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Nothing justifies hitting a guy in the head with a helmet... mason deserves to be suspended a couple games but Garrett should not have hit him with the helmet...

I wish he would have dropped the helmet or thrown it rather than hitting mason with it... bad look...

Hopefully his suspension will be lowered but doubt NFL will do it...

The thing I'm hoping happens with the appeal is to remove the indefinite part of the suspension. The more I think about it, the more I understand the longer length of the suspension. The thing I can't understand is doing this whole dance with goodell at some point in the future.

Just give him a bunch of games, and let's be done with it.

Myles bears the responsibility for swinging the helmet, but this was Rudolph's fault. He should be suspended as well.

Right. If Rudolph would have held his tantrum for 15 seconds, none of this happens. Fines, suspensions. None of it. Not saying the helmet swing is justified, it’s not.

And Pitts still throwing the ball?

I wish Myles would have dropped the helmet and throat punched the weasel.

Rudolph has a very punchable face.

I want our entire team to punish him.

If he scrambles from a pass rush and runs out of bounds on CLE's sideline, I want someone to clothesline his ass.

I'm fired up in a way I haven't been in YEARS. I hope our team feels the same way.

This punk got pwned by Myles the entire day, and took his shots out of frustration. I want him to feel frustrated- and totally helpless in 2 weeks.

#nowhere2run
#nowhere2hide

You've never been more wrong.

(Actually and honestly, I don't know if you've ever been this wrong before, but you're definitely wrong here)

Too obvious. When you get in a pile, pinch his leg or rip hair out. Get him kicking to draw the flag. Do it every chance possible.

Hope everybody tells him it his day to be a target. Not necessarily dirty, but pound him and beat him up. Punk him all day long. Time to return some favors.

Best case scenario for Pittsburgh would be they struggle and lose to the Bengals, so they bench Rudolph for the Browns game. We face Hodges.

We would beat Rudolph. We have a leg up on him mentally.

Indeed. Screams frat boy.

Like I said before, break a thumb in a scrum.
Step on his neck after a sack.
Barely-controlled barbarism.

He needs this lesson.
Elves should be his teachers.

Send him home as a eunuch.

In the pile, go for the junk, as Rudolph did. And Ben before him.

Do they teach that in Pitts?

Why? I want him healthy, in the game, and still throwing completion after completion to our defense, like he did in the last game.

I am not averse to getting revenge and punking them ....

1. Biggest way to punk them is to simply physically dominate them all game and win. By multiple TDs

2. If anyone is going to punch MR in the balls - or otherwise illegally hurt them ... for heaven's sake don't get caught. Not by the refs and not on a slow mo replay camera somewhere.

Sure it sucks that we see Pit and other teams get preferential treatment (Josh Gordon is perhaps the single most blatant proof you'll ever need) .... but at the end of the day the best way to shut Pittsburgh up and make a point it to figuratively punch them in the face - legally - and dominate them.

Friday was a horrible day to be on vacation.. my wife would talk to me for 10 minutes and I would be totally thinking about my anger over this incident..

Garrett should get 4-5 games
Pouncey 1-2
Rudolph 1
Ogunjobi a fine.

It kills me that after watching it, they suspended Ogi for bumping Rudolph to the ground with his shoulder but not Rudolph who started it, kicked a guy in the nuts, then restarted it...

I also bet (I even think) the NFL should clear up this rule for next season..

If the video shows you trying to rip a guys helmet - 1 game
If you get the helmet off - 2 games
If you swing it - 6 games

Just make it automatic for first offenses then it can get more severe after that. If the NFL wants to show they are serious about safety and not just about protecting their image, which is what we saw with these immediate suspensions, they will codify the rule.

I agree with you on making clear penalties for such a thing moving forward.

Yet I also think that this is one of those things you never dreamed you would need in the first place.

Lol...NFL and CBS concerned about what might happen in the Browns vs Steelers game 2.0. Moved from the nationally televised game at the 4:25pm slot to 1pm.

To be fair though, it is addressed in the NFL rule book. So they most def thought about it. It also happened with a player in 2013. Smith from the Texans hit Incognito with his helmet.

Link

Smith received 1 Regular Season game. So a precedent has already been set by the NFL.

So you mean it happened before a billion dollar lawsuit settlement over brain trauma? Yes, you're right, it did.

That lawsuit and the PR campaign over player safety has changed everything since then. And everyone in the game and paying attention to what went on knows that.

I think the Oakland vs Kansas City game is simply what the NFL sees as a better match up for the late game. I mean I guess people can come up with their own conspiracies though.

Oh I can absolutely believe that both can be true.. the KC game is a good matchup but I don't doubt for a second that the NFL is trying to bury the Browns vs Steelers game out of fear for what might happen.

I hate 4 o'clock games so I'm happy about it.

I didn't see it change the rulebook.

Which is why I'm fine with a solid 4 game suspension and a fine.. things are more serious than a 1 game suspension...

But that's why I also said they should update the rule book, or not even the rule book, this is something that should be worked into the CBA. All the rule book needs to say is 15 yards and ejection.

If this is addressed somewhere else delete it ref
Myles Garrett hearing is set for Wednesday

That would be sweet indeed. But I want to add some insult to the injury of losing. WE need to be plasma-intense. Cut it loose!

Like i said ... i agreed with everything u said except that ... and i agree with that .. i would have just added ... he charged him to retrieve his helmet ....

He did charge him but it wasn’t to attack him ... u could tell he rushed up off balance and was lunging for his helmet ...

Diam,

Look at the roid rage on Rudolph's face and tell me he was just interested in getting back his helmet...c'mon man! As if he'd have to play the next snap without his helmet.

That's like saying MG ripped off his helmet simply in an effort to teach the punk what helmet extraction really looks like...and that MG was just doing him a favor.

He charged him on Garretts left side, the helmet was in his right hand. He made no move to get back his helmet, short of grabbing Garrett’s junk. Then Myles tried to give it back to him.

I wonder why?...

I think they think less alcohol will be consumed by 1 pm.

Good thing for Rudolph that this game is in Pittsburgh. I would have bribed the bus driver to play a video of bottle-gate on the ride here followed by a clip on how the first 5000 lucky Browns fans will get a full size Mason Rudolph helmet.

Does that look like a guy who just wants his helmet back?