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It's Browns week at The Ringer. I think this means we have arrived all the way.
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There were actually some astute comments by Dorsey in that first article. Thanks for posting.
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I know that the Daniel Jones comment will get a lot of attention across the country, but I’m not so sure he meant it as a diss to Jones either ... it was maybe just like “I can’t believe they went against the grain ...”
Not sure exactly what he meant, but it’ll probably be discussed way too much now.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I know that the Daniel Jones comment will get a lot of attention across the country, but I’m not so sure he meant it as a diss to Jones either ... it was maybe just like “I can’t believe they went against the grain ...”
Not sure exactly what he meant, but it’ll probably be discussed way too much now. Are you talking about this? Near our booth, a SportsCenter segment about the New York Giants catches Mayfield's eye. “I cannot believe the Giants took Daniel Jones,” Mayfield says, about New York's much-maligned draft-day decision to spend the sixth pick on the quarterback from Duke (whose college record was a measly 17–19). “Blows my mind.”
I tell Mayfield that I'm mystified that so many supposedly expert quarterback scouts seem unable to predict what makes a good NFL quarterback.
“Some people overthink it,” Mayfield says. “That's where people go wrong. They forget you've gotta win.” Looks like a diss to me. The guy just has a propensity to demean others. Of course, I'm sure the usual avalanche of excuses and attacks will commence.
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I know that the Daniel Jones comment will get a lot of attention across the country, but I’m not so sure he meant it as a diss to Jones either ... it was maybe just like “I can’t believe they went against the grain ...”
Not sure exactly what he meant, but it’ll probably be discussed way too much now. It was 100% a diss. It's not earth shattering though, most people had the same thoughts when the Giants drafted Daniel Jones.
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Welcome to Cleveland, Where the Browns Are True Contenders For the NFL’s centenary, a historically hexed franchise and an agonizingly vexed fan base are eagerly anticipating a resurrection of Biblical proportions. Thanks to some bold moves and brash personalities, the league’s biggest losers of the last two decades—yes, the Cleveland Browns—are Super Bowl contenders. By Ben Baskin https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/08/20/clevel...reddie-kitchens
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Yep he's not perfect Vers...
All I care about is wins for my Browns though and as long as he's not breaking the law and winning I'm happy.
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Sounds like Freddie reads the board ... 
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It's definitely a diss, not necessarily of Daniel Jones though but of the Giants.
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I know that the Daniel Jones comment will get a lot of attention across the country, but I’m not so sure he meant it as a diss to Jones either ... it was maybe just like “I can’t believe they went against the grain ...”
Not sure exactly what he meant, but it’ll probably be discussed way too much now. Are you talking about this? Near our booth, a SportsCenter segment about the New York Giants catches Mayfield's eye. “I cannot believe the Giants took Daniel Jones,” Mayfield says, about New York's much-maligned draft-day decision to spend the sixth pick on the quarterback from Duke (whose college record was a measly 17–19). “Blows my mind.”
I tell Mayfield that I'm mystified that so many supposedly expert quarterback scouts seem unable to predict what makes a good NFL quarterback.
“Some people overthink it,” Mayfield says. “That's where people go wrong. They forget you've gotta win.” Looks like a diss to me. The guy just has a propensity to demean others. Of course, I'm sure the usual avalanche of excuses and attacks will commence. I actually wish Baker would shut the hell up about other players, coaches, teams, draft picks.... whatever.
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Im sure the usual suspects are jumping on baker for his comments on the Giants Qb.
He has already come out and said they have misquoted him, and that is not the context of what he said, but hey....as long as some are able to get a shot in at a 20 something kid.....
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Anyone have the full quote of what he said ? AS stated in the thread here it would be a diss on Daniels 100% .... but I also don't think Baker would try to get out of something he said, so I take it at face value when he says he's been taken out of context .... but I'd like to read what he said for myself.
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Click the image, read Baker's words.
