For the life of me I have no idea how trump appeals to "his Base". He could not be more removed from those people.
For the most part older white men with no college. People who are workers.
He has never been associated with the working class. He views people by how much money they have first and foremost. Poor people to him are servants. Inferior. Low intelligence.
It is so obvious. The Saudi's ruling class. Putin and his strongmen. Kim the dictator. Leaders and followers.
What has he done for the working class besides promises. Is coal coming back? His biggest appeal. Immigrants are people to be feared. They are coming here to take your jobs. Broad brush strokes to create animosity. "We will have a new health care program that will accept pre-conditions and be more affordable within a 100 days of my presidency."
When I listen to trump cult it is almost like they would be willing students for trump university.
A promise of wealth from a cardboard cut-out.
It is crazy to me. This guy has been a fraud his whole life. He was given wealth from his father starting when he was like 10. He has not done a thing that relates to working people.
Sometimes it's worth the price. There have been times I have said things I knew would send me to "banned camp". But I felt it was worth it, needed to be said and I never regretted it.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
people like trump wouldnt be caught dead in coal country, yet somehow they look to him as their savior.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I hate politics. That is why I normally stay away from political discussion.
I stay informed. I read mostly. Do not like "opinion based political tv.
What really gets to me is the lies and hypocrisy.
And it is rampant in Washington. Both parties. It is never ending.
The only reason I will break code and discuss is because I see trump as a real threat to the US. He is incapable of telling the truth. In fact truth or lies makes no difference to him.
He is totally unfit for the office. In every way possible. He is a badge of shame for this country. And he has done real and verifiable damage.
The GOP knows it. When they look in mirror; they know. But it will not stop them from continuing to lie.
trump should be run out of office. He has done more than enough to be impeached.
Watch the Nixon and Watergate proceedings. Listen to the support he got from the GOP right to the very end.
Sound so familiar to today.
I am way more happy staying away from politics because it feels useless.
When I was born, a Republican sat in the Oval Office. Next, was a Dem regime. Next, an R again. Followed by another R Next, a D Next, two R's D R D
...and with none of them did I feel as though this country was in peril. Until this one.
You refer to him as a "badge of shame." That is kind. I refer to him as a stain. A stain on our history. I have never felt this way about any other politician in any office. I feel this way, and will remain unapologetic about it until the day they plant me 6 feet under.
my worry with trump is the unknown damage he caused, something we wont fully know until after he's gone.
while he most certainly isnt the cause of the divide, he definitely stuck both hands in the tear and ripped it apart as wide as he possibly could.
obviously i havent been alive all that long, but in my short years of existence, from Clinton, to bush, to obama, and now trump, i have never seen a president like trump make it PAINFULLY clear he only views himself as the president of the republican part and his base, NOT the president of the entire country.
he acts like it, he speaks like it, and his actions say as much. and its really sad.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I will be able to go to my grave knowing that I bear no responsibility for this shameful chapter whatsoever. I take pride (if not comfort) in knowing that.
I am 72 years old. I have seen many things in my life. The Civil rights struggles. The assassinations of the Kennedy's, Dr. King and Malcom X. I was there at Kent State. Vietnam was part of my history and all that has past since.
I have never been so disappointed in America. It sickens me to see what is going on.
The way the country has been divided. The hate crimes that have risen. The reduction of the middle class. The rise of the mega-rich and powerful.
trump seems to bring out the worst elements in our society. Making it a war along party lines. Instead of compromise and real solutions.
His only concern is his glorification. It makes no difference at whose expense. Look at those he hired and how he has turned on them. "All the best people." Now either resigned. Fired. Or are in jail.
To see every day and not know what freak show is coming next. Wears on a person. Sad.
The divides were never this bad in my lifetime. There have been many times when racial tensions were very high with riots and marches etc. But that was nothing compared to this where families are falling apart over a POTUS.
Back on topic: This thread is anti christian! We shouldn't make fun of how the nut job prays, the crap she believes, or the demons she imagines are all around her. We should ask somebody to get her help.
I just had a friend email me the link to this crazy woman and what she says and how she is tied to Trump. Missed this post on here - was looking where to post the link when I saw this.
Only one question: Where are the Trump supporters to try and justify this?
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
Rev Wright and Al Sharpton were really great advisors for whats his name, were just ducky huh fellas.
I should point out that you are doing what all TRUMPIANS do when backed into a corner.. You go back in time and say, but what about...
You do that because you simply don't have a good reason for Trumps actions. Like I said, I don't know Wright, but sharpton isn't my cup of tea. But that doesn't make up for trump bringing in a person like this.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
The pro-Trump Christian cult’s new tactic: Paint Trump’s critics as being influenced by demons
Last week, evangelical leader Franklin Graham gave an interview that gained quite a bit of attention, mainly for the fact that he reinforced a popular narrative within far-right pro-Trump Christian circles: namely the idea that philosophical and moral opposition to President Trump is not just a matter of political ideology, but a struggle between good and evil in spiritual terms.
