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I can't feel comfortable saying too much at this point because the roster is going to change several times over the next day or three.

I just hope the decision on the punter doesn't come back to bite us in "real" games. I am not predicting it will, but I've never been a fan of getting rid of proven and dependable players for potential.


Agreed...I can see the promise and big upside in "the hammer" and I'm sure they mulled it over, considering Colquitt is a good-very good punter with a ton of seasoning under his belt. One thing I always hate about a new GM, is when they clear away everyone, including the good stable vets...But guess it was coming sooner or later.

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Just when I started to warm up to Braxton Miller for the first time ever.

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Browns recently acquired guard Justin McCray finished the preseason ranked as the No. 61 graded interior offensive linemen (out of 278) by
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He played 110 snaps at center, 13 at left guard, and 45 at right guard and only allowed 1 hit, 1 hurry, and 2 pressures (0 sacks).

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A drop rate of 25% lol


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
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I just hope the decision on the punter doesn't come back to bite us in "real" games. I am not predicting it will, but I've never been a fan of getting rid of proven and dependable players for potential.


I agree, Colquit was Pro-Bowl Caliber and was one of if not the best at pinning the opponent inside the 20, the hammer can boom it but can he pin them deep or will he get a 30 yd. net on a punt from the 50 just sayin' ???


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That’s the question ... we obviously think he has high upside all around


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I just hope the decision on the punter doesn't come back to bite us in "real" games. I am not predicting it will, but I've never been a fan of getting rid of proven and dependable players for potential.


I agree, Colquit was Pro-Bowl Caliber and was one of if not the best at pinning the opponent inside the 20, the hammer can boom it but can he pin them deep or will he get a 30 yd. net on a punt from the 50 just sayin' ???


As an old rugby player, I can attest to the abilities of these guys to put a ball exactly where they want it.

Also, I bet he’s quite good at running a fake punt. Or, moving with the ball to one side or the other before kicking.

Could prove to be a very versatile weapon.

And he’s not afraid to light up a runner.

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John Dorsey explains key decisions behind Browns’ 53-man roster

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The Browns on Saturday made a slew of roster moves to get their roster down from 91 players to 53. The maximum roster size during the regular season is 53 with 46 eligible to play on game days.

The Browns made the following moves:

- The Browns terminated the contracts of LB Ray-Ray Armstrong, P Britton Colquitt, DT Carl Davis and G Bryan Witzmann.

- The Browns waived the following players: WR Dorian Baker, DT Brandin Bryant, TE Stephen Carlson, TE Seth DeValve, T Brian Fineanganofo, RB Trayone Gray, LB Willie Harvey, S J.T. Hassell, WR Ishmael Hyman, CB Robert Jackson, K Greg Joseph, CB Donnie Lewis Jr., S Montrel Meander, WR Braxton Miller, RB A.J. Ouellette, DE Jarrell Owens, CB Lenzy Pipkins, DT Brian Price, DE Wyatt Ray, S Tigie Sankoh, T Brad Seaton, WR Damon Sheehy-Guiseppi, LB Anthony Stubbs, T Travis Vornkahl, LB Dedrick Young II, WR Derrick Willies, G Willie Wright, DE Anthony Zettel

- The Browns waived/injured G Kyle Kalis (concussion) and FB Joe Kerridge (concussion).

- The Browns placed CB Phillip Gaines (concussion) on injured reserve.

- The Browns placed the following players on the reserve/suspended by commissioner list: WR Antonio Callaway, RB Kareem Hunt and TE Rico Gathers.


“I consider this one of the hardest days in the National Football League because you have virtually 37, 40 guys, whatever that number may be, here every day in and day out,” Browns general manager John Dorsey said. “And then the organization’s got to tell these guys you know what, they’re not going to be a part of the 53-man roster. So what I always do is try to use empathy, understanding and dignity when you kind of handle these situations. I think you have to do it that way and thank them for all they’ve done for this organization, how hard they’ve worked, how hard they’ve competed. Sometimes words can’t express how hard that transition is when you have to tell these guys that they’re no longer going to be a member of the Cleveland Browns.

