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I had no idea his arms were that short.

Cute.

Gibbons are the mammals with longest arms but that wasn't the attribute I was giving props to.

Bunch of easy to like, easy to root for guys on this team. Myles, Bitonio, Ogunjobi, Ward, Landry, Schobert, Chubb. Hard to walk away from any interview/presser not liking these guys.

lair*

I'm usually better than that, lol.

When I need that word again in about 4.9 years from now, I hope I remember to spell it correctly.

Hooked. On. Phonics. Those sound-alike words get you every time. Been their, dun that. *L*

Think about it, put yourself in his shoes. You love the state you live in (in his case texas). You love your hometown team (in his case, the cowboys). Wouldn't you want and try to do everything in your power to play for the Browns if you were a NFL prospect? I would.

These players are fans too, they grew up watching and idolizing teams just like us. I don't hold that against anyone when they say they want to play for their hometown team.

Everything I've seen and read on Myles has shown him to be a gentleman... Albeit, one with an attitude on Sunday.

Same here .. and that’s the balance you want

J/C

Remember Myles draft when people said he had no motor and took plays off and we should draft Trubisky?

Yeah, I do too.

That was like maybe two people.

Nobody's going to own up to that one.

Even more ridiculous when they said the Brown's shouldn't take him because he played the same position as Courtney Brown.

I’ll own up to what i said ...

I said i’d rather draft Mitch but knew taking MG was the right move cause he was such a freak ... i didn’t accuse him of taking plays off or having no motor ... i simply thought Mitch would be much better than he’s playing now and QB was much harder to find .... Sashi/Depo did the right thing ... .... but i was one that i guess u could say was on the Mitch bandwagon ...

https://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.php/topics/1257438/myles-garrett#Post1257438

Yeah, lot more than two people in there questioning him or saying we should have moved down lol.

Knight of Browns post did not age well:

Yeah, but the rest of your joint read like poetry.
'G-Rex- the apex predator.'

Oh man, I remember his posts from that draft...

It is bad form to make fun when none of us are 100% on draft picks... but his posts do stick out. :-p

There were many threads in the NFL Draft forum and the one cfrs posted was not the only one where people were discussing Myles.

A lot of folks were down on him. His effort was being questioned a lot. We are all wrong about draft prospects, but I disagree w/the claim that it was only two people. There were a ton of negative posts about Myles.

Mine, however, aged like fine wine. Nailed it! (Hurts arm patting self on back.)



Still wish we had taken Mahomes, but since we didn't, I'm now glad we have Baker. Glad we didn't STB by not taking Myles.

Myles Garrett is tied for the league lead in sacks. Last I saw he was also among the leaguers leaders in QB pressures. He is very good.



https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff-rankings-top-25-pass-rushers-nfl-week-6

Good information. Do you think this exonerates all the negative commentary some are directing towards Vernon? I say that because one could ask why Myles hasn't been doubled more? Is it because of Vernon's presence? If so, does that justify why Dorsey made the trade? And is it not such a bad trade as many of our fans are claiming it to be?

Garrett has been doubled the ninth most times in the league which is a lot considering he has a very good pass rusher on the other side. I would expect Vernon's production to be a little better given all the double teams Garrett is facing. With that said I don't think Vernon has been bad or even average. He just needs to be better (the Seattle game was his best game of the season).

I don't think the trade is a bad trade. I think it might have been a bit misguided. At the time of the trade there were several good veteran linemen available in free agency for less than we are paying Vernon. If given the two options I'd probably take Zeitler and free agent X over Vernon. Of course we have information now that we didn't have at the time (like Corbett being bad and Clowney being traded for a third round pick).

Either way, I think Myles Garrett is going to be very good no matter who is on the other side. He is a beast and is probably a top ten defensive player in the league. We are lucky to have him.

Cleveland police identify ‘fan’ accused of punching Browns defensive end Myles Garrett in downtown Cleveland

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2019/10/...-cleveland.html

Garrett is so quick off the ball its amazing. Some of his offsides penalties are really just a tribute to his quickness and shouldn't be called. He's simply just that quick.

Yeah, they’re often very close. To the naked eye I’m often saying “please be uncalled” haha

I can take a few while he fine tunes his jump, but fewer flags ought to be where we want to end up.

I really think Myles is a poor hand fighter and once engaged by OL...once they get their hands on him...he's somewhat neutralized. This is why even backup OL seem to do decent against him. If he can't bend around OL, he will engage hoping for a bull rush. If he is not successful in the bull rush he's somewhat done for that play. His best bet is to not let OL get their hands on him.

I also think he needs a go to move.

I think those two things are preventing him from just completely wrecking a game Mack-style. And I think it's what will keep him from DPOY.

Just for some perspective. Myles is tied for the league lead w/9 sacks. Mack has 4.5 sacks this year.

I sometimes think that just like how people say an OL stinks because they give up a couple of sacks w/out considering how long the qb is holding the ball, they also think that their star pass rusher should get multiple sacks each game and is damn near unblockable.

Eh, I go back and forth. Myles Garrett could be unblockable. He has that kind of talent. He just needs to further refine his game, and people are impatient.

I also think we have played against more than our fair share of extremely mobile quarterbacks. It seems like we're constantly in the backfield and chasing just to have the QB turn on the jets and get a pass off.

J/c

Myles is a strange player IMO ... he can look absolutely dominant for stretches, and then be handled by a TE the next play haha. Leading the league in sacks is impressive and warrants praise ... and I think he could even be better

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff-rankings-top-25-pass-rushers-nfl-week-6

#2 according to PFF thru 6 weeks.

Thanks for the link, but I thought Mack actually has 4.5 sacks and Myles has 9????

Pro tip. If you're going to assault someone, do not take a photo with your phone that places you at the scene. No good can come from being that stupid.

I won't even get into the whole concept of trying to sucker punch someone with the physical attributes of Garret. Or the fact that one could easily become the subject of a mob beat down from true fans for messing with him in the first place. I found out early on to never ask a prisoner at booking "What were you thinking?". Because usually they respond "Well, I guess I wasn't really thinking at the time."

I say he's working on his game...in game.
Kinda trying moves out etc. You can only work against your own guys so long. Some things work others, not so much. You MUST have live game action against the best to improve yourself...Just a thought.

probably due to pressures, hits, hurries, and probably double/triple teams, as well as maybe run stops?

it would be interesting to see all those stat comparisons, because while sacks is a huge stat, there's a lot more that comes into play when it comes to DE/edge rushers than just sacks.

I think that's it exactly - sack totals only show a small part of the impact and performance. Although run stopping performance is not included as this was purely "pass rush" grades.

The two responses after I posted this were predictable. I didnt say Myles wasn't good. I didnt express impatience. I was simply stating an observation.

Are we allowed to state observations on this board?

I wasn't disputing the rankings, Swish. I was disputing the numbers they listed. According to the other sites I have visited, Myles has 9 sacks rather than 8 and Mack has 4.5 sacks rather than 5. I was wondering why PFF's sack totals don't match-up w/the other sites?

Only if they are related to Baker's processing speed.

Touche!