“What do you think of what is happening now?” Christian author and radio host Eric Metaxas asked Graham. “I mean, it’s a very bizarre situation to be living in a country where some people seem to exist to undermine the president of the United States. It’s just a bizarre time for most Americans.”
“Well, I believe it’s almost a demonic power that is trying…” Graham said before he was interrupted by Metaxas.
“I would disagree,” Metaxes said. “It’s not almost demonic. You know and I know, at the heart, it’s a spiritual battle.”
“People seem to have devolved to a kind of moralistic Pharisaism,” Metaxes continued. “And they say, ‘How can you support somebody blah, blah, blah,’ and then go on to cite how he’s the least Christian—you know, they go on and on, and I think these people don’t, they don’t even have a biblical view when it comes to that—you know, that if somebody doesn’t hold to our theology, that doesn’t mean they can’t be a great pilot, or a great doctor or dentist. I mean, it’s a bizarre situation that we’re in, that people seem only to have these standards for the president somehow.”
Graham then responded by stumping for Trump’s alleged Christianity.
“I believe that Donald Trump believes—he believes in God. He believes in Jesus Christ. His depth—he doesn’t, you know, he went to churches here in New York; he didn’t get a whole lot of teaching.”
Writing for The Atlantic, Peter Wehner says that Graham and Metaxes aren’t simply making an argument that Trump’s critics are wrong. They’re accusing said critics of being under the influence of demonic forces, “which for a Christian is about as serious an accusation as there is.”
“There is no biblical or theological case to support the claim that critics of Donald Trump are under the spell of Satan,” Wehner writes. “It is invented out of thin air, a shallow, wild, and reckless charge meant to be a conversation stopper.”
Wehner points out a key contradiction in Graham’s logic. In the interview, the preacher and son of the legendary televangelist, Billy Graham, somewhat misleadingly praises the alleged strength of Trump’s economy over former President Obama’s.
“Yet even if the economy were ‘screaming forward’ in the way Graham claims, this problem would still remain: During the second term of Bill Clinton’s presidency, when the economy was in many respects stronger than it is today, Franklin Graham wasn’t defending Clinton’s moral and ethical transgressions based on the economy growing at 4 percent annually, which might translate into more tithing and church-building projects. He didn’t overlook Clinton’s affair with an intern because we had a budget surplus,” he writes.
Wehner then pointed to an op-ed Graham wrote in The Wall Street Journal during the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandal where contends that God “says that what one does in private does matter.”
“If he will lie to or mislead his wife and daughter, those with whom he is most intimate, what will prevent him from doing the same to the American public?” Graham wrote, referring to the marital transgressions of Bill Clinton.
Now in the age of Trump, Wehner says Graham’s “spiritual vigor seems to have waned a bit.”
“Graham and Metaxas appear to believe that they, along with Donald Trump, are part of a holy crusade to rid the world of evil, wickedness, and demonic powers. What they are saying in their interview is that you either stand with them, or you stand with the forces of Satan.”
Smh bro this god sent trump nonsense is ridiculous by conservatives. Really sounding more and more cultish by the day.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Thought the Bible had something in there about false idols or something like that.
Eh who cares, Christians aren’t capable of sticking to their values anyway. They’re more like suggestions.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
A crooked cop who hides behind his badge to commit crimes is worse than a regular criminal.
Like a priest pedophile uses his cross to intimidate his victims.
To have a person as sick as Rick Perry say trump is the "chosen one" is disturbing. The hypocrisy of evangelicals is beyond comparison. This scumbag cheated on his pregnant wife. Grouped women backstage at beauty contests. Endless lies, bigotry and corruption. He could not tell the truth if it were tattooed on his forehead and he was standing in front of a mirror.
Former Reagan advisor: ‘Trump-supporting evangelicals discredit Christianity more than atheists’
Speaking to CNN this Saturday, former advisor to President Ronald Reagan and “lifelong evangelical” Peter Wehner slammed evangelical supporters of President Trump, saying that they see him as a champion of their cause despite his moral failings — many of which are in direct contrast to the principles evangelicals claim to uphold.
“The bottom line is that [Trump] will fight for them,” Wehner said. “Not that he himself is of Christian faith. Not even he himself is a manifestation of Christian virtues, but they feel like they’re involved in an existential struggle against a malicious enemy that they consider to be the American Left. And Trump will try and vanquish that enemy.”
According to Wehner, evangelicals think Trump is bringing “a gun to a cultural knife fight,” and that he “hates the same people that they hate. And that he’ll employ means that’ll get it done.”
Although Wehner has been a fixture in past GOP administrations, he’s been a vocal Trump critic.
“I think it’s been tremendously discrediting to the Christian faith,” Wehner continued. “I think it’s shown to a watching world a tremendous amount of hypocrisy.”
“After all, this ‘character counts’ and ‘personal integrity’ and political leadership was central to what a lot of evangelicals argued when Bill Clinton was president,” he added. “And now that it’s Donald Trump, they’ve decided to push it aside, which means for them, that reality is a means to an end, not an end. It was something to be used as a political weapon.”
“I think a lot of these white evangelical leaders are doing more to hurt Christianity than the so-called New Atheists ever could,” he concluded.