“I want to thank everybody for what they’ve done, but moving forward now, now we’re down to the 53-man roster and we’re getting ready to play the Tennessee Titans and that should be our sole focus moving forward.”

Dating back to Thursday, the Browns made four trades, three of which brought new players to the roster and two of which were executed Saturday just before the NFL’s 4 p.m. deadline for roster cuts.

The Browns acquired WR Taywan Taylor from the Titans in exchange for a 2020 undisclosed draft pick. Taylor is 5-11, 205 pounds and entering his third NFL season out of Western Kentucky. Originally a third-round pick by Tennessee, Taylor has appeared in 29 games with nine starts. He has 53 career receptions for 697 yards with two touchdowns. Last year, he registered 37 receptions for 466 yards and one touchdown in 13 contests.

The Browns also acquired OL Justin McCray and a 2020 undisclosed draft pick from the Packers in exchange for a 2020 undisclosed draft pick.

McCray is 6-3, 315 pounds and in his third NFL season out of Central Florida. Originally signed Tennessee as an undrafted free agent in 2014, he has appeared in 25 regular season games with 13 starts. Last year, he appeared in 12 games with five starts for the Packers. He joins Wyatt Teller, who spent training camp with the Bills and was acquired in a trade Thursday, as the newest additions to Cleveland’s 10-man offensive line group.

“You’re trying to upgrade the back end of your roster. That’s what you’re trying to do,” Dorsey said. “I think with Taywan Taylor he gives you an element of speed. He gives you an experienced receiver who’s been the No. 3 receiver for the Titans. (Wide receivers coach) Adam Henry will do a magnificent job of kind of getting him up to speed on how this offense is run. He’ll have a few bumps in the road in terms of learning. It’s hard to digest this whole playbook in one shot so I don’t think you shove it at him at one time.

“And then, when you add Teller, Teller, that’s a depth move. And then when you add Justin McCray, that’s a depth move. So what you’re trying to do is trying to stabilize your foundation and make it as strong as possible because this is a long season. All those guys now that are along the line have played in the National Football League and have started some games, so that’s a good thing to have there because now, moving forward you have versatility, and these linemen have versatility and can play multiple positions. That’s all you really are seeking at this point.”


The Browns have increased experience throughout the roster over the past year but will roll with rookies at kicker and punter entering the 2019. Austin Seibert, a fifth-round pick in the 2019 draft, finished the preseason with six consecutive field goals and Jamie Gillan, a Scotland native who signed with the Browns as an undrafted free agent, handled all of the punting in the final two preseason games.

“I think what it reflects is we’re comfortable with where we are with those two young guys. I think that they have demonstrated their ability to be skillful at both of their positions,” Dorsey said. “We knew what Greg Joseph was and we knew what Britton Colquitt was as players. That’s why we gave those guys those two games to play because we really didn’t know how they’d respond under pressure. I thought they did a really nice job of taking on the challenge, accepting it and succeeding at achieving that goal. I think the organization is excited for the two young men. I think we have complete confidence in both of their abilities.

“You want to thank a veteran like Britton Colquitt for all he’s done for the Cleveland Browns and you want to thank Greg Joseph for all that he’s done. Like I told Greg, because we drafted the guy doesn’t mean that he automatically makes it, OK? We’re going to have a competition and it was a really good competition. And that’s with the punting situation, too. That’s why we talk about increasing competition. That’s why you have those battles. Because those two young guys made this decision really hard and I’m happy with where we are in the kicking game.”

Cleveland returns two of its three quarterbacks from last season in Baker Mayfield and Drew Stanton. Mayfield, the No. 1 pick in the 2018 draft, started the final 12 games of his rookie season. Garrett Gilbert was signed in April and led the Browns in passing yards during the preseason.

“I think that when it was (Gilbert’s) time to shine, he showed he could stand up and he could deliver,” Dorsey said. “You applaud him for how he’s played the game, how he’s progressed in the preseason and how quickly he’s grasped this offensive system and how much he’s grown in his respective role.”

