unless McCray is a clear upgrade i don't see this being positive.. has a sense of desperation from FK and FO that they are scrambling to make up for the idiotic move of not addressing the Oline in offseason and actually making it weaker. McCray doesn't have a stellar resume...his resume is borderline practice squad. Only thing that he has going for him is Campen's blocking scheme
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
I don't know why Dorsey would tell him. This news should come from the HC.
I'm going to hang my hopes on Dorsey has landed a trade.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Browns head coach Freddie Kitchens said this week that he wasn’t ready to talk about any potential changes to the starting offensive line and suggested everyone would have to wait and see how they line up against the Patriots on Sunday.
One of his offensive lineman appears to have let the cat out of the bag, however.
Greg Robinson told reporters on Friday that he has been benched as the team’s starting left tackle. Robinson took over the job right around this time last year when the Browns made changes in the wake of firing head coach Hue Jackson and offensive coordinator Todd Haley.
Robinson did not say who will be taking his spot in the lineup. Justin McCray was getting work at left tackle this week and seems the likeliest choice to be in the lineup against New England.
Am I perfect? No Am I trying to be a better person? Also no
I don't know why Dorsey would tell him. This news should come from the HC.
I'm going to hang my hopes on Dorsey has landed a trade.
Yes, I'm replying to and quoting my own post.
Even if Dorsey closes a trade in the next 5 minutes, that tackle probably wouldn't be playing in our Sunday afternoon game? Right?
So our "magic solution" for our "LT problem" was actually on our roster the whole time? Wow...
(heavy sarcasm)
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Dorsey didn't announce it, Robinson did. Its also not a leak, he blatantly went to the media to announce it. No leak, he straight up peed in the face of the team.
Dorsey is the one who told Robinson. Why would a GM do that?
IDK, but from what I read and how I read it was that robinson came out, and said Dorsey told him he was benched.
I don't care about Dorsey telling Robinson at all. Maybe they have a good relationship, maybe this is the arrangement within the team when something like this happens. We just don’t have enough information.
What I don’t like is Greg Robinson telling the media about the move as soon as he finds out. I think it is stupid and inconsequential that Kitchens didn’t want to announce the starting linemen until Sunday but he’s the head coach. He gets to decide the rules. Robinson basically gave him a middle finger.
Perhaps Robinson may be going to another team in a trade of players?
I dunno anymore.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Perhaps Robinson may be going to another team in a trade of players?
I dunno anymore.
If Robinson doesn't get traded, it will be pretty clear (to me) that Dorsey doesn't like the way his players are being treated by Freddie and Dorsey told Robinson.
Either that... or... worse... Freddie is too much of a wimp to tell another man to his face that Freddie benched him. (I really hope this is not the case)
Dorsey and Freddie are working together to find the best solutions for team. This idea that Dorsey is upset with the way Fred is treating "his players" is nothing more than something you manufactured in your head.
Players get told things in house that are not being told to the general public all the time.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Freddie isn't a wimp either ..... just to clarify. Look at last year when he, on occasion, had to remove a layer or 3 off Baker's head on the sidelines. If he'd do that when he was hoping for the job, I doubt that he would back off once he got the job.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
One more ..... I would guess, and this is only a guess ..... but I would guess that Robinson is unhappy about being benched, and is playing the game to try and get traded/released, so he can try to find another starting job elsewhere.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
a lot of assumptions on those pile ons too.... slow your roll fella, you don't know jack.
1. How in the heck does someone get Freddie is treating players badly based off of this?!?!? What the heck kind of special juice are you drinking? Please explain how you have come to that conclusion?
2.How the heck does this mean Dorsey is sick of Freddie? lol.
CFRS - I don't mind kitchens playing dumb about whos playing. A lot of coaches do things like that. Its makes the pats prepare for multiple people at LT, it could alter their gameplan, or at the very least - make them take SOME focus on two guys instead of one to study. Im perfectly ok with that. BB is the king at things like that.
I just hope Freddie didn't find out from Robinson ... *L* ...
Dang ... not sure why KJ would tell him ...
I know KJ is a pro but damm I’m getting that “factory of sadness” feeling around this team ... this entire debacle was handled pee poorly from the start ... we should have found out Sunday afternoon as NOTHING that has gone on since this started last week should have made it into the public ...
After this week we best string some W’s together or C-towns gonna implode ..
I don't know why JD told him but it's rather safe to assume that maybe Robinson asked.
