- The squatting in NCAA and NFL weight rooms never ceases to amaze me, and not in a good way. It's the classic 'add weight, reduce depth' thing (all while looking at the ceiling, putting the neck/cervical spine in hyperextension) that you expect to see in a high school weight room. Where is the strength and conditioning coach at and why is he letting the players squat like that?
A daughter of a good friend works at an eatery off Rockside Road. Myles came in and she served him. She said he was the nicest, most impressive specimen of a man she'd ever seen or met. Absolutely ZERO air cockiness or celebrity in him.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Whatever it was, it was about three times more than I can
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
A daughter of a good friend works at an eatery off Rockside Road. Myles came in and she served him. She said he was the nicest, most impressive specimen of a man she'd ever seen or met. Absolutely ZERO air cockiness or celebrity in him.
two years ago after last game of his rookie year, I rode the same tram to airport as he and his dad. Myles had a guitar with him..we ended up on the same elevator alone with his dad and my fam. I don't get star struck and I don't go gaga over meeting professional athelete(have met several). I usually let them alone or just shake their hands and say I enjoy watching you. Don't go after autographs. Most are appreciative. That being said MG was so humble and laid back, shook my hand and said he appreciated the fans here that they made him feel extremely welcome. Genuine nice guy
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
How much was MG benching in that video? It looked to me about 400 but I wasn't sure.
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Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
How much was MG benching in that video? It looked to me about 400 but I wasn't sure.
Don't get caught up in those numbers at 47 years old I was working out and doing three sets of 25 at 225 pounds in the bench press. Thats why I laugh when guys who weigh 300 pounds can't even do one set of 25 at the combine. I could however never measure up to the big guys of both sides of the line even when I could out bench press them by a mile.
A daughter of a good friend works at an eatery off Rockside Road. Myles came in and she served him. She said he was the nicest, most impressive specimen of a man she'd ever seen or met. Absolutely ZERO air cockiness or celebrity in him.
I believe this story. Does anyone remember the segment on Hard Knocks where Myles was trying to help Nate Orchard? He is class personified.
I was referring more to his form than the weight.His upper body is way too far forward placing alot of strain on his lower back. As I've gotten older I've moved into the lower weight more reps camp,volume training.Less injuries but the results are similar. As a matter of fact,I was doing the Bulgarian Method for quite some time,pure torture.But if those Godless Commies can do it,so can I.
CLEVELAND — Myles Garrett has been a different player through the first nine practices of training camp. He’s made life miserable for the offensive tackles and should pay rent for all the time he’s spent in the backfield.
He looks faster, more explosive, more consistent and more motivated.
There’s a reason.
The defensive end’s 6-foot-4 frame got even more chiseled during the offseason, as he dropped 10 pounds to 262, the lowest weight of his three-year career.
“I’m feeling lighter on my toes and a little bit faster, fast like I was in college,” Garrett said Saturday after dominating yet again in the Orange & Brown Scrimmage at FirstEnergy Stadium. “I just felt like I needed my old speed back and I just tried to keep the strength that I had the last two years and see if I could combine that and see if there’d be a frightening mix.”
Speed and scary go together for Garrett. He said he ran a 4.4-second 40-yard dash at Texas A&M while weighing 252 as a freshman and to begin his sophomore year. He won’t go that low again but said 262 feels right as he thinks about longevity for his career.
“So that was something I’ve been looking at,” he said. “LeBron and his kale smoothies and all that, it’s just taking care of your body and making sure you’re playing at the weight that’s most comfortable to you. And 272, there were a lot of parts of the season uncomfortable for me.
“Best I’ve felt in a very long time. Just trying to keep that same health throughout the duration of the season.”
Garrett, who has aspirations of a 20-sack season and Defensive Player of the Year honors, said the Browns trusted him to do what he felt was best.
“They believed it would be something that would be good for me and beneficial to my game and we’d just kind of see what I could do with it,” he said. “If I came out here and I looked sluggish or I didn’t look as strong, they’d definitely tell me to gain that weight back, but since it’s been looking good, they’re going to keep on following my lead.”
Despite changing his diet to one big meal, two snacks and multiple waters a day, he said his power remains and he’ll still be able to set the edge against the run.
“Absolutely. I don’t think there’s any difference,” he said. “Speed helps get power. If you’re under somebody’s pads, you’re always going to win. I feel like I’m going to be low enough and I’m going to come hard enough that it’s going to be set every single time.”
Coach Freddie Kitchens has another reason for Garrett’s improved performance from a year ago.
“He is playing every down,” he said.
Garrett had 13.5 sacks and made the Pro Bowl last season but didn’t dominate down in and down out. His early status as camp MVP shows that has changed, too.
