DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Drone strikes knock out half of Saudi oil capacity, 5 million barrels a day

Translation: somebody was not happy with the low prices of oil:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/14/business/saudi-oil-output-impacted-drone-attack/index.html

Abu Dhabi (CNN Business)Drone strikes on crucial Saudi Arabian oil facilities have disrupted about half of the kingdom's oil capacity, or 5% of the daily global oil supply, people with knowledge of Saudi's oil operations told CNN Business.

Yemen's Houthi rebels on Saturday took responsibility for the attacks, saying 10 drones targeted state-owned Saudi Aramco oil facilities in Abqaiq and Khurais, according to the Houthi-run Al-Masirah news agency.
Five million barrels per day of crude production have been impacted after fires raged at the sites, one of them the world's largest oil production facility, people with knowledge of the kingdom's operations said. The latest OPEC figures from August 2019 put the total Saudi production at 9.8 million barrels per day.
A source told CNN Business that Aramco "hopes to have that capacity restored within days."
The Saudi interior ministry confirmed the drone attacks caused fires at the two facilities. In a statement posted on Twitter, the ministry said the fires were under control and that authorities were investigating.
"Abqaiq is perhaps the most critical facility in the world for oil supply. Oil prices will jump on this attack," Jason Bordoff, founding director of the Center on Global Energy Policy at Columbia University, said in a statement.
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo pinned the attack directly on Iran, which backs the Houthi rebels. "Iran has now launched an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply. There is no evidence the attacks came from Yemen," he said on Twitter.
The development comes as Saudi Aramco takes steps to go public in what could be the world's biggest IPO. Aramco attracted huge interest with its debut international bond sale in April. It commissioned an independent audit of the kingdom's oil reserves and has started publishing earnings. Over the past two weeks, the kingdom has replaced its energy minister and the chairman of Aramco.
Saudi Arabia, the world's largest oil exporter, has cut back on production of crude and other energy products as part of an OPEC effort to boost prices. Saudi Arabia produces approximately 10% of the total global supply of 100 million barrels per day.
The International Energy Agency said on Saturday it was monitoring the situation in Saudi Arabia. "We are in contact with Saudi authorities as well as major producer and consumer nations. For now, markets are well supplied with ample commercial stocks," it said on Twitter.
If the disruption in Saudi Arabia is prolonged, "sanctioned Iran supplies are another source of potential additional oil," Bordoff said. "But [US President Donald] Trump has already shown he is willing to pursue a maximum pressure campaign even when oil prices spike. If anything, the risk of tit-for-tat regional escalation that pushes oil prices even higher has gone up significantly."
Oil prices fell on Friday, with Brent crude, the global price benchmark slipping 0.3% to close at $60.22 per barrel.

Sounds like something he would say. Even after someone else took responsibility for it, they have to find some way to beat the drums of war.

"Tehran is behind nearly 100 attacks on Saudi Arabia while [President Hassan] Rouhani and [Foreign Minister Mohammad] Zarif pretend to engage in diplomacy," Pompeo tweeted, referring to the nation's president and foreign affairs minister. " ... There is no evidence the attacks came from Yemen."

Iran-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen claimed responsibility for the attack hours before Pompeo's tweet. The world’s largest oil processing facility in Saudi Arabia and a major oil field were impacted, sparking huge fires at a vulnerable chokepoint for global energy supplies.

So now it wasn't Iran. Got it. You do know we backed Bin Laden at one time too, right?

There will never be peace in this region of the world.

Lindsey Graham Says U.S. Should Consider Iran Attack That Would 'Break Regime's Back'

https://news.yahoo.com/lindsey-graham-iran-attack-oil-refineries-saudi-arabia-000153398.html

Guess we all should’ve saw this coming. Smh.

Yeah, Saudi Arabia is filthy rich and buys more military weapons from us than anyone else. So we should start a war for them and Israel.

Because that's what this is all about really. Fighting a war for Israel.

No Pit it’s about spreading democracy... using bombs.

We should just stay out of it and let those two annihilate each other.

i agree, but the US seems to be hellbent on doing the bidding for the #1 terrorism sponsor in the world.

Since it seems it's Saudi Arabia and Israel that has so many issues with Iran, maybe they should learn to work together to defeat their common enemy.

I mean we managed to work with the Russians to defeat Germany in WW2.

I'm with you. We just need to stay out of it and quit banging the drums of war like Lindsey Graham is doing.

amen.

Tribal warfare is, has been, and (most probably) will always be the culture of the region. Every time we involve ourselves over there, we find ourselves in a rabbit hole we can't escape.

"War weary"... it's really a thing.

They all need US/Russian guns & bombs to do that.

[quote=PitDAWG]Yeah, Saudi Arabia is filthy rich and buys more military weapons from us than anyone else. So we should start a war for them and Israel.

Because that's what


I agree. Time to get it done once and for all.

Unless a greater power like the US, China, or Russia is willing to commit multiple state genocide, nothing will ever be resolved in the Middle East.

Agreed, never has been, never will be.

those are big comments from people who live in a country who has been in non stop warfare with somebody since WW2

Evidence indicates Iranian arms used in Saudi attack, say Saudis

-Coalition spokesman Colonel Turki al-Malki told a press conference in Riyadh that an investigation into Saturday’s strikes was still ongoing and authorities were trying to ascertain the launch location.

