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I'm not a homer. If you've got some video to post, then post it, and I'll comment on it.

I'm just sickened by AB already. What a diva. He and Belichick probably had this worked out after AB was traded to the Raiders. Ugh. At least he isn't eligible to play tomorrow night.

I agree totally with that Mom, the whole AB in LA thing seemed so fake from the start.

Is it too much to hope that AB manages t do what no team could, and implodes the Pats?

Seems to me the players in the NFL are just starting to do what NBA players have been doing the last few years; dictate where they want to play and not the other way around. This could get ugly. It already has in the NBA.

I was just saying this too ... it’s like the good players in the NBA/NFL have figured out ways to just circumvent the system when they’re unhappy

and this one from Homes:



If AB goes to NE and his string of erratic, irrational, and divisive behaviors continue, we can assume he really is suffering from a mental illness.

On the other hand, if AB goes to NE and doesn't make a lot of waves, it is probably safe to say that he orchestrated this entire thing and that he is almost certainly a very bad person.

If I'm the Raiders, I'm seriously considering taking AB to court with regard to California's privacy law and his recorded conversation with Gruden. I'd definitely have the legal team looking for signs of tampering/collusion during discovery.

Well.....I’m actually glad if that’s the case.

We can talk about players honoring contracts, but then we gotta talk about nfl teams doing the same thing. If they are allowed to cut, trade, whatever with players anytime they want, well guess what?

The players are gonna treat it like a business too.

I don't like the Raiders, but they got done dirty. They are trying to build something positive there and they had AB's back all off-season despite his many transgressions. He then pushes the envelope so far that they are pretty much forced to release him. That's lame.

And if you think about it, AB forced the Steelers' hand in pretty much the same manner. I am wondering if the dude is just evil. Eve brought up the narcissistic angle earlier. She could very well be correct.

That's a good point, Swish. I agree.

However, I would prefer dudes go about the business of switching teams like L. Bell did rather than the way AB did. Trashing your teammates, coaches, and FO dudes is a lame-ass way of doing "business."

jc -

This guy threw a coach off a hotel balcony. Could have killed someone. What if he had hurt a child. Sane people don't throw furniture off balconies, not even to get out of a contract. He never expressed any remorse for that either. The dude is not all there, and I have a hard time believing the behaviors that were documented were part of some master plan to get out of Oakland.

Belichick made it work with a murderer. They'll probably make it work for the year. Would be very surprised if it went beyond that, however.

Good points.

I agree with that, but then we have to ask ourselves this:

How else was he suppose to get away from the raiders? Remember, Le’Veon was on a FT I believe, and his own teammates started ripping him in public even though he said nothing bad about them. Bell missed a whole year.

Brown’s method, while nasty, is only gonna have him miss 1 game (I wish they would’ve let him play tonight lol). I mean I was personally offended when he called his boss cracker, you just CANT say that whatsoever. It’s racist and ruins teams. Especially the guy who gave you 30 mill guaranteed!!

But, AB’s (or maybe belichick’s) way worked. Think about ABs personality. As trash as it is, I think you and I understand from HIS perspective, why play for the team the steelers want me to play for, instead of the team I want to play for?

The Steelers sent him to a train wreck team on the super cheap. If teams can play games like that with contracts and such, then so can the players.

But the unfortunate reality is that in the nfl, players basically have to resort to this in order to have player mobility.

Maybe somebody way smarter than us can figure this out with the upcoming CBA bro. I don’t have the answers as to how this issue can be less painful moving forward, but while ABs antics were trashy and racist.....it worked.

I think we agree on the general principle. More power to the player. I just could never bring myself to treat people the way AB has. It's hard for me to get past that, bro.

I would like to see the players fight for more rights, money, and freedom in the next CBA........but, the NFL owners are a strong group who have whupped the players in every set of negotiations. The players have to think of creative ways to "give" in order to "get." Maybe an additional game or two would do the trick. Eliminate 2-4 preseason games, add 1-2 regular season games, and get a bigger slice of the pie?

Dear god! Was it Gruden?

I have to complement my fellow posters. Excellent discussion on the said topic with many good points being put forth. Whether I'm agreed with or not it's nice to hear all the opinions. I still think AB and his agent planned this!!! Especially knowing the reputation of the Pats organization and their close freindships

for the NFLPA to get what they want, its gonna have to be the extra games bro.

i think this preseason pretty much sealed that aspect too.

Mort says Dorsey checked in:

LOL Social media consultant?

It doesn’t shock me that Dorsey checked it out either

Wow .... billicheck offered the stilers a 1st for AB according to Mort ... and now he gets him for NOTHING ... only in patriotville ... DAMM IT!!!!

