS, it's with Nexstar, they own the CBS station in your market, where I live it's ABC. I know this because I work for Nexstar and I can't currently watch the channel I work for. What you can do is call DirecTV and tell them you are mad about it, and they will send you an over the air antenna, that's what I did. It plugs into your DirecTV receiver and comes up on your guide just like it use too. This works with your DVR too.

Just a little background, it's called a retrans dispute. DirecTV pays Nexstar a fee to broadcast their signal. DirecTV wants to pay a lower fee and Nexstar wants them to pay more. DirecTV's arguement is we bring your signal to the people. But Nexstar's arguement is we produce the content. Basically, it's a pissing contest.

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