DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Dolphins give Minkah Fitzpatrick permission to seek trade

I haven't been paying attention but,
I thought it the point was to Win the Super Bowl, or die trying.

Have you been watching the Browns the past few years?

Not even us?

The problem is we didn't have that plan until a few years ago. Then we acquired multiple picks that Dorsey was able to build his team.

Saw some of Fitzpatrick playing today, and I was not impressed.

Browns never tanked, but watch this can of worms, our head coach just wasn't very good.

We had plenty of high first round picks the last 20 years. And we had lots of FOs who claimed to have a plan.

We just got lucky that Dorsey came here and had the cap space and picks for him to work with. It was a perfect storm.

What are you trying to say.

Are you trying to say the Browns have not been trying to win the Super Bowl but rather stockpile draft picks, as if that was the whole point?

Of Course I've been watching the Browns, you know I have, you know we all have.

I'll say it again, The point is to win the Super Bowl.

We have a real opportunity for the first time in years to go along with a real proven football guy who judges players better than we have for quite some time. I just hope it doesn't devolve into another blown opportunity looking back at this season. We are not in as solid and as good a place as we should be and need to be.

As a fan, I am not enjoying game day yet. Maybe it starts tonight if we can unleash the Elf and get it done on the field. Scottish Hammer: Kick the divil outta the ball! HammerTime!

J/c

Reading Steelers fans thoughts this morning, a lot of them wanna trade for FItzpatrick to start opposite Haden.

I personally wouldn’t if it takes a 1st round (plus) ... but then again, I haven’t watched him all that much ... I could never willingly watch a Dolphins game at this point lol

Except that we did. We know this from that "Haslam is bad" article from ESPN that came out (IIRC) around the beginning of this past offseason.

ummm see the Browns a few years ago.

We tanked just as hard.

We tanked but the Dolphins are taking it to a whole ‘nother level. We didn’t trade Joe Thomas and he was near the end of his career. The Dolphins are trading all their players even if they’re on their rookie contract.

Agreed. Miami is tanking on a completely different level by acquiring picks through trades of existing talent. We accumulated picks via trading back several times in the draft...and the rare Osweiler deal.

The end result is essentially the same (more early round picks) but the way getting there is different.

The Dolphins are ignoring one of the first steps in what we did: identify your young talent and keep it, then trade away anyone that isn't in your long term plans for future picks.

They're just simply having a fire sale and Everything Must Go!

And if you can't trade them, cut them because they are drastically overpaid and see what you have with the young players while you build your cap space.

I think Miami will be "seeing what they have now" but much of our moves happened early in the offseason--not a couple weeks before the season and into it.

Just seems like weird timing for their recent moves.

Yep ......

Miami Dolphins: Everything must go! No reasonable offer refused! All sales final!

He stunk. And so did the team he was given to work with. Neither the HC nor the de facto GM have any excuse for their performance.

Yet one did make excuses....on the national circuit, no less.

The other did exactly what he was supposed to do.

Now would be an ideal time to play that video you always do.

In 2016 here are the QB's who took snaps at some point during the season....

Cody Kessler, Kevin Hogan, Josh McCown, Robert Griffin III, Terrelle Pryor, and “Clipboard Jesus” Charlie Whitehurst.

I rest my case.

That doesn't change the results.

It's odd. We have a lot of people on the team that run their mouth. For some of them excuses are made. For others not so much.

Rest your case??

Again you said nothing.

Are you trying to say the Browns were not trying to win the Super Bowl in 2016??
IF so then Come out and Say it!

I'm beginning to think you weren't being sarcastic earlier...

Yeah, it seems he actually believes that the powers that be tried to put a competitive roster on the field. There's nothing that can be said to help at that point.

I'll repeat something that I stated earlier in this thread. On the off chance that people don't realize that we were tanking over (at least) the 2 years prior to Dorsey's arrival, that ESPN article that talked about the turmoil going on due to Haslam's meddling explicitly stated that we were accumulating draft picks and young talent, sacrificing short term wins to build up a longer term talent base. I remember because the line went something like, "the plan required a strong stomach to handle losing over the first few years".

I'll predict the Chargers get Fitzpatrick. They've been ravaged with injuries in their secondary and they need to make a run with Rivers, who can't play forever.

See posts above.

Please, the Browns let all of their good players walk and started RG3 and Deshone Kizer.

Not like the Dolphins fire sale lil fella.

Do the Steelers know they just lost Roethlisberger?

And they’re going to have more with trade downs.

Dolphins have tanked the tankiest

The Steelers are 0-2 and playing with their backup QB who has never played before. The Steelers might’ve just traded away a top ten pick.

Hope Dolphins have a decent scout team/gm, because a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Just saying.

I hate that an Alabama player goes to the Steelers!

Hate!

Hate to see the Steelers acquire talent, but better Minkah than Jalen Ramsey. ANd now the Steelers don't have a 1st next year.

I doubt that they will be picking in the top 10. They played two very good teams. Fitz was picked at number 11 overall. I don't see this as a bad trade for the Steelers unless they play him out of position.

I don't recall too many GMs trading away a player they drafted in the first round the previous year. We didn't do it. The Cardinals did it with Rosen, but that's a little different. This is a stud defensive player you can use to build your team.

Just bizarre.