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I was simply pointing out that he gave one reason on Monday and another reason on Tuesday.

i wish the Dems would work as hard for America as they do trying to scrw Trump.

i wish trump worked as hard for america as he did his reality tv show.

lol jesus. stupid watergate

There's only one problem with your ramble.

The senate has only taken 18 measures to the floor for debate. He has refused to take many things both parties tend to agree upon in one form or another to the floor. Some of those things include but are not limited to, the high cost of prescription drugs, a broken immigration system, crumbling infrastructure and election security.

It's not that the house isn't putting things forth to the senate, it's that McConnell refuses to address any of those things in the senate.

Your finger pointing does not hold water.

j/c

For anyone that wants to read. It's from The Hill. I don't know if that's a biased place or not. But, I have to wonder here if the Dem's didn't create an issue that may hurt them?

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/...Z1AoDFhEmQOL81Q

There's a whole lot of info on Biden in there, and his son, and money, etc. I know it's from April of this year.

For anyone interested in some behind the scenes info, read it.

Read Trump's phone conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky

UNCLASSIFIED
Declassified by order of the President
September 24, 2019

MEMORANDUM OF TELEPHONE CONVERSATION
SUBJECT: Telephone Conversation with President Zelenskyy of Ukraine
Participants: President Zelenskyy of Ukraine

Notetakers: The White House Situation Room
Date, Time July 25, 2019, 9:03-9:33 am EDT
and Place: Residence

The President: Congratulations on a great victory. We all watched from the United States and you did a terrific job. The way you came from behind, somebody who wasn't given much of a chance, and you ended up winning easily. It's a fantastic achievement. Congratulations.

President Zelenskyy: You are absolutely right Mr. President. We did win big and we worked hard for this. We worked a lot but I would like to confess to you that I had an opportunity to learn from you. We used quite a few of your skills and knowledge and were able to use it as an example for our elections and yes it is true that these were unique elections. We were in a unique situation that we were able to achieve a unique success. I'm able to tell you the following; the first time you called me to congratulate me when I won my presidential election, and the second time you are now calling me when my party won the parliamentary election. I think I should run more often so you can call me more often and we can talk over the phone more often.

The President: (laughter) That's a very good idea. I think your country is very happy about that.

President Zelenskyy: Well yes, to tell you the truth, we are trying to work hard because we wanted to drain the swamp here in our country. We brought in many many new people. Not the old politicians, not the typical politicians, because we want to have a new format and a new type of government. You are a great teacher for us and in that.
The President: Well it is very nice of you to say that. I will say that we do a lot for Ukraine. We spend a lot of effort and a lot of time. Much more than the European countries are doing and they should be helping you more than they are. Germany does almost nothing for you. All they do is talk and I think it's something that you should really ask them about. When I was speaking to Angela Merkel she talks Ukraine, but she ·doesn't do anything. A lot of the European countries are the same way so I think it's something you want to look at but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine. I wouldn't say that it's reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not good but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine.

President Zelenskyy: Yes you are absolutely right. Not only 100%, but actually 1000% and I can tell you the following; I did talk to Angela Merkel and I did meet with her I also met and talked with Macron and I told them that they are not doing quite as much as they need to be doing on the issues with the sanctions. They are not enforcing the sanctions. They are not working as much as they should work for Ukraine. It turns out that even though logically, the European Union should be our biggest partner but technically the United States is a much bigger partner than the European Union and I'm very grateful to you for that because the United States is doing quite a lot for Ukraine. Much more than the European Union especially when we are talking about sanctions against the Russian Federation. I would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost. ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes.

The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible.

President Zelenskyy: Yes it is very important for me and everything that you just mentioned earlier. For me as a President, it is very important and we are open for any future cooperation. We are ready to open a new page on cooperation in relations between the United States and Ukraine. For that purpose, I just recalled our ambassador from United States and he will be replaced by a very competent and very experienced ambassador who will work hard on making sure that our two nations are getting closer. I would also like and hope to see him having your trust and your confidence and have personal relations with you so we can cooperate even more so. I will personally tell you that one of my assistants spoke with Mr. Giuliani just recently and we are hoping very much that Mr. Giuliani will be able to travel to Ukraine and we will meet once he comes to Ukraine. I just wanted to assure you once again that you have nobody but friends around us. I will make sure that I surround myself with the best and most experienced people. I also wanted to tell you that we are friends. We are great friends and you Mr. President have friends in our country so we can continue our strategic partnership. I also plan to surround myself with great people and in addition to that investigation, I guarantee as the President of Ukraine that all the investigations will be done openly and candidly.. That I can assure you.

The President: Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.

