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Damn. The hits just keep on coming.

Agreed. Between the way we've played and the injuries we're not close to being the team some expected and we have a tough 5 games ahead of us. 2-5 or even 1-6 is a real possibility. Reality is coming at us hard!

I had to double check the new IR rule. Teams no longer have to designate a player for return. So each player placed on IR is available to come back 6 weeks for practice and 8 weeks for a game. Teams can only bring back 2 players that have been placed on IR.
https://twitter.com/chadp71/status/1175431611447500800

Harvey is good against the run IIRC, but struggled to cover

I half-heartedly wonder if the FO saw how we were playing and have enacted another year of "tanking mode".

Tank for Tackles activated

A lot of battered Brown fan syndrome in here.

Have some faith. Tomorrow's game is going to be competitive and the Browns are going to win.

Then we can all start talking about how many we can get in a row.

Love the optimism. Hope you're right. I would love being wrong.

J/c

It’s unfortunate because I heard a Rams beat writer say it’s the healthiest they’ve been in a long time

A lot also depends on how well we can control their run game ... it sets up a lot of their success down the field

What a novel concept!

What do we know about Kirkseys injury? Do you think it was his last game as a Brown?

If I were a betting man, I would bet that Kirksey is done for this year, and will be elsewhere next year. So yes, I think he has played his last game as a Brown.

In his Monday press conference, Freddie was asked if he think that they need to bring in somebody to fill a lead blocker role. You could tell that Freddie was in agreement but was trying not to give a direct answer, probably because he is not in charge of personnel and doesn't want to create an issue.

I hope that they make a move to bring in someone to fill and H-back or fullback role. I just do not see how anyone can think that having all of these backup TEs is better than having a guy like Orson Charles that can be a lead blocker but also fill in at TE when needed.

I had that exact same thought when I read FK's comments on the matter.

doesn't look like it's gonna be any easier this week in Baltimore, albeit, Randell will be back at Safety. Njoku and Kirdsey possibly need surgery, at least Njoku for his wrist, but Browns Daily did say both could be placed on IR, that would mean 8 games without both and likely bad news for Drew Forbes since a team can only bring back two players from IR and I believe it's OL we need the most help with.

Still, I think this team has heart and talent and they can pull out a win, even with the odds against them.

I agree that this makes more sense to me. We are throwing by default and BM helps us do that poorly. Run until you throw then. Get better at something. This underachieving may be explainable, but it is unacceptable to me.

I think Forbes and Njoku will be the (2) guys to come back from IR. I predict Forbes will be starting at RT by week 10...maybe even week 8 when he's eligible.

Njoku comes back immediately upon being eligible.

I also expect Teller to overtake Kush in short order.

Kirksey is done as a Brown. Not nearly enough production for the $$$. Mack is already better and Harvey was coming on strong at the end of the PS...and both those guys can play STs.

I hope Forbes can come back and become a consistent starter, I'm rooting for this kid, he's got my last name, so we could be related, I don't know. lmao

I don't know if I agree about Kirksey, they really seem to like his game play in the past few seasons and it seems like he has gotten better but I suppose it's not impossible, if they feel that other talents are as productive or even better, then it could be curtains for Kirksey, is it his contract year? If not, I don't think he goesanywhere. jmo

I'm hoping Forbes does well when he comes back too.

As far as Kirksey, I hope we keep him. I'd personally rather move on from Schobert before we do Kirksey.

Schoebert had been more valuable then kirksey.

And I like kirksey, too. A solid player and seems to be a good person.

But he's hurt a lot, and his contract, IIRC, works against him being a Brown in 2020.

With Callaway set to return today, a look at the roster leaves me thinking that a WR has to be cut to make room. Hodge or Taylor...maybe Ratley after his play yesterday. (Probably not.)

Could be someone heads to IR? Harvey may have serious damage to his shoulder. Hope not...L like the kid.

Could be R Jackson (CB) gets cut again if Ward/Williams are good-to-go.

Longer-term

I think these guys are at the bottom of the 53 right now - not in order:

Jackson (CB)
Jefferson (LB)
Hodge (WR)
D Johnson (RB)
P Brown (TE)
Corbett (C)
Lamm (T)

I think Njoku and Forbes return from IR.

It's a pretty good bottom 7 IMO...but I'd think those guys are on the bubble if something better crops up or gets healthy.

Looks like Hodge is out then

I’d say Hodge is cut or Harvey goes to the IR.

Cardinals cut safety D.J. Swearinger after four games

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001...fter-four-games

Would he be worth a look to replace a bottom roster guy at vet minimum?

No. We already have a full secondary.

I learned today that we get a one week roster exemption for Callaway - customary now...apparently.

Sounds like he belongs on the line ... we are Badet blocking

Not sure if this was discussed but in all of the discussion on roster moves from the off-season, it appears we didn't get the better end of the Zeitler for Vernon deal... Zeitler is one of the highest rated pass blocking OGs in the NFL, Vernon has 11 tackles and 1 sack...

Let me pick one and I think I would take that one back.. convince me I'm wrong.

Let's wait and see what that 5th round pick becomes before we pass judgement on this ...

Vernon has underwhelmed for sure. In fact, I’d go as far to say maybe we were better off doing this:

- Keeping Peppers
- Keeping Zeitler
- Keeping Ogbah
- Keeping the 1st round pick and selecting an OT

Hindsight 20/20 is fun. But it was pretty clear to many of us that more needed to happen on the OL. I was very hopeful after the Zeitlin/Vernon trade that others were in the works to address OL but not much. I don't think a decent OL would solve all our problems or would have won last night's game but it's clear to me it's our biggest problem aside from very green coaching & lack of mature leadership.

I live in NJ just outside of NYC, drowning in Giants fans (in-laws) and they're loving Peppers. He's been a revelation so far in the Giants D. It really goes to show that scheme sometimes makes or breaks the player.

The Zeitler move could have been a future money move knowing they have a lot of players to pay.

Uh-oh....Someone's signature is going to get triggered.

Trust me, since 99 it’s changed numerous times

Not yours.

Peppers has a pick 6 and a FF.
Zeitler is Zeitler.
Both Ogbah and Nassib are outperforming Vernon so far and I don't believe play as much.
Jamie Collins has 47 tackles, 4.5 sacks, 3 Ints, and a 1 FF as well.

**Ducks**

Where have all the real players gone?

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