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I'm sure many have alluded it to it...I shut the game off with 11 minutes left...obviously I missed some stuff.

-How in the world do we score only 3 points with this supposed deadly O? Soccer teams fair better with points than we do.

-We seemed to be out hustled and timid-not a good combo by any means

-Chad Thomas and Lawerence flashed more than Sheldon Richardson and Vernon...considering what it took to get those guys, thats not a good look.

-Myles Garrett had a sack, but was pushed around all game...how come noone was able to feast off SF's back-up LT?

-Garrett's ceiling is more of Simeon Rice, than the Reggie White many make him to be...regardless he's our best pass rusher.

-Our interior was quiet, I saw Obi flash once or twice

-TJ Carrie seemed to be picked on

-Eric Murray seemed invisible

-Why was Lesean McCoy returning a punt for us...oh I mean Odell...carrying it like a loaf of bread, dude wasn't even surprised when he fumbled...smh

-Our OTs have issues with movement...both were graded in the 60s in overall ranking last year (horrible) Desmond Harrison was ranked in the 60s as well...He sucked, as does both Hubbard and Robinson.

-Do we have any idea how to chip block? None of the TE's seemed to hold their own...Hilliard can't block as a RB either

-Man Baker...I hate to say it but he plays awfully similiar to Manziel nowadays...holding that ball too long, scared, running around aimlessly, issues with seeing the field...It's really sad to watch anymore...Something major needs adjusted here today...if not, this team will ruin him.

-Calloway needs shipped off, lackadaisical in the truest form.

-I could be wrong, but it seems Mack Wilson was in on more plays...could be very wrong...Though I think he had a blunder on special teams.

-Randall seemed quiet and got beat more than usual.

-So ours TEs had zero catches, ditto with our #3 and #4 WRS...Have to spread the ball around

-On replays once again, I saw all of our routes downfield...Cannot make those routes continually when we are having severe issues with our Oline and QB.

-San Fran was significantly quicker...all of our players acted as if they each had a gallon of ice cream before kickoff.

-Totally got owned on MNF...I don't know whats going on with Freddie.

What a joke. You just failed at trying to call Device out for not getting on Baker and then say he is the one with the BS?

So what did the espn video show?? And was it before or after the game? Other than the captains meeting before the game when it why would those players meet to shake hands?

What is sad, is that a bunch of posters choose to believe Richard Sherman about what went down because it fits their narrative about Mayfield and his character "flaws". The guy screams and taunts the GOAT - classy and respectful. How about the Erin Andrews incident. He is a POS and always has been. I call BS with this "handshake" episode, too.

what Erin andrews situation? im tired of people acting like he was yelling at Erin.

the dude just made the play of the game to send his team to the SB, and was CLEARLY hyped up over Crabtree.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/01/erin-andrews-happy-richard-sherman-interview

this how Erin felt about it. sorry but you can't be out here talking about narratives and then turn around and pull that BS.

Good take, tru. Thanks for bringing it back to football.

Check out these charts from Next Gen Stats. They show all the passes from Baker and Jimmy G last night. Notice how Jimmy G used the entire field and how Baker heavily favored the right side. In fact, Baker did not complete a pass over the middle or on the left side that was past the LOS. Being a one-read qb who doesn't see the whole field is much easier to game plan against.

What's up man, long time no see.

I agree with you and I have no idea what happened. We had some rhythm, we got first downs, we scored points against the Ravens with a lot of dump offs, quick crossing routes, screens, etc... then we go up against a better DL and we just stop doing all of that. It worked.

Part of it is execution though... we had one 3rd and 3 I remember and we got 2 guys running across the middle from the same side of the field about 4 feet from each other... one of them is in the wrong place.

I am NOT a big fan of the no-back sets, under any circumstances really.. Chubb is a weapon from anywhere on the field and I HATE when they split him out.. that's not his game. Leave him in the backfield, at least make them consider the run, use him to chip (God knows the OL could use the help), use him to dump off, whatever.

Great post mac.....

The past week or 3 been thinking about starting a post titled......

HOW LONG DOES IT REALLY TAKE TO GO FROM RAGS TO RICHES?.

Imo still piecing it together man. Still piecing it together.

And we've got 8 pass attempts over 15 yards.. they barely have 2....

More noise form the peanut gallery I see......

I agree with you on that. I just about scream every time we go into a no-back set. Especially, when we're in a 3rd and short or goal line situation. At least make the Defense consider the run! You have a RB that averages nearly 5 yards a run, you're in a situation that favors a running play, and you have an O-Line that struggles to block a 3-man rush. So your plan is to motion the back outside, completely take the guesswork out of it for the defense, let the front four pin back their ears and ignore any running lanes, let the linebackers drop back directly into coverage, and hope that works out for you?

