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And this is WAY worse than what Garrett did. I agree

Garrett didn't take the helmet off in order to use it as a weapon. I think this is a reasonable assumption. He just didn't have time to think as he was being pushed and charged at. This is a little shaky. He had plenty of time to drop the helmet. He just swung his hand not thinking. This I don't believe is reasonable and completely guessing and or wishful thinking. I am pretty sure he knew he had the helmet in his hand when he swung. The whole thing took place in a few seconds. Anyone who's ever been in a fight knows you don't have time to think about stuff like opening your hand. True, except when in a fight, you know if you have a "weapon" in your hand and more than likely you will use it.

That's what makes me so mad. Everyone acting like Garrett did a monstrous pre-planned thing. He was being attacked and swung lightly He didn't swing lightly. David De Castro in his way merely made his swing awkward and less forceful...had he not been there...this could have been far uglier. on his back foot as he was moving away responding to violence coming at him. He definitely was responding instinctively to an attack.

Makes me sick. Honestly if Garrett just took it off and bashed him while he was on the ground, I'd be better with it, cuz I'd just say "wow, what a monster, he should be cut." but it wasn't like that AT ALL. No it isn't like it has been portrayed at all, but it was still pretty bad.

But ofc since he plays for the Browns they need to find a way to screw us the rest of the season.

Should be 4 game suspension max. I agree

Yes, because it was televised nationally; nobody had to spend weeks digging to find video of it by which time most people had stopped caring.

The most important thing: Browns Win. Won by a Myles

When the video leaked... long after it actually happened.

This was real-time, live, in your living room with announcers giving commentary as it happened.

I'm just curious when employers started punishing their employees the same way when they're not at work as they do when they are at work?

Example;

You're caught driving a company vehicle drunk on company time.

You get a DUI on the week end on your own time in your own car.

For the most part, unless you drive for a living, your DUI on the week-end in your own car doesn't really impact your job. Yet driving the company car at work drunk will get you fired. It's not really that complicated.

Its Monday, I am not following the analogy your trying to make or the point your trying to get across. Im a little lost.

Are you saying Ray Rice shouldn't have been punished for beating a women, but Myles should for the helmet thing cause he was on the field and rice wasn't?

No, that's really not what I'm saying. I'm just saying that an incident at work is generally seen as a greater infraction than an incident that isn't at work by your employer.

J/C

Lets do it this way....

Instead of comparing Myles to Rudolph, lets take Myles actions out of it altogether.

Why did OGI get a game for pushing Mason, when Mason got nothing for kicking another player? And Then why did Pouncy get a game for kicking someone, when mason got nothing for kicking someone?

Troy Vincent said Larry's actions were a escalating the situation, not defusing it. I agree with this.

However, in the write up I read he did not discuss Rudolph. Shocker.

Not only that, but Troy Aikmans reaction was as if Clark Griswold really did wake up with his head sewn in the carpet. He acted like it was the worst thing he had ever seen.

Ok, so let's say I can agree that Ogi was escalating it by knocking Rudolph down.. then what was Rudolph doing when he went back after Garrett while DeCastro was moving Myles away from the situation and diffusing it?

I don't see one single way, anybody can convince me that Rudolph doesn't deserve more than Obi when all is said and done.

I realize it's not the same, but I can't help but wonder where the national/social media outrage was when OBJ was getting choke-dragged across the field in the Ravens game.

I mean, hands are deadly weapons and are used by murderers plenty of times to suffocate others by choking. Yet that was pretty much ignored by anyone other than Browns fans, and the Ravens organization just straight up lied about the video evidence.

Again, I realize it's on a different level and I am not excusing what Myles did, but it just was something that popped in my head yesterday.

If Myles had dropped the helmet and decked rudolph with his fists, they both probably would have gotten the same suspension....and rudolph would have been much worse off. You just can't swing a helmet at a bare skull.

Even with a cup on

Players don't wear cups anymore.

Some do, some don't. Apparently those playing the Steelers should.

No.

Him holding on to it, and being rushed by Rudolph, you're naturally gonna swing.

So now we are afraid some one might get hit in the head by a Cup ?

So now we are afraid some one might get hit in the head by a Cup ?

So according to you,

So it's only natural to use a weapon in response to being rushed?