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I took the comment initially as NOT a diss but a comment on how “you never know” or “it’s okay to buck the trend” etc ... I also see that Baker has come out and commented on his perception of the truth and the “misquote”
Could he be backtracking now? Of course. I could be wrong with my initial thought as well.
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Baker summed it up. Move on.
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The public is going to believe what they want, including me. I think it's just as likely that the writer decided to create some additional buzz for his article by perpetuating the arrogant QB narrative on Mayfield. I think Mayfield's explanation is plausible. Two quotes combined to produce an impression. Mayfield is quite capable of making unflattering remarks about players that he knows, the Texas QB remarks are evidence of that. But I'm hearing no one suggests he has a history with Daniel Jones, including Daniel Jones. I don't think he would just call out somebody randomly. If that's what happened I'm not on board with it.
I hope he becomes more guarded with the press. Even refusing to be interviewed by some or, better yet how about some Russell Westbrook, "next question" responses.
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Yeah, I pretty much agree about the press.
I get tired of the old excuse, "Yeah, but they asked him about it."
What you are asked is no excuse for the answer you give.
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I actually wish Baker would shut the hell up about other players, coaches, teams, draft picks.... whatever
I hate it when players go stupid and allow their mouth to get ahead of their brain.
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This was Baker's response:
“This is not what I said . . . just so we’re clear,” Mayfield wrote. “I also said I was surprised I got drafted number one. Then was talking about the flaws in evaluating QBs. Where I brought up winning being important. Reporters and media will do anything to come up with a click bait story. Heard nothing but good things and wish nothing but the best for Daniel.”
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Ok, if that is Baker's claim, then I believe him. I still wish he'd tone it down though.
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Ok, if that is Baker's claim, then I believe him. I still wish he'd tone it down though. Okay. Let's say I'm someone in the media. Using your post, here is what I would post in order to get clicks: Lamp claims Baker wasn't honest and wishes he'd shut up." See how it works? Click bait. Same thing happens in politics.
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women have shows like 'pretty little liars' to fill their drama needs.
men have the NFL to fill ours.
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I read Baker's comments and I don't think he is lying. His story seems plausible and I don't think he is the type to backtrack. I will take back my earlier comment that he was wrong to say what he did. I actually believe him.
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women have shows like 'pretty little liars' to fill their drama needs.
men have the NFL to fill ours.
I always thought that was what the NBA was for.
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mostly all sports.
but the NFL is....i dunno. somehow the diva's in the nfl surpass those in the NBA. dont ask me for stats on that though
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I have no idea why Antonio Brown, B. Farve, and T. Owens just popped into my head after reading your post.
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Maybe this the wrong place but the Baker headline was here.
I thought it was pretty odd that Odell made the comment "They thought they'd send me here to die".
I don't know. When I read stuff like this in the back of my mind there is always a question. "Where is the BS"?
Odell? The author? What? Just me but I don't think a NFL franchise's make deals to punish players.
They make deals to improve, move money, address problems.
I don't know the truth.
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because those are the epitome of diva's in the nfl.
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I worked for 2 local news stations. I can tell you without question this is commonplace. It's disgusting and they don't care how it can mess with people's lives. They just need a certain amount of clicks a month to keep their jobs.
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Until the players on this team prove they can park their ego's and "be a team" the "hype" is WAY over the top! They haven't won a game yet, nor have they had a winning season. Playoffs? Get ready for a sluggish start and headlines such as, "What's wrong with the Browns?" Hope I am wrong but the writing is on the wall.....my $0.02.
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Get ready for a division title.
The only thing that will stop us is injuries. I firmly believe that.
I also would like to rest some of our starters until Sept. 8. I'm good with keeping our big guns on the sidelines in exhibition games.
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I worked for 2 local news stations. I can tell you without question this is commonplace. It's disgusting and they don't care how it can mess with people's lives. They just need a certain amount of clicks a month to keep their jobs. I also worked for a tv station as well.. you make your promos provocative to gain viewers, in this case clicks. Those numbers are then used to raise advertising prices, or sell more ad time. Show the advertisers good ratings, and they will buy.
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