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I’m really hoping we can claim Blake and stash him; by all accounts he had a great camp

This guy JTB is leaving with windburn. Not sure I see him in NFL for a lengthy career. Love all the Buckeyes, but this isn't a strong fit IMO.

A possible landing spot for Duke? ...

D'ONTA FOREMAN
RB, UNSIGNED FREE AGENT

Texans waived RB D'Onta Foreman.

It's a shocker as some were expecting Foreman, a former Doak Walker Award winner at Texas, to push Lamar Miller for top billing in Houston's backfield. Longtime beat reporter John McClain of the Houston Chronicle believes the Texans were unsatisfied with Foreman's "work habits," noting that coach Bill O'Brien "wasn't happy" with what he had seen from him in training camp. Foreman's departure leaves Houston extremely thin at running back with Josh Ferguson, Buddy Howell and Taiwan Jones among names vying for backup duties behind Miller. Foreman, who barely played last year following a 2017 Achilles tear, should resurface quickly.

RELATED: Houston Texans
SOURCE: John McClain on Twitter
Aug 4, 2019, 8:48 AM ET

Rumors on twitter say Melvin Gordon or Duke might interest Houston ... if the price is right, sure.

But of course he’s injured so that has to be accounted for too

Well....

Browns sign defensive tackle Brandin Bryant, offensive tackle Travis Vornkahl

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/08...s-vornkahl.html


BEREA, Ohio -- The Browns made a series of roster moves on Friday, the day after their preseason opener.

They signed defensive tackle Brandin Bryant out of Florida Atlantic and offensive tackle Travis Vornkahl from West Texas A&M. To make room on the roster, center John Yarbrough and defensive tackle Tracy Sprinkle were waived.

Bryant, signed as an undrafted free agent with the Seahawks in 2016 and spent time with the Jets in 2017. The Omaha, Nebraska native most recently played in the CFL. He is listed at 6-foot-3, 294 pounds.

Vornkahl was one of 30 players invited in May to participate in rookie minicamp on a tryout basis. The 6-foot-6, 287-pound native of Sealy, Texas, was a three-year starter in college after not playing his first two years in school. He started 11 games at right tackle during his final college season.

Sprinkle may be back based on what i’ve Read, but we’ll see

MY goodness that’s a lotta dough

Yowsers.

I'm not a big Dak fan.

Man, I hope when its Baker's turn he does the team a solid.

That’s absurd money IMO .. he’s not a top tier QB. Dallas might be better off drafting a rookie and paying Zeke

Wait. What?

He turned down $30 million a YEAR??? He wants $40 million a YEAR????

Did I read that correctly? If so, that's insane.

WHAT? His agent must be crazy we all saw how bad he was without Zeke behind him, he should have taken that contract and laughed all the way to the bank ...

No kidding.
If I was a GM, I wouldn't go much higher than $20/year
And I wuldn't feel good about that either

And rumor was Dallas already offered 30

He's not gonna take any less than what Eagles paid Wentz.

Cowboys know that.

We'll see if Baker is aboard the train or if he is trying to hold it up.

FWIW

DAK PRESCOTT
QB, DALLAS COWBOYS

ProFootballTalk reports Dak Prescott has not asked for $40 million annually.

This conflicts with a previous report. The Cowboys are offering Prescott top-five money, but it's clear the sides still have work to do. Even with Prescott in a walk year, he's not a lock to be extended before the season.

SOURCE: ProFootballTalk on NBCSports
Aug 12, 2019, 5:32 PM ET

While working out today, I was watching a sport's show and they were talking about Dak's situation. Dude has never missed a game and his numbers compare favorably to guys who are making big dollars. He is also a very good leader and keeps has kept his nose clean in the NFL.

He will get paid.

We will. If not we can sign Rosen for $7 mil a year.

I spent the day driving back to NY ..

It is no longer hot ...

That is all!!!!

Ya, I liked my own damm post .. thats how happy i am ...

That is all ... for reals ... *L*

He should. I wanted to draft him when he came out.

I can’t believe Zeke’s holding out with2 years left on contract ..

Why Rosen? He didn't play very well last year and the Cards gave up on him.

I've been thinking that you can't beat having a "good" QB who is on his rookie deal. After that rookie deal, they are all going to be vastly overpaid. Guys like Stafford, Cousins, and Ryan are making huge money. So is Jimmy G although that was a unique situation.

The cost for QBs is rapidly sky-rocketing. Having a good--or even decent--young qb who is on his rookie deal is going to become more and more and more important.

I envy that...heat index today was 107°. Real temp 97°.

I like living in the South 8 months of the year but the crappy months of June, July, August, and Sept. suck.


Actually mid May to mid Sept.

You get it now Bubba. To get away from cold ass temps and snow for months, you have to deal with hot ass summers, and they are hot.....you can now attest..

It is. The problem is you never know how decent they are going to be.

I said it years ago, the NFL hopes the QB position becomes a throw away position much like backs have become. The spread or whatever you want to call it helps them do that.

Play your guy 4-5 years, then move on to the next guy.

I have no doubt that he will get paid. I think it is a mistake though.
Dak is a nice solid Qb
Is he good enough to lead a really good team to a Super Bowl win? - Yes
Is he good enough to take up a quarter of a team's salary cap and win the Super Bowl?
I think not

The salary cap for 2019 is $191 million.

$40 million would be 21%
$30 million is almost 16%

Maybe not a quarter but 21% is close enough for government work.

If anyone is interested, 25% of the salary cap would be $47.75

Hopefully the new CBA gets a grip on this BS much like the current got a grip on crazy Rookie money.

Might benefit us for Mayfield in 3 years.

J/c

Eventually, maybe the QB salary will just be counted as a separate entity .. or a hybrid model of both, or something

Couple things.

As far as Dak goes, I feel like there's guaranteed money involved that wouldn't count against the salary cap...?

And next, when it comes to Baker we should make him the highest paid QB when the time comes. If we don't we would be the stupid ones. We need to plan for that when the time comes. Our goal for the future should be to keep Baker and OBJ together as long as possible.

The blessing and curse of having good young players: their contracts must be extended.

Of course Baker will be the highest paid QB at his time, but so will OBJ, so will Myles, so will Ward, etc.

This is a delicate balance of knowing who to extend, when, and who NOT to

Yes, that'll be the struggle we have to figure out.

Baker, clearly has to be extended. I get that young qb's on rookie deals are huge value, but finding that is very very difficult (as we have seen since our return). So Baker will get paid, and he'll be here a very long time.

Myles and Ward also play high value top-notch positions. So we'd clearly like to re-sign them too. It'll certainly be a balance. I think it can be done though.

OBJ is actually great value (as long as he doesn't try to re-negotiate on us out of nowhere). If he's a good soldier (who knows if he will be), i don't think he'll be going anywhere. The Giants paid him a ton up front for us

Yes let’s give the money to the billion owners and not to the players who are literally killing them selves.

J/c

IMO, if Odell stays healthy this year and puts up his typical numbers, he’s going to be asking for a new deal