“He has been very consistent,” Kitchens said. “Myles has a high expectation of himself. We have just as high of expectation of him as he does himself. We are going to hold him to that, and he is going to hold himself to that.”
In the moment, quarterback Baker Mayfield might not appreciate Garrett in his face or breathing down his neck before he can reach the fifth step in his drop. But given time, Mayfield sees the benefit for himself and the team.
“Myles has been great,” he said. “Anytime you can compete against a guy like that, it challenges everyone in the offense. It challenges me to get the ball out quicker.
“Going up against a guy like that disrupts you so much, it is great practice for us.”
Garrett owned a team drill Saturday. He forced Mayfield to scramble with inside pressure and followed with a sack and then a pressure around the edge where he looked as if he could’ve taken the ball out of Mayfield’s right hand.
“I could have ripped it away and been in the end zone, but it’s part of playing the game inside the game,” Garrett said. “It’s just rushing right now, making your teammates better and getting that 5-on-5 and finishing avoiding the quarterback.”
He called himself “a different breed” of pass rusher and said left tackle Greg Robison won’t face anyone like him during the regular season. And he’s lighter despite having a chip on his shoulder after being ranked No. 49 on NFL Network’s Top 100 list.
“I’ll never be anything higher than No. 49 again unless I’m ending my career, then it’s time to get out of there,” Garrett said. “If I reach 49 again, it’s time to call it a day, but bigger and better things are ahead for all of us and myself.”
That’s one of the first things that Coach Kitchens ever said to us, when he took over the team. He said, “Listen, fellas — I’m just a big ol’ redneck from Alabama. Nobody ever figured I’d be here today as an NFL Head Coach. Nobody. I’m not supposed to be here. But you know what? I’m here.”
When people ask me what’s different about the Browns this year, what’s different about this city, and this football program — those words from Coach always come to my mind.
That mentality that Coach Kitchens brings….. I think we’ve all adopted it. It’s just who we are now, you know what I mean? We have a lot of players here who, in one way or another, they’ve been underdogs their whole career. Players who got to the league, or got to this franchise, and all they’ve known since then is losing. And our fans are the same way: We have these amazing fans — but a lot of them, they’ve never watched a Browns playoff game in their lives.
And I think in other years, maybe, that history has made people feel like there could never be a winner here. In other years, I feel like people would just be saying, you know, The Browns? Nah, they’re not going to win — because they never win. They’re not SUPPOSED to win.
The Browns aren’t supposed to be here.
And it just feels like starting last year, and into this summer, and now as we’re getting ready for Week 1 of this new season….. all of a sudden it’s like we took that saying and we flipped it. We’ve gone and taken what a Cleveland Browns team is “supposed” to do, in people’s minds, and we’ve changed that from this curse into this gift. Into an opportunity.
And that’s what our team has always been about, to me, for as long as I’ve been here.
Opportunity.
I saw it even when we went 0–16, in my rookie year. A lot of locker rooms, they go on a losing streak like that, and you’ll see it tear them apart. You’ll see a lot of giving up. You’ll see a lot of hopelessness. But our room, man, it just wasn’t like that at all. You’d see guys talking about a 50-50 ball they could have gotten, but they didn’t, and how can they fix that. You’d see guys talking about how many of our losses were by one score or less, and how we’re right there in these games. And to me that says a lot. You had this group of players that was going 0–16, and getting laughed at by the sports world. But in our locker room? It’s like those weren’t even 16 losses to us. They were just 16 missed opportunities.
And if you want to know why Baker clicked so fast with this team last year, I think that’s your answer there too.
Most people, they probably think that Baker’s “welcome to the team” game came in one of those early comeback wins he led us to. But it wasn’t one of those. Actually, it wasn’t even a win.
It was Week 13 against the Texans. We were 4–6–1. They were 8–3, on an eight-game winning streak. Huge game for us. Needed a win to stay in the playoff race.
And they came out and they just punched us in the mouth. Baker threw three picks in the first half, I think. We all played terrible. And we ended up down 23–0.
But then at halftime of that game….. I remember, I watched Baker closely. Wanted to see what he was about, you know — in a real moment of adversity. And here’s what I saw: He didn’t get mad. He didn’t get frustrated. He wasn’t yelling at himself, or trying to blame other guys, or making some big kind of scene. At the same time, though, he also wasn’t faking it. He wasn’t on some fake positive vibe. Nah.
He just….. didn’t say a word.
That’s right. Baker didn’t say one word, that whole halftime. He just kept to himself, minded his own business, and got ready to go back out there. And it’s hard to explain how that works — you really have to know football, and know this team. But just by Baker not saying a word? It was almost like he was refusing to acknowledge that that half had even happened. Like he had the power to just….. reject it or something. It was wild. And whatever it was — coming out for the second half, he had this team FIRED. UP.
