This is a team still under construction. They are good enough to play above teams like the Jets and Ravens, but not yet good enough to play up to teams like SF and NE. We have the talent on paper, but the games are played on turf.
It takes time and togetherness to put out consistent product- time and togetherness we don't yet have. And you can't fast-track either of those things.
Each of these games is part of the learning curve all successful teams must go through. Road games, travel, time changes- all these are factors the can/could effect performance. Well-coached complete teams will be especially challenging this entire season. A few weeks ago, I stated that this team would look better in the 2nd half of the season, and not just because the schedule is a bit softer. I said it because I figured it would take at least 8 games to get the bugs worked out.
I think this is a 8-8 team at present. I hope to see them play up to 10-6, and take the AFCN, but the realist in me says to just sit back, relax and study this team's evolution throughout the 2019 campaign.
As sad as last night's performance was, it's still too early to hit the panic button. We're 5 games into a brand-new product. The rollout is bound to hit some bumps. Last night was a big speed bump. Keep driving to the destination.
8-22 falls on the QB. That's an accuracy issue. The QB is the one who throws the ball. I thought that was a rather basic concept. When your QB goes 8-22 you aren't going to win crap. I thought that was something everyone could understand. When your QB fumbles the ball twice, that's a ball control issue. Freddie isn't throwing or holding onto the ball. I didn't think it was all that confusing.
It must be.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
8-22 falls on the QB. That's an accuracy issue. The QB is the one who throws the ball. I thought that was a rather basic concept. When your QB goes 8-22 you aren't going to win crap. I thought that was something everyone could understand. When your QB fumbles the ball twice, that's a ball control issue. Freddie isn't throwing or holding onto the ball. I didn't think it was all that confusing.
It must be.
No, each one of those 14 failures gets evaluated for its own cause. You don't just blindly lump them all on one piece because it is convenient and fits your narrative.
Freddie is making bad calls. WRs are doing stupid things or just outright missing. The QB is screwing up. The OLine is screwing up. Their defense was just playing well.
It's all of the above, and no amount of wishing or trying to declare otherwise changes that in any way.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
This is a team still under construction. They are good enough to play above teams like the Jets and Ravens, but not yet good enough to play up to teams like SF and NE. We have the talent on paper, but the games are played on turf.
It takes time and togetherness to put out consistent product- time and togetherness we don't yet have. And you can't fast-track either of those things.
Each of these games is part of the learning curve all successful teams must go through. Road games, travel, time changes- all these are factors the can/could effect performance. Well-coached complete teams will be especially challenging this entire season. A few weeks ago, I stated that this team would look better in the 2nd half of the season, and not just because the schedule is a bit softer. I said it because I figured it would take at least 8 games to get the bugs worked out.
I think this is a 8-8 team at present. I hope to see them play up to 10-6, and take the AFCN, but the realist in me says to just sit back, relax and study this team's evolution throughout the 2019 campaign.
As sad as last night's performance was, it's still too early to hit the panic button. We're 5 games into a brand-new product. The rollout is bound to hit some bumps. Last night was a big speed bump. Keep driving to the destination.
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Yep...and now there is $.04 in the kitty.
Usually takes me until about Wed afternoon to find that peace though...I'll get there eventually. I predicted 8-8 from the start of training camp...so there's that.
Imagine if we started off with the Dolphins and the Cardinals and then Bengals and maybe Steelers and looked like world-beaters...only to get destroyed by the "good" teams on the schedule. Now THAT would have sucked even worse.
Hopefully we get or are-getting the kinks out in games we were likely to lose anyway...maybe that's part of FK's diabolical plan? I'm going with that one until Sunday afternoon anyway.
It's an old trick old timers use to get their team hyped..they lie, make up some kind of BS...Sherman used it against Baker and it worked on the 49ers like charm. Not only that, but just look at how many of our own Browns fans bought it, trying to blame Baker.
Everyone is upset, frustrated, and angry with this team....of course they did...its human nature...I personally didn't even care, I was more upset over the poor display of football vs a handshake lol
Key Takeaways from the San Francisco 49ers’ dominant 31-3 win over the Cleveland Browns
Baker has yet to rise in 2019 This was far and away the worst performance of Mayfield’s career. In Mayfield’s rookie campaign last season, he finished with seven game grades above 80.0. Through five weeks in 2019, he has zero.