Practice is over, Kitchens informs Dorsey of decision, Robinson sees them talking, coach goes to talk to media, Robinson asks Dorsey, Dorsey doesn't know this was still a secret or forgets to tell Robinson to zip his lip.
Not enough conspiracy for a good "sky is falling" conversation on Dawgtalkers, but entirely possible.
I don't know why JD told him but it's rather safe to assume that maybe Robinson asked.
Practice is over, Kitchens informs Dorsey of decision, Robinson sees them talking, coach goes to talk to media, Robinson asks Dorsey, Dorsey doesn't know this was still a secret or forgets to tell Robinson to zip his lip.
Not enough conspiracy for a good "sky is falling" conversation on Dawgtalkers, but entirely possible.
Replaced with: Dorsey replies, that is coaches' decision and if he is ready to make it after his PC, I'm guessing you'll be the first person to know.
That's how I would handle it.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
CFRS - I don't mind kitchens playing dumb about whos playing. A lot of coaches do things like that. Its makes the pats prepare for multiple people at LT, it could alter their gameplan, or at the very least - make them take SOME focus on two guys instead of one to study. Im perfectly ok with that. BB is the king at things like that.
That makes sense if you're talking about 2 different starting QBs, or if a heavily-used RB is good to go or not.
It doesn't make sense if you're talking about starting a mediocre LT, or his backup (that couldn't beat him out during TC). There's no advantage to be had there.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
I don't know why JD told him but it's rather safe to assume that maybe Robinson asked.
Practice is over, Kitchens informs Dorsey of decision, Robinson sees them talking, coach goes to talk to media, Robinson asks Dorsey, Dorsey doesn't know this was still a secret or forgets to tell Robinson to zip his lip.
Not enough conspiracy for a good "sky is falling" conversation on Dawgtalkers, but entirely possible.
Replaced with: Dorsey replies, that is coaches' decision and if he is ready to make it after his PC, I'm guessing you'll be the first person to know.
That's how I would handle it.
Given the limited info we have, I would tend to agree. Definitely not enough info to conclude that Dorsey doesn't respect Kitchens, or Kitchens is a wimp, or any of the five other conspiracy theories though.
CFRS - I don't mind kitchens playing dumb about whos playing. A lot of coaches do things like that. Its makes the pats prepare for multiple people at LT, it could alter their gameplan, or at the very least - make them take SOME focus on two guys instead of one to study. Im perfectly ok with that. BB is the king at things like that.
That makes sense if you're talking about 2 different starting QBs, or if a heavily-used RB is good to go or not.
It doesn't make sense if you're talking about starting a mediocre LT, or his backup (that couldn't beat him out during TC). There's no advantage to be had there.
McCray was acquired at the roster cut-down. While he was not here for camp, our OL coach is very familiar with him. The bye is an appropriate time to make such a change.
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Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
CFRS - I don't mind kitchens playing dumb about whos playing. A lot of coaches do things like that. Its makes the pats prepare for multiple people at LT, it could alter their gameplan, or at the very least - make them take SOME focus on two guys instead of one to study. Im perfectly ok with that. BB is the king at things like that.
That makes sense if you're talking about 2 different starting QBs, or if a heavily-used RB is good to go or not.
It doesn't make sense if you're talking about starting a mediocre LT, or his backup (that couldn't beat him out during TC). There's no advantage to be had there.
Says you. I think theres always an advantage to be had when it comes to information. Any little piece of information (or lack thereof in this case) helps. Not knowing can effect a gameplan. It may not be as big of deal as a whos playing QB, but you can bet your tootie that BB has studied each player on the line inside and out. Maybe he has spend a few extra hours, or maybe he has to split time now studying two different guys.
The reason BB is BB, is little details he knows and goes over that others do not.
CFRS - I don't mind kitchens playing dumb about whos playing. A lot of coaches do things like that. Its makes the pats prepare for multiple people at LT, it could alter their gameplan, or at the very least - make them take SOME focus on two guys instead of one to study. Im perfectly ok with that. BB is the king at things like that.
That makes sense if you're talking about 2 different starting QBs, or if a heavily-used RB is good to go or not.
It doesn't make sense if you're talking about starting a mediocre LT, or his backup (that couldn't beat him out during TC). There's no advantage to be had there.
It also makes sense that part of this may be an aggravated coach, dealing with a media that has just blown up a Jarvis Landry NON-story, has decided the media will be on a "need to know" basis going forward.
