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I was thinking the same about Romney on your side.

I won't argue about that one blame away.

Hillary Clinton floats conspiracy that Tulsi Gabbard is being 'groomed' by Russians

Hillary Clinton in a new interview appeared to float a conspiracy theory that the Russians are “grooming” Hawaii congresswoman and Democratic presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard to be a third-party candidate in 2020, while claiming 2016 Green Party nominee Jill Stein is "also a Russian asset."

Clinton – appearing on former Obama aide David Plouffe’s “Campaign HQ” podcast – did not mention Gabbard specifically by name, though Plouffe ended the podcast by noting Clinton’s “belief that Tulsi Gabbard is going to be a third party candidate propped up by Trump and the Russians.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton-tulsi-gabbard-groomed-russia

Wow

Now conspiracy theories suddenly bother you?

It's not so much of a conspiracy theory as Hillary using her platform and influence to discredit the one moderate non-lunatic lefty in the group and sway the primary in the direction she wants it to go, much like she did to Bernie when she was running..

Well, that and planning her "they cheated" excuse in the event that the dems don't win the election...

I'm still not sure how that's anything new. Trump claimed that the only reason he lost the popular vote was due to illegals and dead people voting. He even used government money to investigate it. He has used it yet again on this election cycle as late as at a rally in September 9th of this year. His claim was the Democratic states allowed this to happen and even promoted it. He accused Google of it recently as well.

I'm not saying it isn't disgusting and I've certainly never been a fan of Hillary. But for such a staunch supporter of Trump as 40 is to try and make an issue out of it when the person he supports is famous for it is quite hypocritical.

"non-lunatic lefty"

interesting choice of words.

And that's nowhere close to reality. There at at least three more I can think of who are very moderate candidates. You could easily add Biden, Mayor Pete and Amy Klobuchar to the list.

Gabbard is so centrist most of the time that half of her talking points could be GOPer in origin. Same with Klobuchar.

Best to stick with Pete.

I'm simply pointing out that there is more than one moderate in the field of Democrats.

Your typical 2020 Dem Candidate:

LOL...That's hilarious...Hard left turn ahead "Plugs"

Great cartoon....

Gabbard, in defiant video, links Clinton 'smears' to her previous Sanders endorsement

Speaking directly to the camera in a video message posted on social media on Sunday, 2020 presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard suggested that Hillary Clinton recently "smeared" her as a "Russian asset" as payback for Gabbard's defiance of the party establishment in 2016.

"If they can falsely portray me as a traitor, then they can do it to anyone -- and in fact, that's exactly the message they want to get across to you," Gabbard, a Democrat, said in the video.


"If you stand up to Hillary and the party power brokers -- if you stand up to the rich and powerful elite and the war machine, they will destroy you and discredit your message. But, here is the truth: They will not intimidate us. They will not silence us."

The post ratcheted up an already escalating feud that has rocked the presidential primary. Several candidates, including Beto O'Rourke, Andrew Yang and Marianne Williamson, have criticized Clinton's unfounded suggestion that Russians have been "grooming" Gabbard to be a third-party spoiler in the race.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tulsi-gabbard-hillary-clinton-smears-bernie-sanders-endorsement

SHAME!

jc

Andrew Yang

If they want a third party spoiler all they have to do is have a centrist republican run. All the moderate center dems would flock to them when Liz or Bernie wins the nomination.

A great description of Hilary and the Democrat party by Tulsi:


“Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton,” Gabbard tweeted. “You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain.”

Tulsi knows.

Just like we did in 2016.

I think Hillary wants to be dragged against her wishes into running again. LOL. She would kill for another chance at being President.

Tulsi is Hot...teeheeheehee

j/c

It's so nice to see some of you Right wingers supporting a Democrat and trying to make a point that someone who is no longer even an elected official, Hillary, actually means something.

Hillary lives in all of your heads rent free and it's hilarious.

Perhaps if Joe Biden wins the nomination he will name his son as his Vice President.

Wouldn't be the first time old Joe got his son a job he wasn't qualified for.

Why not? Trump has his unqualified daughter and son in law in The White House.

Well, there just went one of the more sane candidates.

He didn't stand a chance. At least not this time.

That's a real leg slapper 40! You must have spent hours thinking that one up...

No he didn't stand a chance. That's part of the problem.

I know you are stuck in the center left with Biden, but you need to accept that both parties have moved away from center. You are so used to the GOPers moving right and dragging the dems with them that you can't see the need for a political correction of true center.

I see myself as someone who stands on the principals I see as best for my country. I believe you do the same. I don't allow trends in politics to change who I am. I don't allow the flavor of the month club to change me.

As an American, I think we should all stand behind the principals we believe in. I don't begrudge you your beliefs but don't try and convince me that politics should be some one way giveaway program.

What I said was in NO WAY derogatory toward you. What I said is the center has moved slowly right for the last 40 years. Now with the Trump alt-right pull on the GOP to the far far far far right, instead of go-along-to-get-along dems trying to be moderate, we need to swing the pendulum the other way to move the center back to a true center.

The country is more liberal than Clinton Dems now, not as far left as Bernie but somewhere more like Pete. Pete is actually a good center candidate because he's more liberal than the corporatist dems but not considered far left at all. A Clinton moderate dem is just an 80-90's republican.

Your innuendo sure isn't positive. Sometimes I wonder if you even read your own posts?

" stuck in the center left with Biden, you can't see the need for a political correction of true center, go-along-to-get-along dems trying to be moderate."

Those are accusations that I should change my beliefs because of some movement within a political party. That I'm somehow "stuck". That "I can't see". That somehow my views are "go-along-to-get-along".

Nah, nothing about that sounds derogatory.

I don't place my values or views on any party. I don't set my views on "trying to get along". And I can see just fine thank you.

I see both parties going to far extremes. None of which I'm a fan of. You can stop putting labels and passive aggressive twists on that any time now.

You need to realize you are talking to an extremist. Once you recognize that, you can understand.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/24/politics/democratic-party-left-liberal-q-poll/index.html

Happy Birthday Arch.

I don't know Bro? I think you guys listen to the Liberal Media and people like Pelosi, Schiff,AOC. Are you mad at Trump because he wants people to come into the country legally? Got millions of people off Welfare and Food Stamps.Trump doesn't like Kaep. I don't either. Swish and OCD can tell me all day that Kaep didn't insult America and the Vets but most people know thats BS. I'm a White guy and I don't know anybody that would a problem with your Daughter