-He said authorities would reveal the location from where drones were launched at a future press briefing.

-Iran has dismissed as “unacceptable” U.S. accusations that Tehran was responsible for the assault on Saudi oil facilities that cut almost half of the kingdom’s production, or 5% of global oil supply.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/16/saudi-oil-attack-findings-show-iran-arms-used.html

can anybody explain why 40 is licking the Saudi's boots right now?

odd. he believes everything they tell him. he also believed they didnt kill that reporter too.

Everything is black and white with you isn't it?

Give me a run down of this no-stop war since 1945.

Actually just make it 1945 - 2001.. Since I will conceded 2001 to present.

WW2
Korean War
Vietnam War
Gulf War
OEF
OIF

and in between those with US involvement:

Cold war
Bay of pigs
Grenada
Arming the afghans against russia
Panama
Somalia
Libya
Yemen
Syria
Bosnia

regardless of the reasoning, the fact remains that we have been non stop sine ww2.

sorry that i mention facts and you can't handle it. you clearly dont know your own country's history.

i mean lol, you edited your post and still missed all of that. lol how you gonna post "1945-2001" as if the korean war and vietnam didn't happen.

jeez dude educate yourself.

First, don't be a dick.

2, you said "those are big comments from people who live in a country who has been in non stop warfare with somebody since WW2"

See I went all literal, black and white with what you type, not what I knew you meant.


And even in that list are only 3 wars, the rest are involvements, that , again black and white/literal, are not WARS.

stating facts isnt being a dick. its not my fault nor my problem that you dont know you're own country's history.

and we have been at non stop warfare, as demonstrated by the laundry list of conflicts that the US has either directly been apart of, or been supported and funded.

you just simply dont know what you're talking about right now. again, thats not being a dick, thats stating a fact.

i mean hell, when HAVENT we been in conflict?

1776
1812
civil war
the non stop crap with the natives
WW1

all this country knows is conflict. and it looks like the people in charge who closing align with your ideology are about to get us involved in yet another middle eastern conflict.

so yea, the middle east is a trainwreck.

and the US has been a big part of that trainwreck since........1953.

lets see if you know your history. what happened in 1953, FloridaFan?

Warfare != conflict.

You don't seem to want to separate the 2.

1953 was the Iranian Coup which was the real crux of US involvement in the Middle East, which has continued to plague us. I assume this is what you're referring to.


But I am not talking about conflicts, disagreements.

But I am done with this conversation, because you are way to powerful and all knowing, and I just don't have time to fight over something so insignificant with you, when you can't see the the difference between your concept of 'constant warfare' and 3000+ years of middle east fighting

translation: i cant really dont know what im talking about so rather try and take a shot and bounce.

learn your history. its not hard.

Can you enlighten me as to which are conflicts/disagreements and which are wars? Because if someone is shooting at me, there seems to be no difference.

there isnt much difference..

if you're in a war, you've been in a conflict.

if you're in a conflict, its not necessarily a war. and i agree, if it involves people shooting at other people, and atleast one of those involves an official government, then the difference between the two words matter little in the grand scheme of things.

it still involved us troops and/or military support (drones, weapons, equipment).

Calling it a conflict is just a propaganda term the government uses to try and convince people it's not a real war.

That's actually what they called the Korean War for a very long time. The Korean Conflict.

Anyone who served over there can tell you it was a war.

Vietnam was called a Police Action.

The friends I had who were killed in that Police Action are just dead as those killed in the World Wars.

I see no difference.
I miss them.

This will blow you away, bro.

Fun Fact: The United States of America is 239 years old. It has been at war for 222 of those years.

I had no idea about that stat yet sadly, at the same time it doesn't surprise me at all. I have never deceived myself about who we are as a nation.

Clem: its why i tell my boys we are the new warrior race of the planet. we love being in combat or supporting countries who are about to enter it.

Pit: wars/conflicts/whatever.

its all combat in my eyes.

and surprise surprise - oil companies and government contracting industries like Raytheon are all up in the stock market today.

While you are apologizing for us as a Nation I will remind you we would not be a Nation if not for the war with Great Britain.

there are wars that were inevitable.

but you can look at the list i posted and see that some of them didnt need us involved in it.

like the dumbass coup we tried in 1953 in iran, and then the iran contra in the 1980's.

or somalia. etc etc

Yes some wars are needed. Then some are not. I didn't apologize to anyone. I just know who we are. Wars are to protect yourself. Not to try and control the globe. Those are two very different things.

I'll take just the last two wars in the middle east as examples. The war in Afghanistan? Needed.

Iraq? Not needed.

A lot of innocent civilians died in Iraq with no just reason. The fact that you would never apologize for that I think speaks much louder than the fact that I would.

Just watched the Presidents presser and it seems we know who launched those drones and where they came from.

The Saudi's are very angry and want to do something about it.

He did not want to go into details but said the Sec. of State was in Saudi and they would have an announcement in the very near future.

trump said he doesnt want war but we're prepared to.

why the hell would we go to war over this? doing the saudi's bidding once again. smh.

No, Trump doesn't want war, he wants negotiations but the Saudi's were attacked and it is within their right to respond.

That's probably why they were here in Washington today, finding out what they can do without interfering with the US.

What would John McCain do?

So we had 15 years of peace. That's more than the middle east, I stand by my statement.