From the start of training camp, coach Freddie Kitchens has called the defensive line a potential top strength of the team. Cleveland opted to keep nine players on that unit, including three Pro Bowlers in Garrett, Vernon and Richardson.

Two of the Browns’ six linebackers are rookies, but the veterans in the group, Joe Schobert and Christian Kirksey, have played more snaps than most over the past few seasons. They’re poised to do the same in 2019.

The Browns 11-man group of defensive backs includes six safeties. Throughout training camp and the preseason, the Browns sported plenty of three-safety looks, and a number of the players have versatility to play at multiple spots in the defensive backfield.


“I think it shows you where the game of football is evolving to because now the passing game is a big component of that, so you can’t have enough of those guys in the secondary,” Dorsey said. “Those back-end guys are going to have to contribute on special teams and they demonstrated that in the four preseason games that they were really good special teams players and they can help this special teams unit moving forward because it gave you an element of speed and that’s what you’re looking for on special teams nowadays.”

The Browns can make additional roster moves in the coming days via waiver claims and free agent signings. They’ll also look to construct a 10-man practice squad.

“Hopefully as we go to work here this evening, maybe we can pick up those stones and see if we can find a player or two moving forward to help the team,” Dorsey said.

Breaking down the Browns’ 53-man roster by position:
Quarterbacks (3): Baker Mayfield, Drew Stanton, Garrett Gilbert

Running backs (3): Nick Chubb, Dontrell Hilliard, D’Ernest Johnson

Wide receivers (5): Odell Beckham Jr., Jarvis Landry, Rashard Higgins, Taywan Taylor, Damion Ratley

Tight ends (3): David Njoku, Demetrius Harris, Pharaoh Brown


Offensive linemen (10): Greg Robinson, Joel Bitonio, JC Tretter, Eric Kush, Chris Hubbard, Austin Corbett, Drew Forbes, Kendall Lamm, Wyatt Teller, Justin McCray

Defensive linemen (9): Myles Garrett, Olivier Vernon, Chris Smith, Chad Thomas, Larry Ogunjobi, Sheldon Richardson, Devaroe Lawrence, Trevon Coley, Daniel Ekuale

Linebackers (6): Christian Kirksey, Joe Schobert, Mack Wilson, Sione Takitaki, Genard Avery, Adarius Taylor

Defensive backs (11): Denzel Ward, Terrance Mitchell, Greedy Williams, T.J. Carrie, Tavierre Thomas, Damarious Randall, Morgan Burnett, Jermaine Whitehead, Sheldrick Redwine, Eric Murray, Juston Burris

Specialists (3): K Austin Seibert, P Jamie Gillan, LS Charley Hughlett


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Sounds like both OL we traded for will start off on the bench


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I would be scouring the waiver wire for a TE. Harris has not looked good.


There will be no playoffs. Can’t play with who we have out there and compounding it with garbage playcalling and worse execution. We don’t have good skill players on offense period. Browns 20 - Bears 17.

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So D'Ernest Johnson is going to be our returner? I think he showed pretty well there.

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We’re working on a TE deal at the moment per rumors


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Biggest surprise is Colquit. Next surprise is Willies.

I figured Devalve wouldn't make it this go round.

Was rooting for Ouellette to make the team, but figured that was a long shot. Hope to see him on the PS.

As far as the trades.. Dorsey is just trying to beat the waiver wire. I don't expect much from Taylor seeing our WR room is so deep.


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Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs
I remember Taylor has really great speed...I remember Lebron going crazy over him in week 1 last year lol....But thats great value for a 7th round pick.


With that speed, any chance we brought him in to return kicks?


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I remember Taylor has really great speed...I remember Lebron going crazy over him in week 1 last year lol....But thats great value for a 7th round pick.


With that speed, any chance we brought him in to return kicks?


My first thought ...


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I remember Taylor has really great speed...I remember Lebron going crazy over him in week 1 last year lol....But thats great value for a 7th round pick.