We just need to completely rip the no-back sets out of the playbook.

Vers, can you please expand on this instead of letting it drop. Wth happened?

And almost all our "short" routes were behind the line of scrimmage. Probably some sort of screen pass. It's like the coaching staff completely ignored what worked last week and decided that we could win with the vertical stuff that completely failed the first couple of week.

Vers posted that chart of his passes ... and that’s pretty damning. Teams are destroying him with his tendencies and weaknesses ... and he hasn’t really progressed and adjusted (hopefully he does)

In basketball we call it getting guys “off their spots” and it’s very effective to limit FG percentage

Thats something, as we all know....shorter the pass, normally the easier it is...Yet we seem be avoiding the short routes and short throws altogether...makes you scratch your head.

I think this might end the debate.

Thats a great break down, seemed like Baker is blind to that section of the field...I do remember he took that deep shot to OBJ on the left sideline, but beyond that...looks like he didn't even see that surface area of the field. He does, how many allude to...seem to lock his eyes on the right side of the field, and rolls that way out of the pocket...And he is NOT making any plays by doing that this year....very frustrating as we all expect better.

The biggest Baker pimp on the board who is trying to put the bulk of the blame on Freddie has nothing to laugh about.

How did you like the Bosa flag plant imitation? Not so funny when someone acts like the guy you pimp so hard, huh?



8-22, 2 int's, 2 fumbles.

Why did Freddie play so poorly?

finally, a good shot of it!

It's as if the coaching staff said since we played well last week we can go back to what we were trying to do at the beginning of the year.

It’s like the Zapruder film haha .. at least we know Baker wasn’t being a jerk here

You're so weird.

Are you suggesting that coaching isn't a problem? Are you suggesting Baker gave up 31 points?

Perhaps you should discuss and debate rather than aimlessly call out other posters for things you're trying to make up?

How can I take you seriously if you're telling me I didn't do the things you say when I clearly did (proof is on this board)?

Who are you? Richard Sherman?

I would never expect you to take me seriously. You've been living in fantasy land since April of 2018.

The play calling is a part of the problem, but that doesn't explain how a QB suddenly can't hit the broad side of a barn and coughs up the ball like he is allergic to it.

I wonder if Mike Silver will apologize for his article....

Thank you, Mr. Sherman.

So, the 49ers are a bunch of liars.

I guess I am the only one who doesnt care if Baker shakes someone's hand.
Even though he apparently did.

I am looking forward to new competant coaches next season.

Yep, I’m in agreement with you on that last point. We’ll give Freddie the year, but I think we’re way better off with an experienced HC and an innovative OC.

Looking back, hiring Arians and keeping Freddie as OC woulda been ideal

Dude, you're downplaying how badly Freddie is impacting things while overplaying things that happened.

One INT wasn't on him at all; the fumble, while stupid and inexcusable, wasn't "coughs up the ball like he is allergic to it".... you're a little too hyperbolic there.

Freddie has done very little to put Baker in a good position, and Baker has done very little at making the most of the situations he's put in.

They are both a crap-sandwich right now.

Hell, this entire team - coaches and players - is just a collection of Wannabes and Posers right now. lol, they're Kendall Jenner.... famous, but haven't done a damn thing to earn it.

He's got nothing, just likes to talk.

Why stop doing something he is so good at?

Maybe I'm making this up, but I could've sworn I saw their Dline get visibly relieved/excited when Chubb left the backfield. When he motions out, they reset and tense up.

So you're now on the 8-22 is a Freddie thing? Seriously?

Baker played like dog crap.

8-22

But what? Is he supposed to change the playcall? Or just roll with the failing crap he's being asked to work with? These comments are ridiculous when adding the word "but". What is a 2nd yr QB supposed to do with the play?

Same thing with these types of OL comments. "The OTs are bad and all and the line is getting abused...BUT...Baker has to do better." Wait...what? Is he supposed to block too?

Can Baker play better? Hell yes he can..and he HAS in the past. He isn't helping matters at times with his own issues...HOWEVER...there is NO WAY he could reach a level of "Better" that will overcome bad playcalling AND bad OL play.

Are you trying to wear that badge with honor?

8-22. Sounds like a lot of excuses to me.

I'm trying to point out that blaming the HC for crappy QB play isn't realistic. When your QB can't hit the broad side of a barn you need to stop making excuses for that.

Accuracy is a QB thing.

Like his signature.