Baker went for like 350 yards in that second half, we scored a couple of touchdowns, plus we kept them out of the end zone on D….. and it wasn’t nearly enough. We lost — bad. 29–13. But that was one of those losses where, even in the moment, you could see a silver lining. Because guys came away from it knowing Baker was for real. They came away from it knowing we had a quarterback.
And since then….. I guess things have been a little crazy.
We won three in a row off of that Texans game. Almost reached the playoffs. Made strong moves all spring and summer. Traded for Odell. Our offense is getting more and more experience in Coach’s system. Our younger vets like myself are a year older, smarter, better. The city is rocking. It’s an exciting time for this organization.
And it’s shaping up to be one of those special seasons.
But before any of that gets started, you know, I really just wanted to write this down, and say a quick thank you to Cleveland, and Browns fans everywhere. I know it hasn’t always been easy. I know there’s been 0–16, and 1–15, and some tough years on top of that. But y’all have stuck with us the entire way. Y’all are THE best fans in the whole NFL. And whatever happens from now….. we’re going to take it one game at a time, together.
Because we’re the Cleveland Browns — and we’re not supposed to be here.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
That’s one of the first things that Coach Kitchens ever said to us, when he took over the team. He said, “Listen, fellas — I’m just a big ol’ redneck from Alabama. Nobody ever figured I’d be here today as an NFL Head Coach. Nobody. I’m not supposed to be here. But you know what? I’m here.”
When people ask me what’s different about the Browns this year, what’s different about this city, and this football program — those words from Coach always come to my mind.
That mentality that Coach Kitchens brings….. I think we’ve all adopted it. It’s just who we are now, you know what I mean? We have a lot of players here who, in one way or another, they’ve been underdogs their whole career. Players who got to the league, or got to this franchise, and all they’ve known since then is losing. And our fans are the same way: We have these amazing fans — but a lot of them, they’ve never watched a Browns playoff game in their lives.
And I think in other years, maybe, that history has made people feel like there could never be a winner here. In other years, I feel like people would just be saying, you know, The Browns? Nah, they’re not going to win — because they never win. They’re not SUPPOSED to win.
The Browns aren’t supposed to be here.
And it just feels like starting last year, and into this summer, and now as we’re getting ready for Week 1 of this new season….. all of a sudden it’s like we took that saying and we flipped it. We’ve gone and taken what a Cleveland Browns team is “supposed” to do, in people’s minds, and we’ve changed that from this curse into this gift. Into an opportunity.
And that’s what our team has always been about, to me, for as long as I’ve been here.
Opportunity.
I saw it even when we went 0–16, in my rookie year. A lot of locker rooms, they go on a losing streak like that, and you’ll see it tear them apart. You’ll see a lot of giving up. You’ll see a lot of hopelessness. But our room, man, it just wasn’t like that at all. You’d see guys talking about a 50-50 ball they could have gotten, but they didn’t, and how can they fix that. You’d see guys talking about how many of our losses were by one score or less, and how we’re right there in these games. And to me that says a lot. You had this group of players that was going 0–16, and getting laughed at by the sports world. But in our locker room? It’s like those weren’t even 16 losses to us. They were just 16 missed opportunities.
And if you want to know why Baker clicked so fast with this team last year, I think that’s your answer there too.
Most people, they probably think that Baker’s “welcome to the team” game came in one of those early comeback wins he led us to. But it wasn’t one of those. Actually, it wasn’t even a win.
It was Week 13 against the Texans. We were 4–6–1. They were 8–3, on an eight-game winning streak. Huge game for us. Needed a win to stay in the playoff race.
And they came out and they just punched us in the mouth. Baker threw three picks in the first half, I think. We all played terrible. And we ended up down 23–0.
But then at halftime of that game….. I remember, I watched Baker closely. Wanted to see what he was about, you know — in a real moment of adversity. And here’s what I saw: He didn’t get mad. He didn’t get frustrated. He wasn’t yelling at himself, or trying to blame other guys, or making some big kind of scene. At the same time, though, he also wasn’t faking it. He wasn’t on some fake positive vibe. Nah.
He just….. didn’t say a word.
That’s right. Baker didn’t say one word, that whole halftime. He just kept to himself, minded his own business, and got ready to go back out there. And it’s hard to explain how that works — you really have to know football, and know this team. But just by Baker not saying a word? It was almost like he was refusing to acknowledge that that half had even happened. Like he had the power to just….. reject it or something. It was wild. And whatever it was — coming out for the second half, he had this team FIRED. UP.