With that speed, any chance we brought him in to return kicks?


Haven't even thought of that, But I know Adoree Jackson was their returner in Tennessee.

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j/c:

I preferred Anthony Zettel over Chad Thomas. Zettel has a great motor and doesn't take himself out of plays like Thomas does.

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Thats how I see it too ... plus, he’ll give us some information on TEN for week 1


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I preferred Anthony Zettel over Chad Thomas. Zettel has a great motor and doesn't take himself out of plays like Thomas does.


I am agreeing with you an awful lot here lately superconfused


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I preferred Anthony Zettel over Chad Thomas. Zettel has a great motor and doesn't take himself out of plays like Thomas does.


I agree, but I also know that we were not going to give up on Thomas so soon.


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Thomas is with Corbett as someone who has to show something now ... 2nd round picks should be impacting the team by now


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Thomas is with Corbett as someone who has to show something now ... 2nd round picks should be impacting the team by now


Yes. Next year they will not be getting a pass.


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OMG the legendary Seth Devalve got released.
Could never understand the hype he got to begin with.

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We’ll see if he gets picked up; there really isn’t even much film on him lol


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I preferred Anthony Zettel over Chad Thomas. Zettel has a great motor and doesn't take himself out of plays like Thomas does.


I agree, but I also know that we were not going to give up on Thomas so soon.


Thomas has been getting much love since OTAs. Specifically, I remember reading about him setting the edge. He got in GGGs doghouse early on and the FO was none-to-happy about that. We shall see.

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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
Thomas is with Corbett as someone who has to show something now ... 2nd round picks should be impacting the team by now


I believe Thomas was a 3rd rd. pick, just sayin'


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OMG the legendary Seth Devalve got released.
Could never understand the hype he got to begin with.


I don't see as much "hype" as I do patience. 4th Rd pick who is a very athletic, large man...who just finished his 3rd yr...but has had issues with the 4th ...ability.

I'm not surprised that he is gone...but I am surprised at who essentially won his spot.

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I thought he was late 2nd rounder? Not sure either way lol
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Thomas is with Corbett as someone who has to show something now ... 2nd round picks should be impacting the team by now


I believe Thomas was a 3rd rd. pick, just sayin'


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Thomas is with Corbett as someone who has to show something now ... 2nd round picks should be impacting the team by now


I believe Thomas was a 3rd rd. pick, just sayin'


Yep...3rd Rd pick...seemed a little (or a lot) early though...just like with Corbett.

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Thanks, my mistake ... but yes, still early


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Thank God I don't have to drive up to Berea and knock a few heads together a couple of times. I wasn't looking forward to getting arrested.


On a serious note, some things are so obvious it starts to get scary reading the board when people say stick with the proven or end the experiment.

This guy is going to be a pro bowl kicker.....maybe even this year.


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I'm disappointed that Braxton Miller didn't make it, but I don't know anything about Taywan Taylor except what I read here today. Hope he can catch the ball.

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That’s a major upset.


It is, yet I am not surprised.


If you are looking at it as a long term play Gillan makes a lot of sense.


After watching the kid, in no way we could cut him. You just can't cut a guy with a Ray Guy leg.

I would have been really bummed, more like ticked had it gone any other way, and I have lived in Tennessee for over 40 years, my wife is a Tennessee grad. I have a lot of respect for the name Colquitt.

You just can't cut a guy who can air it out nearly 70 yards.


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Anthony Zettel was signed for Carl Nassib.


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Colquit is one of the best, I would be surprised if they didn't trade him instead of just cut him.

The guys on CBD are going to be pissed.

Money move.




It isn't a money move. Punters don't make all that much to begin with.


It's about a guy who can kick the air out of the ball.


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Yea, but can he do this?!



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Damn that was awesome! Didn't we also do one of those music city miracle things when returning a punt in that game?


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Anthony Zettel was signed for Carl Nassib.


Much needed upgrade over good ol' Carrrllllll. lol.

Between Zettel or Thomas, I think its a wash. I don't think Thomas will see the field much.


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