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It very well could be. It also could be a mixture of both.

At the end, as long as we make the playoffs, then all this noise during the off-season matters little.

I just don’t want mouths and hype to come crashing down on us. I’m just hoping this year it’s really different and we finally win for a change.

Does anyone know how many other current NFL players publicly bashed the Jones pick? Or any other pick for that matter?

Except after he put it in to context and the complete quote was known, he didn't bash Jones.

Sorry, but you are wrong. The combination of the quotes made it seem worse than it was. However, if you just let the first quote stand alone........it was an insult.

But, you did not answer my question. How many other current players are bashing picks made by other teams?

The excuses you guys make are a joke.

Does anyone except you care????

That's it, keith. Make it about me.

I don't post much, but I agree with you Swish. Far too much talking for a team that finished below 500. Not playing starters in preseason games? What are we a perpetual winner like the Patriots that know what we will get when the season starts? Not hardly! They are a talented collection of Ego's that have never played meaningful games together nor have they been under duress together...that which shows the true character of the team. We have proven nothing to this point to warrant ANY talk, about other players or teams.

Time will tell, but I am expecting a rough start to the season...then we will find out what they are made of.

My $0.02.

Once again we see how some people blame the answer a player gives on being asked a question.

What has anyone on this team said that gives anyone the impression we are running our mouths?

I get that we are confident but no one is "running their mouth."

I've spotted the agenda.

One thing I agree with is that the team must win in order to diffuse the media scrutiny. It seems obvious to me that the media either by design or not is setting up the Browns to be skewered if they fall flat.

The few impolite things that may have been said here and there by Browns players are not that controversial, offensive or outrageous when compared to the history of brash quotes that have been uttered by players in the 100 years of the NFL.

Because the team has no recent foundation of success it lends to heightened concern by some. If we had even won the division a few time say in the past ten years we'd be just shrugging it off for what it is. Inconsequential.

I disagree that this is the media's fault. We have guys running their mouths. I don't see other players saying I was traded to this place to die or I can't believe they made that pick.

Baker and OBJ talk too much. I think Freddie does, too. If we win in a big way, that cockiness will be portrayed in a positive light. If we don't, the scrutiny will not be positive.

I just know I never hear things like this coming out of New England. And again, I never hear current players bashing teams for their draft choices.

Bingo!

Come out of gate at 0-1 and you'll instantly hear, "Browns gonna Brown" and crap like that. 0-2 and Freddie will be struggling to keep the wheels on.

I'd like guys to say nothing except they're working hard as a team to improve this organization.

Are you saying that 0-2 would be treated differently if they were choir boys? I seriously doubt that.

I'm saying regardless. Talking alot would be just gasoline on the fire.

0-2 would be disastrous not because of the record but because of who we would have lost to in game 2. Baker and Darnold are tied at the hip and will be compared from now until they retire. If Baker doesn't have the better career, it was the wrong pick.

Yea. Going 0-2 against the titans and jets would sound the panic alarm.

Especially because the next 6 games after that is gonna be a tough stretch.

Rams
Ravens
49ers
Seahawks
Patriots
Broncos

The Titans were 9 - 7 last year, losing to them would not be inconceivable. After watching the offense starters in preseason game 3, with or without Beckham/Landry/Chubb, losing to the Titans is not beyond the realm of possibility.