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The line opened up at -2.5 has moved to -3.

Ummmm...count me in on Buffalo. No way the Browns win this.

That line blows my mind.

This topic title made me think we are playing the Bye again.

How is the over and under? I would take the low end.

Can't see where a win comes from. Lots of rah-rah spin fertilizer, but we really choked on it. Freddy won't change much because he hasn't before now.

Go, Browns.

The Bills haven't played anyone and can't stop the run, the one thing we've done well.

They should absolutely be favored, but we do have a chance.

I had a feeling it’d be close to a pickem game. If this game isn’t a close game or win something is wrong (as if it isn’t already)

It's already wrong. So I'm betting on the Bills. I feel like this is a gift...which rarely happens when you handicap games.

Cynicism is easy, hope is hard. I think we win this game.

Really?!? Wow....

Toss-up. They have a good D, and Allen can be good/bad in an instant.
We are at home, I think we win by 10.

You guys are setting yourselves up for disappointment.

1. The team has nothing left to play for.
2. The defense quit against Denver when they still had something to play for. Why would you think they'd rise up this week? Doesn't make any sense.
3. The Bills have a lot to play for.
4. Their D is solid.
5. Allen seems to make just enough plays to help his defense.
6. Baker just doesn't make many plays.

The Browns aren't turning this around mid week much less mid season.

Might as well make some money.

Hm yeah don't care. Browns win big.

If Gore and Singletary gash us and they shut down Chubb ala Denver, we could be in a world of hurt. A win here could be big for us; a loss and we can start to mail in the points...

Browns are Favored...

Singletary is the big time concern IMO

Gotta buy stamps if you are right. Hope we get 'em big if we win.

The guy is dynamic and likely their biggest threat. Must contain Allen though...

It’s almost a guarantee that Allen has a big day on the ground ... one of our Achilles heels is QBs who scramble for 1st downs and TDs

I find it so maddening that a QB can run for 15 yards, slide feet first, and you can't touch him. If he's running he should be fair play to get hit...

At some point someone will ask if this is a "must win" game. My answer is no, there are no "must win" games. This team is not going anywhere.

from my perspective the Seattle and Denver games were both must win games. Winning both (and we should have) would put us at 4-4. Losing both has ended our year

The fans might believe it's over but luckily the players and team do not.

We're winning every game until we're not.

The season is virtually over for us, but we cannot continue our intermittent incompetent (?) play. Whether we win out or more likely not, we must turn this ship(wreck) around...

Why on earth would we be favored??

We have to win a home game, right?

Im gonna take the browns -2.5, we win this by a TD. Book it danno!

j/c

I'm amazed by some of the responses here. This isn't complicated. Here is what separates NFL teams. Some find a way to win and some find a way to lose.

The Bills have been finding ways to win. We've been finding ways to lose. Those thinking we'll win this game somehow believe all that will change in the span of one week.

Agreed. Do you know what I was thinking? How many years we've discussed our Browns on this forum and nothing really has changed. Coaches making bad decisions, players taking dumb penalties, dropped passes, poor clock management, poor run defense and still losing much more than winning. Will it ever change?

I feel ... strongly .... that the Browns will win this game.

Last game I felt strongly we would win was Baltimore .... for whatever it's worth.

I would periodically wonder how it would affect the daily flow of the message board, when we had a competent-looking team on the field each weekend.

Oh well...

I think we should win this game. They have no more talent than we do. We selected Baker before Allen. Our defense is as highly paid/touted/drafted. Our playmakers are considered better.

Problem is, we aren’t winners.

This is simply not true.

The team gave up last week. The team doesn't believe in their coaches. The defense doesn't believe in the offense. The offense doesn't believe in their QB.

The writing was on the wall after Tennessee. Another year, another steaming pile of crap. Another crap sandwich for this loyal fanbase.

8 more games to go and zero chance to make the playoffs.

Raise your hand if you're having fun.

I'm betting big on Buffalo and will be rooting hard for them to win.

That seems a bit much....

Why? It's the truth.

Is there, by chance, a message from Phil Savage in your Inbox?

You put that far more eloquently than I would have...

You can't root for your opponents to win and claim to be a Browns fan.

Not even Vegas knows what to think about the Browns.

The defensive line has been a complete non-factor, our LBs are meh and the secondary can't tackle. Same story since '99, we cant stop the run and we can stop a screen pass.

OBJ is getting frustrated and it's showing, Freddie flies off-the-cuff and let's his emotions dictate his decisions during the game, Baker is pressing and not seeing the field, the OL is shoddy.

There's a whole host of issues with this team.

Thinking we are going to walk over a 6-2 team is blind optimism.

Until they prove otherwise, I'm taking the Bills +2.5 and more likely on the moneyline.

I still cannot believe we are not even playing meaningful football in November.

We've got Chubb, who (at least going into last week) was/is a top-tier RB.

We've got Garrett, who is near the top in terms of sacks.


I'm sure those two things allow people to paint a very inaccurate picture of the Browns based on numbers.

j/c...

Here's a fun prop bet...