Baker went for like 350 yards in that second half, we scored a couple of touchdowns, plus we kept them out of the end zone on D….. and it wasn’t nearly enough. We lost — bad. 29–13. But that was one of those losses where, even in the moment, you could see a silver lining. Because guys came away from it knowing Baker was for real. They came away from it knowing we had a quarterback.
And since then….. I guess things have been a little crazy.
We won three in a row off of that Texans game. Almost reached the playoffs. Made strong moves all spring and summer. Traded for Odell. Our offense is getting more and more experience in Coach’s system. Our younger vets like myself are a year older, smarter, better. The city is rocking. It’s an exciting time for this organization.
And it’s shaping up to be one of those special seasons.
But before any of that gets started, you know, I really just wanted to write this down, and say a quick thank you to Cleveland, and Browns fans everywhere. I know it hasn’t always been easy. I know there’s been 0–16, and 1–15, and some tough years on top of that. But y’all have stuck with us the entire way. Y’all are THE best fans in the whole NFL. And whatever happens from now….. we’re going to take it one game at a time, together.
Because we’re the Cleveland Browns — and we’re not supposed to be here.
I like reading that story about the Texans game ... I felt like we got momentum on our side that second half as well
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
I understand that he is a world class athlete,but too much weight and really bad form leads to injury.Who in the hell is running that gym.
FWIW: this isn't bad form, this is a Low-Bar Back Squat. Low-Bar has the bar sitting behind the shoulders, back of the deltoids. A low-bar squat engages the posterior chain (hamstrings, glutes, lower back) more, results in more torso lean due to the position of the load, but also enables you to move a bit more weight than the more traditional High-Bar position.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
I understand that he is a world class athlete,but too much weight and really bad form leads to injury.Who in the hell is running that gym.
FWIW: this isn't bad form, this is a Low-Bar Back Squat. Low-Bar has the bar sitting behind the shoulders, back of the deltoids. A low-bar squat engages the posterior chain (hamstrings, glutes, lower back) more, results in more torso lean due to the position of the load, but also enables you to move a bit more weight than the more traditional High-Bar position.
Ok... I wanted to complain about his form as well... but I held off to see if what he was doing was actually legit. I still have a hard time believing that moving that much weight with that much bending of the back is ok/intentional, but thank you anyway for giving me something to research.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
If you watch closely, you'll see that the back doesn't round/bend... that's where you get into dangerous form. He hinges at the hips and the shoulders stay back and engaged. If I had to question anything, I'd question the depth because he doesn't even come remotely close to hitting parallel, but without knowing the goal of that squat, I'm not going to take issue as there are valid reasons for partial squats.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
I understand that he is a world class athlete,but too much weight and really bad form leads to injury.Who in the hell is running that gym.
FWIW: this isn't bad form, this is a Low-Bar Back Squat. Low-Bar has the bar sitting behind the shoulders, back of the deltoids. A low-bar squat engages the posterior chain (hamstrings, glutes, lower back) more, results in more torso lean due to the position of the load, but also enables you to move a bit more weight than the more traditional High-Bar position.
Correct me if I am wrong but this is specifically to build explosive strength.
The weighted box jumps are definitely about developing explosiveness.
The low bar squats are more about targeting the muscles in the posterior chain a bit more. The movement with this kind of weight is really more about pure strength than explosive movement... though, the two do go hand-in-hand. I'd say, though, that this will lend itself more to that bull rush power than the fast-twitch explosion. Though, by being stronger, he will be able to be explosive with larger loads, so again, they go hand-in-hand - like stepping stones, grow one, then the other.
p.s. I'm happy to see that he is slowly climbing down from the box and isn't foolish enough to try "rebounding" or jumping back down with that extra weight. That's the sort of thing that blows out an Achilles real fast.
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Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
I appreciate you correcting me,not. I have been training on my own for quite some time,so I wasn't aware of this type of squat.It goes against all that I thought I knew.It does make sense though. I have seen people do that type of squat,hell I would just shake my head and mumble to myself "bad form". Except for that pretty little blonde,I even volunteered to watch her closely and correct any flaws I'd see.There were none.
During the pre-draft period the year when Myles came out, he made some quip about wishing the Cowboys would trade up and draft him. At the time I thought it was another example of a high caliber player not hiding their desire to be somewhere that wasn't Cleveland. Frankly, it got under my skin.
Now, this letter in the Player's Tribune has confirmed everything I've seen in his actions since he became a Brown. This dude is all in.
Myles, on the cusp of establishing himself as a generational player... he's all Cleveland.
I call him G-Rex, the predator at the top of the food chain. He'll hunt from Boston to Seattle and all points in-between.
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