This really feels like tampering\collusion. If I were the commissioner I would investigate it immediately. It won't happen though because Goodell is incompetent.

Honestly, the Raiders dropped the ball here.

They should have simply deactivated Antonio Brown indefinitely and sent him home. they could have used "contract dispute and failure to pay fines" as the reason for deactivating him would legal under the CBA.

They never should have given Brown what he wanted by cutting him. By deactivating him he is no longer a distraction to the team, and the Raiders could have sat tight for a few weeks and someone would have traded for him. If not the Raiders would have been free to cut him at the end of the year. this would have ensured Brown played no where but for the Raiders in 2019.

Gruden & Mayock dropped the ball here. they could have simply deactivated him and sat on Brown and not a darn thing AB could do about it, someone would have given them a 2nd, 3rd or even a 4th rd pick for him. They at least would have gotten something instead of the nothing they got.

Glad this happened to them instead of the Browns for a change.

even in deactivation, him being on the roster most likely meant they have to pay him the 30 million.

the raiders pretty much had to release him.

Maybe if he hadn't signed with the Pats...

AB won't last long with the Pats. Belichick won't put up with any of his crap. A lot of these troubled players have ended up there in New England and while it has worked out occasionally Belichick has also cut a number of them at the first sign of trouble. AB is a massive head case. He really needs to seek some help. I don't see him straightening up and flying right so I don't expect him to last long under Belichick.

Too many coincidences to believe Brown to Patriots just "happened".


Suspicions grow that Antonio Brown to the Patriots didn’t happen out of the blue on Saturday

Posted by Mike Florio on September 8, 2019, 10:45 AM EDT

The Steelers were determined not to trade receiver Antonio Brown to the Patriots or to any other team in the AFC North. And now, of course, Antonio Brown plays for the Patriots.

Both Adam Schefter of ESPN and Mike Giardi of NFL Network report that the Patriots did indeed try to trade for Brown in March, but the Steelers resisted their overtures. Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Patriots actually offered a first-round pick for Brown.

While the only good news is that the Steelers won’t have to face Brown tonight in New England, the Patriots get a major boost. And they get Brown without giving up trade compensation, without paying Brown $30 million in guaranteed money, and with a potential compensatory draft pick in 2021, if Brown leaves in free agency after this season.

That guaranteed money Brown has lost in Oakland becomes the strongest argument against the notion that the trade to Oakland and inevitable release by the Raiders was part of a broader plan to get Brown to New England. Brown will get a $9 million signing bonus, a base salary close to the minimum for his level of service, and incentives worth another $5 million or so. That’s a far cry from $30 million.

But while it may not have been planned from the get-go, once the proverbial Rubicon was crossed in Oakland (as a league source told PFT, the fine letter from G.M. Mike Mayock was the tipping point), it’s fair to wonder whether things were said behind the scenes regarding hypothetical interest in a hypothetical acquisition of a hypothetical player who may be available, hypothetically. The fact that the deal came together so quickly fuels that speculation — especially given the financial commitment made by the Patriots.

Remember when everyone believed running back LeGarrette Blount misbehaved his way out of Pittsburgh, knowing that the Patriots would welcome him back? Remember when Blount was pressed on that subject and didn’t deny it? Those same suspicions are wafting now, and even though Brown won’t be on the field or on the sidelines tonight in New England, it gives an added flavor to one of the best rivalries in football.

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Report: Browns, Seahawks were among suitors for Brown
https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1828128

Antonio Brown garnered significant interest as a free agent after being released from the Oakland Raiders on Saturday.

Brown's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said there was a robust market for the four-time All-Pro receiver, despite his erratic behavior during a six-month stint with the Raiders, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports.

Among the teams showing interest were the Cleveland Browns and Seattle Seahawks, according to Mortensen. Though teams confirmed interest in the star receiver, other clubs ultimately believed a Brown-New England Patriots union was a "fait accompli."

The Patriots reportedly agreed to a one-year deal worth up to $15 million with Brown, which includes a $9-million signing bonus.

I figured the Seahawks would want him .. thought Houston would too. I’m a bit surprised we reached out honestly

I think Dorsey kicks every tire he can to make us better talentwise.

Well that lasted 2 seconds.

I am almost afraid to say this, but that women's account doesn't exactly ring true.

Taken the accusations seriously, believe the evidence.

Another issue for him ... whether it’s true or not of course (and let’s hope it isnt)

so does he get suspended while the lawsuit is going on or does he keep playing?

I think the NFL will let him play.

Yeah, no doubt they let him play .. until (if) evidence provides otherwise

Depends on what team he's on.