In the blowout loss in the Bay, Mayfield had one big-time throw and three turnover-worthy plays (keep in mind, he had two interceptions in the box score, but only one of those was a turnover-worthy play: that red-zone interception should’ve been a touchdown, and it was solely on wide receiver Antonio Callaway). Taking out plays that negated by penalty, Mayfield dropped back to pass 26 times, and 14 of those he was facing some type of pressure. When under duress, Mayfield put up a 30.0 passing grade, 0.0 passer rating and completed 1-of-10 passes.
Nearly 50% of Mayfield’s pressured dropbacks in 2019 have ended with him outside of the pocket (highest in NFL). His adjusted completion percentage on those passes is over 20% lower than any other quarterback in the league, and he is averaging just 1.2 yards per attempt. Last night, Mayfield had six dropbacks under pressure and outside the pocket, with one leading to a sack and the other five leading to incomplete passes. In other words, his offensive line is giving up a good amount of pressure and Baker is trying to overcompensate for it.
Cleveland’s offensive line is a liability As a whole, the Browns’ offensive line gave up a horrendous 50% pressure rate and recorded a poor 52.2 pass-block grade – both of which rank among the bottom-six in a single-game by a Browns offensive line in the PFF era. The only person that can walk away and say they did a decent job was center J.C. Tretter, as he had a 77.5 pass-block grade and allowed one pressure. On the other hand, the rest of the line had little to no pass-block success.
Left guard Joel Bitonio (62.7 pass-block grade), left tackle Greg Robinson (48.2 pass-block grade), right tackle Chris Hubbard (47.2 pass-block grade) and right guard Eric Kush (48.5 pass-block grade) all each recorded a double-digit pressure rate by themselves. They were getting sliced and diced on the edge and in the interior. With Baker being as bad as he has been under pressure and his forcing of some throws under duress, this offensive line needs to clean up their act if the Browns want to be the Super Bowl-caliber team the public was making them out to be.
Richard Sherman as the bastion of football traditionalism, etiquette, and sportsmanship. Gimme a break. Enough of that. i will stick up for my QB on that nonsense.
I do not understand debates about the relative failures of the QB and HC last night. Team game. They need each other to succeed. They certainly did not help each other out last night. poor performance on both of them.
Just watched the game. Man, that was really bad, a rough game to watch. Simply put, SF did whatever they wanted to and were a much better team overall.
I agree with the posters and the announcer who said Baker stares down his receiver(s). I noticed that in the last game too.
Last nights loss was a team effort..from very first offensive play the 49ers ran...a simple off tackle dive play.
I understand that some of our younger fans have to find someone to blame...but that performance sucked all the way around...offense, defense and special teams.
What was it that Dorsey said before the season started...?
Quote:
Quote: Dorsey knows the schedule is demanding, especially the first eight games. He also knows he’s added a lot of new players and coaches.
It takes some time for it to blend together.“I ask the fans to exercise a degree of patience,” he said. “We are building this thing to last 10 years, not just have one good year.”
Oh how quickly some fans and media types forget...you were told what to expect.
Going live to Richard Sherman.....and a few posters on here:
Not reall... ok, yeah.
Look, I feel pretty dumb about taking Richard Sherman at face value... that's on me, but the reason it was believable is because he accused Baker of acting like a tool. Just because this time turned out to be false, doesn't erase the times before this.
I'm a Baker fan. I think Baker can make it given time, guidance, and some handholding/babying via easier playcalling for the near future. I think he will develop into a true franchise QB, and one that has the talent and attitude to bring this team up. Part of that will involve maturing into a pro, and acting as such.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
I think what we're seeing is somewhere in between what Dorsey is saying there, and what some of the more extreme posters are saying on here.
I, for one, wasn't thinking this team would hit the ground running. But if you watch the game, it's also not as rosy as that Dorsey quote would lead you to believe. This team has regressed from last year, and has no identity (as long as you don't consider overhyped or 'all bark and no bite' an identity).
While time and patience ARE needed for this team, those 2 are not going to do it alone. Kitchens and Baker need to pull their heads out of their butt, and Kitchens needs to keep getting back to what worked last year, and build off of that.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
It’s become more apparent to me just how rarely Mayfield completes it to anybody other than his primary read ... we HAVE to give him check downs and swing passes and outlets. Just go: first read? No... check down. It’s not that hard to add honestly ... and it’ll avoid negative plays and it’ll get him in rhythm
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