President Zelenskyy: I wanted to tell you about the prosecutor. First of all, I understand and I'm knowledgeable about the situation. Since we have won the absolute majority in our Parliament, the next prosecutor general will be 100% my person, my candidate, who will be approved, by the parliament and will start as a new prosecutor in September. He or she will look into the situation, specifically to the company that you mentioned in this issue. The issue of the investigation of the case is actually the issue of making sure to restore the honesty so we will take care of that and will work on the investigation of the case. On top of that, I would kindly ask you if you have any additional information that you can provide to us, it would be very helpful for the investigation to make sure that we administer justice in our country with regard to the Ambassador to the United States from Ukraine as far as I recall her name was Ivanovich. It was great that you were the first one who told me that she was a bad ambassador because I agree with you 100%. Her attitude towards me was far from the best as she admired the previous President and she was on his side. She would not accept me as a new President well enough.

The President: Well, she's going to go through some things. I will have Mr. Giuliani give you a call and I am also going to have Attorney General Barr call and we will get to the bottom of it. I'm sure you will figure it out. I heard the prosecutor was treated very badly and he was a very fair prosecutor so good luck with everything. Your economy is going to get better and better I predict. You have a lot of assets. It's a great country. I have many Ukrainian friends, their incredible people.

President Zelenskyy: I would like to tell you that I also have quite a few Ukrainian friends that live in the United States. Actually last time I traveled to the United States, I stayed in New York near Central Park and I stayed at the Trump Tower. I will talk to them and I hope to see them again in the future. I also wanted to thank you for your invitation to visit the United States, specifically Washington DC. On the other hand, I also want to ensure you that we will be very serious about the case and will work on the investigation. As to the economy, there is much potential for our two countries and one of the issues that is very important for Ukraine is energy independence. I believe we can be very successful and cooperating on energy independence with United States. We are already working on cooperation. We are buying American oil but I am very hopeful for a future meeting. We will have more time and more opportunities to discuss these opportunities and get to know each other better. I would like to thank you very much for your support.

The President: Good. Well, thank you very much and I appreciate that. I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call. Thank you. Whenever you would like to come to the White House, feel free to call. Give us a date and we'll work that out. I look forward to seeing you.
President Zelenskyy: Thank you very much. I would be very happy to come and would be happy to meet with you personally and get to know you better. I am looking forward to our meeting and I also would like to invite you to visit Ukraine and come to the city of Kyiv which is a beautiful city. We have a beautiful country which would welcome you. On the other hand, I believe that on September 1 we will be in Poland and we can meet in Poland hopefully. After that, it might be a very good idea for you to travel to Ukraine. We can either take my plane and go to Ukraine or we can take your plane, which is probably much better than mine.
The President: Okay, we can work that out. I look forward to seeing you in Washington and maybe in Poland because I think we are going to be there at that time.

President Zelenskyy: Thank you very much Mr. President.

The President: Congratulations on a fantastic job you've done. The whole world was watching. I'm not sure it was so much of an upset but congratulations.

President Zelenskyy: Thank you Mr. President bye-bye.
- - End of conversation - -

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/...o-st=1569439925

OMFG... the pos potus is ranting like a lunatic live right now.

Melt down...lol

This should help all the Trump supporter on here get past the denial stage:

Fox's Napolitano: Trump already confessed to a crime

udge Andrew Napolitano, Fox News's senior judicial analyst, told Fox News host Shepard Smith Tuesday night that President Trump committed a crime when he admitted pushing Ukrainian government leaders to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden's son Hunter Biden.

"It is a crime for the president to solicit aid for his campaign from a foreign government," Napolitano told Smith.

Not long after Napolitano said his piece, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) called for the start of an official impeachment inquiry at a press conference Tuesday evening.

"The president must be held accountable," Pelosi said in the press conference. "No one is above the law."

Wednesday, the Trump administration, as promised by Trump through a tweet Tuesday afternoon, released the transcript of his conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, although many Democrats have called for the entire whistleblower report on the conversation be released as well.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administrat...ssed-to-a-crime

Duty, all partisan BS aside, you served and took the same oath I did, Swish did, and every American that has ever served in our military did. So when the President does something so egregious and corrupt, we all need to put country first and hold him accountable.

So, The Hill IS an okay source?

Absolutely, all the facts should come out. But the allegations against Biden have already been looked into by the press and the Ukrainians. So I doubt there is much there. I think Trump has screwed himself, but we are talking about Trump so we will see.

Barr is implicated! He is the DOJ until he's no longer the AG! This carries no weight or legitimacy as a fact, excuse, or formal finding.

No idea what the hell that is supposed to mean. I feel for you bro. Sad.

You libs amaze me. You seriously need psychological help.

Since you LOST the 2016 election and your FAILED Trump/Russia Coup attempt, you are searching every day for another way to get Trump.

You listen to your FAKE Media brainwashing you and just run with it without questioning the validity of what they are telling you.

You are all giddy that you can get rid of your boogie man.

How you all yearn for Trump to get impeached...Yippie Yippie!!

You can't win in 2020 and you are doing all you can to make sure The Donald is taken out by another Coup attempt aided by your Fake News media.

As with the fake Trump Dossier, the fake Russia allegations, here we have another unsubstantiated allegation.

The REAL CRIMINAL is Joe Biden. I'm afraid the real scoop is Ole plagiarising Joe threatening Ukraine to aid his son's business interests.

Sorry to tell ya...Trump isn't going anywhere for another 4+ years.

Please get your mental counseling appointments early and often.

Every investigation until now has been started and led by a republican.

But please, continue on with your fake outrage.

Not even close.

I hope all the facts come out and you are able to understand them. If Trump is proven innocent, not just acquitted by GOP the Senate but actually proven innocent, then you might be right about 2020. But right now, he looks guilty as hell and you look like you're in denial.

It's been "impeach" since day 1. How's that worked out for the dem's so far?

You are like 0-100 on impeachment claims. Maybe this one will be different. As a fellow human being, a small, tiny part of me hopes you are right - for your sake. It must suck to be wrong over and over and over and over and over.

I do have to wonder, however, the the DNC has seen the writing on the wall and realized Biden isn't going to win, so this info was put out in an effort to drown him out.

Let's face it, the stuff I posted makes Biden look bad - very bad. This will, contrary to popular dem belief, help trump.

Unless they can absolutely nail him, this is yet again a dog chasing its tail.

Sucks to be a dem - having failed over and over. First mistake was running hillary, second mistake was covering up the hillary and dnc screwing over Bernie in the last election.

I have a hunch this whole impeachment thing, with the info on biden, is a literal "let's throw him to the trash so warren has a chance" kind of thing.

It may work............but if trump is NOT impeached, it will blow up in the dem's face.

They've been investigating him for 3 years!!!!!!!

Well if they end up not impeaching him this time you can keep brow beating me with that, else you will need new material. I love how outraged you are by what Trump did btw, very telling.

In case all the GOPer Trump supporters are missing this fact, Trump and Giuliani have admitted to this stuff already, they don't seem to understand the law. And it's looking like Barr was in it up to his neck too. So y'all should save your dem bashing and pro Trump attacks about no facts for fools who will believe them.

Dude, I am so NOT outraged. You've been, and the libs/dems have been so obsessed with impeachment for 3 years......investigation after investigation after investigation...............and you still can't get they guy you hate. The guy that beat hillary.


At this point, I just laugh. It's pathetic how hard the left has tried, and failed. Over and over and over.

Makes me glad I'm not a democrat, because I hate losing over and over and over.

i know you aint talking about someone obsessing over anything.

especially since every single person on this board is well aware of the fact that if you replace anything trump has done with the name "hillary", you would be singing a COMPLETELY different tune.

Weird, isn't it, you talking about hillary.

only because you brought her up first.

And you had her the victor months before the election.

well she was, in the popular vote.

luckily for you, the system put your draft dodging boy in. but that has ZERO to do with whats happening now.

Bro that's all he's got. It's sad really.

i dont get it. its like somehow winning an election means you're clear from any wrong doing for the next 4 years.

Like Hillary if she won?

One of the Greatest Criminals in US History...along with Billy of course.

why would hillary be clear from wrongdoing if she won?

bro your comments are making a lick of sense. and why are you liking your own post?

Nah. Not at all.

Not at all. You guys have spent 3 years going after him, and you have?>

A democrat certainly doesn't make a lick of sense.

Hillary, a clear criminal, would not have been touched by the swamp if she were elected unlike the Trump Coup by you and your henchmen.

P.S. I love my posts...I wish there was a love post button.

why? you're telling me an all republican house and senate wouldnt be investigating hillary non stop?

we really going with that narrative?

Another Manufactured Scandal by the loony left.

a democratic controlled house.

GOP senator on whistleblower complaint: 'There's obviously lots that's very troubling there'

Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) said Wednesday that a whistleblower complaint concerning a call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky contained “lots that’s very troubling,” warning his GOP colleagues not to dismiss it.

“Republicans ought not to be rushing to circle the wagons to say there’s no there there when there’s obviously lots that’s very troubling there,” Sasse said after reviewing the complaint, according to an NBC News reporter. “The administration ought not be attacking the whistleblower as some talking points suggest they plan to do.”

However, Sasse also castigated the media and House Democrats, who have announced an impeachment inquiry based on the whistleblower complaint, saying, “Democrats ought not to be using the word impeach before they have the whistleblower complaint or before they read any of the transcript.”

“The media humbly should not pretend that this story is about something that’s going to be resolved in the next two hours,” he added. “Done right with lots of deliberation, this is going to take a lot of time, but there’s obviously some really troubling things here.”

Sasse, who is up for reelection in 2020, was a frequent critic of Trump earlier in his administration but has scaled back his criticism in recent months. Trump, who has frequently declined to endorse Republican incumbents he perceives as antagonizing him or endorsed their opponents, tweeted that Sasse had his endorsement in early September.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4631...lots-thats-very

Trump encourages questions to Pence about his own Ukraine calls

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/25/trump-pence-ukraine-phone-calls-1512771

lmfao yo conservatives, why your boy tossing Pence under the bus now?

Just saw that. lmao